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Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« on: January 09, 2007, 04:24:46 PM »
This is what Brian Dobson (owner of Metroflex gym) told me this morning in reference to Ronnies racist remark -



"I can't believe people are slamming Ronnie Coleman as a racist, its absolutely ludicrous" said Brian Dobson following internet reports of Coleman's comments.

Brian Dobson is the owner of Metroflex gym in Arlington, Texas where Coleman has trained his entire bodybuilding career. Throughout Ronnie's history as a bodybuilding night, Brian has consistently been his saddle in the battle.

In the latest of events on Monday evening Ronnie quoted Jay as 'having another white mans opinion', on hearing Cutlers advice that it was possibly time for him (Coleman) to hang up his trunks.

Here is what Brian Dobson had to say in Coleman's defense - "I have been the best of friends with Ronnie for 17 years and not once have I experience and racism from him. When he first started training many of his black friend's sniggered at him for lifting with me because I was white but Coleman has never seen the difference in anyone - black, white, Hispanic or whatever. If he was racist I'm sure he would have picked someone other than Chad Nichols as his nutritionist to control much of his success.

He is an avid Christian and he has not shown any signs of bad apples in regards to Cutlers win last year, if anything it has brought him back to earth and back to the hardcore roots of the champion he always has been".

Ronnie is said to be training hard, heavy and basic and is already punching out 45 minutes of cardio on the elliptical trainer every day leaving no stone unturned that will path out the way to his ninth Olympia win.




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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2007, 04:34:05 PM »
This is what Brian Dobson (owner of Metroflex gym) told me this morning in reference to Ronnies racist remark - http://www.prosource.net/gossip.jsp

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A stirring defense of the man who is the sole draw for his POS gym.

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2007, 04:34:36 PM »
He is an avid Christian and he has not shown any signs of bad apples in regards to Cutlers win last year, if anything it has brought him back to earth and back to the hardcore roots of the champion he always has been".

He showed NO bad apples? he refused to go on stage and accept his medal , Lee Haney had to talk him off the ledge , he was supposed to do the Pro seminar the following day and was a no-show , I'd call them bad apples , and again if Jay had said " its just another black mans opinion " he'd be labeled ' racist ' so enough with the double standard

Not to seem snappy at you Mr Gethin I know you're only the messenger

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2007, 04:37:08 PM »
He is an avid Christian and he has not shown any signs of bad apples in regards to Cutlers win last year, if anything it has brought him back to earth and back to the hardcore roots of the champion he always has been".

He showed NO bad apples? he refused to go on stage and accept his medal , Lee Haney had to talk him off the ledge , he was supposed to do the Pro seminar the following day and was a no-show , I'd call them bad apples , and again if Jay had said " its just another black mans opinion " he'd be labeled ' racist ' so enough with the double standard

Not to seem snappy at you Mr Gethin I know you're only the messenger

great post !!

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2007, 04:38:31 PM »
Someone needs to coach Coleman on how to speak in public like most real athletes do.

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2007, 04:45:32 PM »
Not to seem snappy at you Mr Gethin I know you're only the messenger

No snappy taken  ;)
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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2007, 04:48:54 PM »
 It's different in CANADA than it is in the STATES, Matt C...

 In America...it is 100% 'okay' and legit for a black man to make fun of...call racial names to and play the game against whites...it is 100% NOT OKAY for a white man to do the same.

 In 1997 in Chicago...a 13yr old BLACK teen was in my neighborhood taunting and 'talkin shit' toa group of teenage white kids. Result? Black kid got his ass kicked. Result from that? It made national headlines for months and the kids who beat him up went to jail.

 The day the story broke out on the news...cops told me there were about a dozen 'retaliation' crimes of blax at random beating white people including a 44yr old woman at a bus stop "just because". Result? never ever made the paper or news and nobody had a comment on it...not even the biggest extortionist race-baiter that ever lived...Jesse Jackson.
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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2007, 04:51:48 PM »
He is an avid Christian and he has not shown any signs of bad apples in regards to Cutlers win last year, if anything it has brought him back to earth and back to the hardcore roots of the champion he always has been".

He showed NO bad apples? he refused to go on stage and accept his medal , Lee Haney had to talk him off the ledge , he was supposed to do the Pro seminar the following day and was a no-show , I'd call them bad apples , and again if Jay had said " its just another black mans opinion " he'd be labeled ' racist ' so enough with the double standard

Not to seem snappy at you Mr Gethin I know you're only the messenger

'The moral of the story - why complain?' - Haha remember Ronnie saying this??
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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2007, 04:54:30 PM »
I wouldn't call them bad apples.

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I'd prefer to call them sour grapes.  ;D

I'm sick and tired of this liberal standard on what racism is.  It is NOT racist for Ronnie to say what he did, nor would it be racist if Jay said the same thing.  If Ronnie was racist why would he consider Brian Dobson to be his guardian angel and best friend?  Makes no sense at all.  Judge him for his actions, not the words that come out of his mouth.

It reminds me of the time I was banned from ironage in part because I had linked to a page with the word "negro" on it.  You don't like the word negro?  Well here's some advice for you: you are entitled to YOUR opinion and I am entitled to MINE.  The word negro is a great word and is a very spiritual one at that and the only reason I don't use it in conversation is because of the weak minded fucks who get scared by mere words, because I would rather be wrong and happy (by shutting up) than being right (expressing myself as I see fit) and unhappy (dealing with these crybabies).  I feel sorry for what these people would have to go through if they travelled to Africa or another country where people are being exploited first hand due to their race.  THAT is true racism - get a clue.

I have the right to offend you, and you have the right to offend me in return - they are just words.  In Ronnie's life, and given the actions he has taken, he has not demonstrated any signs of racism, so give up this petty nonsense.

Matt you were banned from Ironage because you didn't follow the rules NOT because of the link to the word ' negro ' lets be honest  ;)

Do I personally think Ronnie is ' racist ' ? NO however if Jay or any other white bodybuilder would have said that he would have been labeled a racist in a New York minute , so if whats is good for the goose it should also be for the gander

It strikes me just plain odd why he would say its just another whites mans opinion , what does that imply? what was the sense in pointing out his race? its a really odd statement.

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2007, 04:57:37 PM »
It's different in CANADA than it is in the STATES, Matt C...

 In America...it is 100% 'okay' and legit for a black man to make fun of...call racial names to and play the game against whites...it is 100% NOT OKAY for a white man to do the same.

 In 1997 in Chicago...a 13yr old BLACK teen was in my neighborhood taunting and 'talkin shit' toa group of teenage white kids. Result? Black kid got his ass kicked. Result from that? It made national headlines for months and the kids who beat him up went to jail.

 The day the story broke out on the news...cops told me there were about a dozen 'retaliation' crimes of blax at random beating white people including a 44yr old woman at a bus stop "just because". Result? never ever made the paper or news and nobody had a comment on it...not even the biggest extortionist race-baiter that ever lived...Jesse Jackson.

There is a difference like someone said if two white comedians made a movie called " Black Chicks " and played them ' sterotypically ' there would be hell to pay , Jesse Jackson has don't by Seinfeld DVD's because you'll indirectly be supporting a ' racist ' yet he refers to New York as " Hymie-Town " and thats goes unchallenged , there is a double standard and its wrong .

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2007, 05:02:52 PM »
Gotta say I love that avatar, ND. Best scene in Collateral, take that you tiny tits!!!!!
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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2007, 05:06:51 PM »
It's different in CANADA than it is in the STATES, Matt C...

 In America...it is 100% 'okay' and legit for a black man to make fun of...call racial names to and play the game against whites...it is 100% NOT OKAY for a white man to do the same.

 In 1997 in Chicago...a 13yr old BLACK teen was in my neighborhood taunting and 'talkin shit' toa group of teenage white kids. Result? Black kid got his ass kicked. Result from that? It made national headlines for months and the kids who beat him up went to jail.

 The day the story broke out on the news...cops told me there were about a dozen 'retaliation' crimes of blax at random beating white people including a 44yr old woman at a bus stop "just because". Result? never ever made the paper or news and nobody had a comment on it...not even the biggest extortionist race-baiter that ever lived...Jesse Jackson.

Sounds like the Rodney King beating.  Then again, years and years of people like Rodney King being beaten resulted in those retaliation crimes, not just the isolated incident.  How do you think that kind of attitude towards blacks affects the psyche of a black person?

HOWEVER, it is one thing when a black man gets dealt the race card, it is another thing entirely when they deserve it.  In Canada, Native Canadians are our black people - where the government protects them as much as possible, but when the day is over, they are the ones being treated poorly by everyone else.  Don't kid yourself - just because the US government protects black people doesn't mean they have it easier than we do!  They may have that protection but have to deal with a host of other problems in day to day life.  I would rather have the government ignore my needs and be treated better (thanks to being white), than be a black person in the USA.  While I am opposed to people being dealt the race card and admit that it must play a huge role in damaging one's motivations, there is NO EXCUSE for not being mentally tough about it - NO EXCUSE.  I don't care if you were beaten and raped every day of your life, if you aren't out there trying to make the best of your circumstance, you are not a winner in my book.  I had a rough childhood in a house full of unloving family and had to tolerate years of yelling and dysfunction, not to mention horrible peer influences in school, and it never stopped me from trying my best in life.  Now people who meet me would have no clue of some of the stuff I had to deal with growing up.  Why?  Because I am mentally strong and have CHARACTER, and it doesn't matter what my circumstance, I will always be a winner.

All of the Natives I met this year met the stereotype to perfection and I don't feel sorry for any of the ones I met.  It's one thing being the victim of racism and trying your best to try to be the best person you can be - it's another thing entirely to be your own worst enemy and continually perpetrate the stereotypes that are being held against your race and keeping you down in life in general.

Matt you were banned from Ironage because you didn't follow the rules NOT because of the link to the word ' negro ' lets be honest  ;)

Do I personally think Ronnie is ' racist ' ? NO however if Jay or any other white bodybuilder would have said that he would have been labeled a racist in a New York minute , so if whats is good for the goose it should also be for the gander

It strikes me just plain odd why he would say its just another whites mans opinion , what does that imply? what was the sense in pointing out his race? its a really odd statement.

I agree, it is an odd statement.  ???  Not something I'd personally make a fuss over, but I have to admit I don't understand it, and you are right that Jay would be up shit creek if he said it.  Ronnie was as humble as Jay for the longest time, but I think winning for so long made him pretty cocky.  I hope he gets brought back down to earth and avoids any further statements like the one he made.

PS - my banishment from ironage.us.  Discuss.
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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2007, 05:18:19 PM »
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I agree, it is an odd statement.  Huh  Not something I'd personally make a fuss over, but I have to admit I don't understand it, and you are right that Jay would be up shit creek if he said it.  Ronnie was as humble as Jay for the longest time, but I think winning for so long made him pretty cocky.  I hope he gets brought back down to earth and avoids any further statements like the one he made.

PS - my banishment from ironage.us.  Discuss.

You're right when people are telling you night & day that you're the best and NOT just the best now , but the best ever and all the magazines are kissing your ass in every other article it builds on you in time and eventually you start to believe your own press , Ronnie when he turned Pro was just happy being a Pro he never expected to win the Olympia and he never thought he would or was good enough , his first win was very refreshing to see his emotions and everyone loves an underdog and same thing in 99 you can tell he was still not sure if 98 was a fluke , in time he kept winning & winning and the confidence grew to the point of denile , like 2001 comment " Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me , he better be born again with better genetics ' when clearly Ronnie was off and almost paid the price , 2002 same thing , I've always said its like he was daring the judges to mark him down by always relaxing his stomach and coming if less than perfect and he finially paid the price , he needed someone level headed and dead pan honest to tell him when he was off and what need improvement etc , I fear this comment and other will tarnish his legacy .

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2007, 05:21:34 PM »
You're right when people are telling you night & day that you're the best and NOT just the best now , but the best ever and all the magazines are kissing your ass in every other article it builds on you in time and eventually you start to believe your own press , Ronnie when he turned Pro was just happy being a Pro he never expected to win the Olympia and he never thought he would or was good enough , his first win was very refreshing to see his emotions and everyone loves an underdog and same thing in 99 you can tell he was still not sure if 98 was a fluke , in time he kept winning & winning and the confidence grew to the point of denile , like 2001 comment " Jay must be on crack to think he could ever beat me , he better be born again with better genetics ' when clearly Ronnie was off and almost paid the price , 2002 same thing , I've always said its like he was daring the judges to mark him down by always relaxing his stomach and coming if less than perfect and he finially paid the price , he needed someone level headed and dead pan honest to tell him when he was off and what need improvement etc , I fear this comment and other will tarnish his legacy .

For these exact reasons, he has absolutely no excuse to play the race card now, the IFBB carried his massive ass for years.....
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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2007, 05:28:47 PM »
you guys need to learn to get your point across without writing 2-3 pages
blockhead for example is notorious for writing page up and page down of shit nobody cares to read.
the whole racist-issue was covered LAST night during and after the radio show. end of story.
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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2007, 05:59:12 PM »
great post !!

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2007, 06:01:22 PM »
He is an avid Christian and he has not shown any signs of bad apples in regards to Cutlers win last year, if anything it has brought him back to earth and back to the hardcore roots of the champion he always has been".

He showed NO bad apples? he refused to go on stage and accept his medal , Lee Haney had to talk him off the ledge , he was supposed to do the Pro seminar the following day and was a no-show , I'd call them bad apples , and again if Jay had said " its just another black mans opinion " he'd be labeled ' racist ' so enough with the double standard

Not to seem snappy at you Mr Gethin I know you're only the messenger

"Deity" the BEEATCH whining in predictable fashion. Notice that he never discusses "mr. personality" and the black eye he got over money owed. hahahahahahaha

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2007, 06:02:51 PM »

the whole racist-issue was covered LAST night during and after the radio show. end of story.


Meanwhile "blowhard" just started another race thread. LOL

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2007, 06:03:20 PM »
"Deity" the BEEATCH whining in predictable fashion. Interesting that he never discusses "mr. personality" and the black eye he got over money owed. hahahahahahaha

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2007, 06:05:18 PM »
"Deity" the BEEATCH whining in predictable fashion. Notice that he never discusses "mr. personality" and the black eye he got over money owed. hahahahahahaha

Stick to the topic  ;)

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2007, 06:18:34 PM »
"When he first started training many of his black friend's sniggered at him for lifting with me because I was white but Coleman has never seen the difference in anyone - black, white, Hispanic or whatever."

Seems like DOBSON's the racist!!1111!!1

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2007, 07:32:47 PM »
I wouldn't call them bad apples.

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come out of his mouth.



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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2007, 08:05:05 PM »
'The moral of the story - why complain?' - Haha remember Ronnie saying this??

ahaha someone should remind him that
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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2007, 08:20:36 PM »
No snappy taken  ;)

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Re: Brian Dobson defends Coleman
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2007, 08:39:24 PM »
Obviously no, I can't prove anything but remember something, this is the 1st time the comments were actually put in print somewhere, is it the 1st time I heard they were spoken before?  No.
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