Funny thing about our enemies...

[240 is Back]

We don't know why we hate them! lol...


I've been asking people to tell me 3 reasons why they hate so-and-so, and the reasons are usually pretty vague.


If you want to bomb a nation, and they haven't attacked you, and you haven't negotiated with them, and the WMD intel is all over the place, and we've actually threatened them in the media...


Well, tell us why you hate them.  Why do you hate Chavez?  All I know of him is that he said the US is currently invading nations that haven't attacked us (which we are), that Bush smells of sulfur (and it's well known bush enjoys fart jokes), and that 911 needs reinvestigated (which the majority of americans agree with).

So convince us.  SELL us.  Why is this guy the devil, and is he wrong about those 3 points above?

[240 is Back]

(BTW, don't be an idiot and accuse me of defending the enemy or whatever.  I want clarification on WHY they're the enemy.  If you know enough to determine a nation needs obliderated, you must have some purrty good reasons)

[RUDE BUOY]

well rob i can tell you this the way i see it is this they are the enemy cuase they have the oil

[Eyeball Chambers]

They hate our freedoms... duh.











 

[RUDE BUOY]

They hate our freedoms... duh.











 

yes they want mcdonalds too

[240 is Back]

yes they want mcdonalds too

Better keep their hands off my mcgriddles.

Bush has already said he'll attack whoever he needs to attack, despite the will of the people. So I'm already accepting we'll continue war in iraq and we're gonna bomb iran.

But for the good folks that call these countries enemies, I just wanna know why.  I know ahmedijad has said some nasty things, okay.  He's a prick, sure.  but you can't just kill millions because their leader (who doesn't carry much power compared to his own legislature) talks trash to get elected.

So tell us, what have these cats done?

[RUDE BUOY]

bush now thinks he knows whats good for the people he is not even listening to them anymore it a bad situation

[ToxicAvenger]

US versus THEM...

white Versus brown!

muslims baaaad.arrrrrgh.....here in the US..CIA funded..


whitie baad...in paki..ISI/CIA funded....


lots n lots n lots of $ being made..last time i ws in dubai i saw 12 yr old kiddies driving ferraris on the beach///truse story..i went to watch a cric match...


yanno growing up as a muzzie kid..my first make out experience ws with my christian tutors teen daughter.she ws 18..i ws 12...

ahh memories..

bad christians...     fox would have you believe christians in paki/karachi r killed on sight...

lol./.phuleese..

[mightymouse72]

We don't know why we hate them! lol...


I've been asking people to tell me 3 reasons why they hate so-and-so, and the reasons are usually pretty vague.


If you want to bomb a nation, and they haven't attacked you, and you haven't negotiated with them, and the WMD intel is all over the place, and we've actually threatened them in the media...


Well, tell us why you hate them.  Why do you hate Chavez?  All I know of him is that he said the US is currently invading nations that haven't attacked us (which we are), that Bush smells of sulfur (and it's well known bush enjoys fart jokes), and that 911 needs reinvestigated (which the majority of americans agree with).

So convince us.  SELL us.  Why is this guy the devil, and is he wrong about those 3 points above?

Venezuela Dictator VosT Bring Down U.S. Government

Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo gasoline company

Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government. Chavez, president of Venezuela, told a TV audience  : "Enough of imperialist aggression; we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century." The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela, was Cindy Sheehan, the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his guest Harry Belafonte, who called President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world." Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance with Cuban dictator Fidel Castro. Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq, the issue here is that we have a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the government of the U.S. And he is using our money to achieve his goal! The Venezuela government, run by dictator Chavez, is the sole owner of Citgo  gas company. Sales of products at Citgo stations send money back to Chavez to help him in his vow to bring down our government.




that's why

[Hugo Chavez]

Yup, Down with imperialism, I agree.  That is not the US Gov or should I say it should not be the policy of the US Gov.  End Imperialism, I agree with Chavez as usual Many many people in America do and I'll find righties who agree too... End Empire and End Imperialism this century. 

A vow to end imperialism is not a vow to end the US Government.  That's fooey.
This is why he's an "enemy"
http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/november2006/271106chavezderails.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/jones_report_110402_palast.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/300305hugochavez.htm

[Stark]

It's easier to hate or kill something you don't know.

In the Japanese US war a Lieutenant wrote in his diary, that he discovered that the "Japs" did not have the same heart we have, he found this out by inspected freshly killed Japanese Soldiers.
If you think of something less than an animal, if it has no value to you at all it's easy to kill.
Same thing we do in the middle east, it helps that they tend to look a little different to us.

[mightymouse72]

Yup, Down with imperialism, I agree.  That is not the US Gov or should I say it should not be the policy of the US Gov.  End Imperialism, I agree with Chavez as usual Many many people in America do and I'll find righties who agree too... End Empire and End Imperialism this century. 

A vow to end imperialism is not a vow to end the US Government.  That's fooey.

Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government.


 does he need to paint you a picture.

does his comment not scream imperialisim??  how else would he bring down the US govt?  with lollipops.

no straight thinking American should defend this man.  if they do, please take the first flight to Venezuela.

[240 is Back]

wait, so US imperialism is now bad?

[Hugo Chavez]

Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government.


 does he need to paint you a picture.

does his comment not scream imperialism??  how else would he bring down the US govt?  with lollipops.

no straight thinking American should defend this man.  if they do, please take the first flight to Venezuela.

You said he's bringing down the government, has he said that?  I think that would be a declaration of war if he had  Ending imperialism is no different than what many Americans want, does that mean they're trying to bring an end to the US gov... hell no... That would put them in custody real fast.  I have many many times tuned into Americans on the topic of American Imperialism and how it must end.  What do you mean, does his comment not scream imperialism?  I sense we're not on the same page here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperialism

[Hugo Chavez]

wait, so US imperialism is now bad?

when was it good

[240 is Back]

when was it good

Exactly.

People attack hugo for attacking US Imperialism.

I want to hear them first say imperialism is a good thing, and defend that.  They're defending it by attacking Chavez, whether they know it or not.

So let's hear it folks - do you support US Imperialism in the world?

[Hugo Chavez]

Exactly.

People attack hugo for attacking US Imperialism.

I want to hear them first say imperialism is a good thing, and defend that.  They're defending it by attacking Chavez, whether they know it or not.

So let's hear it folks - do you support US Imperialism in the world?

more and more will say yes today than ever before.

[a_joker10]

imperialism
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/imperialism

   1.   The policy of extending a nation's authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political hegemony over other nations.
   2. The system, policies, or practices of such a government.

http://www.answers.com/topic/hegemony

he·gem·o·ny (hĭ-jĕm'ə-nē, hĕj'ə-mō'nē) pronunciation
n., pl. -nies.

The predominant influence, as of a state, region, or group, over another or others.

IT is better that America and the West to influence other nations then it is that China or other dictatorships influence them.

[240 is Back]

IT is better that America and the West to influence other nations then it is that China or other dictatorships influence them.

Well, it's better that I shoot my own dog, rather than let the vet do it.

Doesn't mean I shouldn't try giving my dog medicine first, does it?

[a_joker10]

Well, it's better that I shoot my own dog, rather than let the vet do it.

Doesn't mean I shouldn't try giving my dog medicine first, does it?

That depends on if you like the dog.

Actually that is an economic decision and would depend on the condition of the dog. If the dog had a cold medicine might help.

If the dog got hit by a car and is dying. Then you should shoot it.

[OzmO]

Are we going to start singing that Beth Midler song now?

 

[240 is Back]

That depends on if you like the dog.

Actually that is an economic decision and would depend on the condition of the dog. If the dog had a cold medicine might help.

If the dog got hit by a car and is dying. Then you should shoot it.

The "car" was American-made.  These nations were not in turmoil, neeing US intervention until we destroyed their power grids and kicked out the ruling govt.

Bush had to go the oil route, or go the alternative energy route.  Given his family business, he had more motivation to follow oil.  It is what it is.  Maybe the next leader will do something differently.

[OzmO]

The "car" was American-made.  These nations were not in turmoil, neeing US intervention until we destroyed their power grids and kicked out the ruling govt.

Bush had to go the oil route, or go the alternative energy route.  Given his family business, he had more motivation to follow oil.  It is what it is.  Maybe the next leader will do something differently.

It's our M.O.

We support govenrments that support our economic interests. If that government changes and doesn't support our interests they become our enemies one way or another.

[OzmO]

I just wish all countries would be soo economically interwoven that war would be impractical.

[a_joker10]

The "car" was American-made.  These nations were not in turmoil, neeing US intervention until we destroyed their power grids and kicked out the ruling govt.

Bush had to go the oil route, or go the alternative energy route.  Given his family business, he had more motivation to follow oil.  It is what it is.  Maybe the next leader will do something differently.

Your talking about Iraq.

However there are many nations that need help and are looking for it from the US. Especially in Africa.

Alternative energy is all well and fine, but the amount of capital required to make any substantial gains is very limiting.
I suggest you read some policy papers on Alternative energy and not from sites like freeenergy.org or whatever.
It would really open your eyes to how tied to oil we really are.

There is no such thing is free energy. At lest GWB has started to move towards mandatory requirements for E85 fuel stations.