Proper Decorum...

[ToxicAvenger]

just a quick question girls..

when i'm out on a date i follow the usual...open doors (car..etc etc)..pull out her chair for her..remain standing till she sits...stand when she leaves the room...blah..sounds too formal but done properly it just adds..done improperly and you'll look like a dork ( so i dont recommend the guy be this formal if he is unsure of himself )

what i get ackward about is when its time to order drinks..i'm usually at a loss as to whether i should follow tradation and order the wine myself or should i let her..or does she even like wine...blah...



advice?




PS its def a strike against the girl if she orders a blue hawaian instead a good red..personality is reflected in innane mannerisms..i firmly believe this..


o and i'm talking about meaningfull dates  .. i usually end up here   www.oldanglersinn.com

[davidpaul]

I'M A 40 YEAR OLD VIRGIN

advice?

fixed.

[ToxicAvenger]

fixed.

did i mention i grew up in a formal  family    o..i did not...

i didn't wanna bring that up but till the age of 15..i didn't know how to tie my shoelaces(servants did that)...or dress myself(servants again )..nor did i go anywhere without bodyguards following me...hell if it wasn't a kidnapping attempt on my brother and myself(where bro got shot)..i'd still be living like a prince...


did that help your dumbass or now do i come across as showing off?  i mean shit..i really ws a virgin till i ws 21..but then again my mum taught me the romantic value of everything...and sex to this day for me happens to play secnd fiddle to love..


..do you understand..or should i make another indignant retort?

[ToxicAvenger]

Hit the nail on the head there DP.

bitter much  ?   


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=116236.0

n thats just 1 example..

now david paul is trying to be funny..he is cool with me..but you..you keep following me around like nord and jimmy 

what gives mate?

[ToxicAvenger]

That I slipped up in saying that C

man o man yeah that ws last night..and then after that ya wouldn't stop- following me all over the politics board..


slip up..you mean didn't know..lol

btw..this question is for the girls..now unless you know a lot about wine and happen to grow a vagina..scram..seriously .. (you can better yourself at www.winespectator.com ..see i'm helping ya here )


you r destined for 3.2 kids...a 401k and a neat divorce...    you'll prolly happen to get laid more than me along the way though...so take heart.. 

[BuffGoddess]

just a quick question girls..

when i'm out on a date i follow the usual...open doors (car..etc etc)..pull out her chair for her..remain standing till she sits...stand when she leaves the room...blah..sounds too formal but done properly it just adds..done improperly and you'll look like a dork ( so i dont recommend the guy be this formal is he is unsure of himself )

what i get ackward about is when its time to order drinks..i'm usually at a loss as to whether i should follow tradation and order the wine myself or should i let her..or does she even like wine...blah...



advice?




PS its def a strike against the girl if she orders a blue hawaian instead a good red..personality is reflected in innane mannerisms..i firmly believe this..


o and i'm talking about meaningfull dates  .. i usually end up here   www.oldanglersinn.com

I think you should ask her what she would like to have before you get there. I'm a Vodka and diet 7-up girl myself. Never really developed a taste for wine. Ignore those guys that are putting you down. They're just jealous. You're nice, considerate, and definitely have class.

[davidpaul]

bitter much  ?   


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=116236.0

n thats just 1 example..

now david paul is trying to be funny..he is cool with me..but you..you keep following me around like nord and jimmy 

what gives mate?

glad u saw the funny side tox, its all good g.

[ToxicAvenger]

glad u saw the funny side tox, its all good g.

ahhh you r a funny cu nt!


i've made fun of ya before and you know i'm just funnin...if we cant laugh..then life would be really really fuckin short eh...

[davidpaul]

ahhh you r a funny cu nt!


i've made fun of ya before and you know i'm just funnin...if we cant laugh..then life would be really really fuckin short eh...

exactly mate.

[ToxicAvenger]

I think you should ask her what she would like to have before you get there. I'm a Vodka and diet 7-up girl myself. Never really developed a taste for wine. Ignore those guys that are putting you down. They're just jealous. You're nice, considerate, and definitely have class.

ahh david is a good guy...bezerk just has a problem..even with most females on here..owell..

well what do i do when i go to a place that only servs wine?    
and i feel wierd asking before hand..i think its crass....i cant even bring myself to buy girls that i dont know drinks at bars...

i think its crass to ask " would you like i drink"   <-- wayy to expectant..

what i usually do is go "  hey hon i'm gonna go grab myself a drink...do ya want something(or..watcha drinking)?"  that way..its not direct and its matter of factly...

what i usually do is look at the girl like ..you go first..and hope n pray she's gonna order herself a drink..instead of waiting for me..

however..a confident girl (that knows her wine) will only smile at me in that "go ahead..i trust ya" way...kinda makes my night sometimes  

[BuffGoddess]

If you are at a place that only has wine, then by all means order a bottle. I'm sure you know more than most of us on here about wines, so she should trust your judgement. The only time I usually drink wine is on show day, I have some Merlot in a boda bag backstage. It seems to help wring out the last of the water if I'm not dry enough. Calms the nerves too...

[ToxicAvenger]

If you are at a place that only has wine, then by all means order a bottle. I'm sure you know more than most of us on here about wines, so she should trust your judgement. The only time I usually drink wine is on show day, I have some Merlot in a boda bag backstage. It seems to help wring out the last of the water if I'm not dry enough. Calms the nerves too...

i hate ordering wine if i'm not sure she likes it..and i dont know more than most about wines on here..ok i'm being modest but still. 

jennifer1 from the fitness board knows a LOT and so does Stella...

wine is more than just a drink..wine is an experience hon...almost religious...kinda like what you feel after you've seen your life pass in front of your eyes on a good squat day...

almost exactly like that actually...

[Forbidden]

I think your manners are charming toxic they cost nothing and everyone can own them, they are universal and certainly makes a girl feel very special.  I mean look at this:

The girl gets all dressed up for a wonderful date you know nails, hair, new underwear (just in case haha) gorgeous new dress, that mind you she has probably paid a fortune for and dieted for weeks to fit into.  Perfect make up looks a million dollars only to have the guy across from her carry on like he is on a camping trip with his mates.  It really has happened to me and I felt soooo embarrassed.  I myself pride myself on knowing what cultery to use, what glass to drink out of and knowing not to pick up the bill when it comes.  I also know that when the bill does come it is polite to excuse yourself to powder your nose.  Or if you both need to leave then to stand behind the man while he does the financial paperwork.  I feel really embarrassed for the guy when the girl is breathing down his neck while he is paying.  For one it is rude to stare into someones wallet and two if he hasnt got enough money or for some reason his credit is not good, without an audience it gives him privacy to work something out with the matrade. Just IMO

Now for the wine thing I think it was just assumed that the man would order and taste, these days I think it is ok for you to ask your lady.  I personally feel quite special when I am looked after and dont really have to think about the wine list.

Hope this helps xo

[Samourai Pizzacat]

Let her choose her own wine, remember, these fomalities stem from times that were much more conservative, a time were women were not considered equal. Women these days offcourse still like courtesy but they are independent beings with their own set of brains, so fer god's sake let them pick their own wine!

[diamond]

awww Toxic...just awww!

Just ask her if she prefers anything specific...I'd like to have some sort of say in what I have to drink for the night.

I've been on a date where the guy has ordered the wine, and it was horrible...I could not bring myself to drink it, so for the whole date I went without a drink because I didnt want to feel bad ordering another drink lol.

Everyone has been preferences when it comes to wine, you are better off asking in case what you order is the complete opposite to what she likes.

[GET_BIGGER]

I would ask what she prefers........nothing wrong with asking and then ordering it.  But if I also noticed she wasnt drinking it i would ask what else she would like to drink rather than sitting their through the whole date being oblivious to her full glass.   

[ToxicAvenger]

I think your manners are charming toxic they cost nothing and everyone can own them, they are universal and certainly makes a girl feel very special.  I mean look at this:

The girl gets all dressed up for a wonderful date you know nails, hair, new underwear (just in case haha) gorgeous new dress, that mind you she has probably paid a fortune for and dieted for weeks to fit into.  Perfect make up looks a million dollars only to have the guy across from her carry on like he is on a camping trip with his mates.  It really has happened to me and I felt soooo embarrassed.  I myself pride myself on knowing what cultery to use, what glass to drink out of and knowing not to pick up the bill when it comes.  I also know that when the bill does come it is polite to excuse yourself to powder your nose.  Or if you both need to leave then to stand behind the man while he does the financial paperwork.  I feel really embarrassed for the guy when the girl is breathing down his neck while he is paying.  For one it is rude to stare into someones wallet and two if he hasnt got enough money or for some reason his credit is not good, without an audience it gives him privacy to work something out with the matrade. Just IMO

Now for the wine thing I think it was just assumed that the man would order and taste, these days I think it is ok for you to ask your lady.  I personally feel quite special when I am looked after and dont really have to think about the wine list.

Hope this helps xo

You my dear, are perfect! 


So many times i've been distressed when my date wont excuse herself after dinner is done and make herself scarse. I feel wierd paying in front of her and i happen to tip generously and i'm always wayyy to conscious that she might think i'm trying to impress her by throwing $ around..which would be utterly rude...so i NEED my dates to go 'powder their noses' after dinner is done.

[ToxicAvenger]

I would ask what she prefers........nothing wrong with asking and then ordering it.  But if I also noticed she wasnt drinking it i would ask what else she would like to drink rather than sitting their through the whole date being oblivious to her full glass.   

bingo my man!

[24KT]

Toxie, don't let the barberians taunt you for good manners.

My best friend Ed in Cali is like that.

He holds doors, pushes in chairs, stands when a woman leaves the table etc. not because he's looking to score points... that's just the way he was raised. A woman can tell if a guy is just looking to score points, or if he is  sincere, and simply the product of good breeding, and ingrained with courtesy and good manners. It just radiates from within.

Let me tell you he often puts many men in the room to shame because they too sense it's not out of desire to get laid.

[proschic]

Tox....

Use your upbringing, morals, and manners to weed out the girls that aren't good enough for you.  Most of the time it is the other way around....but it seems that you would make a fine catch for a respectable woman.

As long as you can let loose and have some fun outside of the dinner-setting...it sounds like you have your shit straight!  I hope you find someone that is worth your while.

[ToxicAvenger]

Toxie, don't let the barberians taunt you for good manners.

My best friend Ed in Cali is like that.

He holds doors, pushes in chairs, stands when a woman leaves the table etc. not because he's looking to score points... that's just the way he was raised. A woman can tell if a guy is just looking to score points, or if he is  sincere, and simply the product of good breeding, and ingrained with courtesy and good manners. It just radiates from within.

Let me tell you he often puts many men in the room to shame because they too sense it's not out of desire to get laid.

thankyou!

[ToxicAvenger]

  I hate red wine.  Gives me a headache and I haven't found one I could stand to drink.    

sangria!!!   

[Forbidden]

You my dear, are perfect! 


So many times i've been distressed when my date wont excuse herself after dinner is done and make herself scarse. I feel wierd paying in front of her and i happen to tip generously and i'm always wayyy to conscious that she might think i'm trying to impress her by throwing $ around..which would be utterly rude...so i NEED my dates to go 'powder their noses' after dinner is done.

I am far from perfect but I do try! LOL

[GoneAway]

pride > pussy

Somehow, that quote and this thread don't match.

[BuffGoddess]

Toxie, don't let the barberians taunt you for good manners.

My best friend Ed in Cali is like that.

He holds doors, pushes in chairs, stands when a woman leaves the table etc. not because he's looking to score points... that's just the way he was raised. A woman can tell if a guy is just looking to score points, or if he is  sincere, and simply the product of good breeding, and ingrained with courtesy and good manners. It just radiates from within.

Let me tell you he often puts many men in the room to shame because they too sense it's not out of desire to get laid.

And his phone number is....Just teasing because I'm very happy with my man but I do have a couple of friends that are single...