Message to exercise equiptment manufacturers!

[ToxicAvenger]

Who gave yall the bright idea that ALL legcurl machines must have the split angled design..

it reduces ROM and at least in my case ..i lost contact with the muscle...

bring back the ole straight board ones where ya lay completely straight and learned how to keep your ass down.

yes the angled split ones you dont have to learn to keep  your pelvis in contact with the machine but you r cutting the ROM by 1/4...

..every other hamstring day i'm gonna have to not go to the regular golds and instead go to a rec center..thankfully it has one of the old ones..they work MUCH better..

rant over.

[Adam Empire]

Completely agree.  When my old gym switched from the old "flat" bench to the 2 piece angle version, I left for good.

[Jr. Yates]

my old gym has a straight one, I like it much better too.

[The Squadfather]

leg curls are gay, just squat and leg press heavy and deep.

[ToxicAvenger]

leg curls are gay, just squat and leg press heavy and deep.

i do stiff legged deads..(the non romanian version)

but i used to do high rep curls followed by forced negatives on em...


on the leg presses i tend to stay in the middle of the platform..

i split my quads and hams..

[ManBearPig...]

i just squat the leg machine itself.

heavy and deep baby!!!   

[The Squadfather]

i do stiff legged deads..(the non romanian version)

but i used to do high rep curls followed by forced negatives on em...


on the leg presses i tend to stay in the middle of the platform..

i split my quads and hams..

"split my quads and hams" hahahaha, who are you Jay Cutler?

[ToxicAvenger]

"split my quads and hams" hahahaha, who are you Jay Cutler?

no..just not conditioned enough to do em the same workout.. 

sundays ..quads
mondays...hams and calves..

[The Squadfather]

no..just not conditioned enough to do em the same workout.. 

sundays ..quads
mondays...hams and calves..

hahahahaha, it ain't running a marathon it's just a few sets of 10-15 on squats and leg presses.

[ManBearPig...]

no..just not conditioned enough to do em the same workout.. 

sundays ..quads
mondays...hams and calves..

anything in between those days?

[ToxicAvenger]

hahahahaha, it ain't running a marathon it's just a few sets of 10-15 on squats and leg presses.

didn't i just recently post about how i quit "smoking" and "drinking" and partying all the time..haven't been in the gym in 4 friggin yrs man..

last training session..5ish sets of squats..a few more sets on presses and i ws DONE!..felt like i got run over by a train..(dont even remember exactly..there is a thread down below someplace)

maybe in a few months i'd like to add em together and do it in one day...and give arms an extra day..

till then.. i just cant..

i'm THAT out of shape..

[ToxicAvenger]

found the other thread..this is what i did my last squat day..and i ws pooped..like cant wait to get home ..and sleep ..

n oh here is how it went

walked on the mill for 5 mins
after warmup..

135 * 20
135* 20
185 * 20
185 * 12
225 * 15
225* 8
135 * 8ish..i just stopped at 8..i ws coughing too much .. (been sick and on anti biotics)

did 2 sets..on the leg press..4 plates/side..20 reps a piece..

then 5 sets for abs..and walked out.al wobbly..nothing else..

[The Squadfather]

found the other thread..this is what i did my last squat day..and i ws pooped..like cant wait to get home ..and sleep ..

n oh here is how it went

walked on the mill for 5 mins
after warmup..

135 * 20
135* 20
185 * 20
185 * 12
225 * 15
225* 8
135 * 8ish..i just stopped at 8..i ws coughing too much .. (been sick and on anti biotics)

did 2 sets..on the leg press..4 plates/side..20 reps a piece..

then 5 sets for abs..and walked out.al wobbly..nothing else..

damn man that's like my warmup.

[ToxicAvenger]

give me a break man  ..at least i dont come here and lie..

in a few months hopefully i'll be doing both on the same day ...and then i can give arms/shoulders their own day..they r pathetic to say the least..

[Vince B]

I designed a split lying leg curl way back in 1982. I thought it targeted the hamstrings better than the Nautilus straight design. Recently my son, who is an exercise physiologist, said the design had to be alterred to more effectively work the hamstrings. His recommendation was to have the body in a raised, straight position with arms extended. I haven't reworked the design to incorporate his suggestions.

Either a machine correctly works a muscle or it does not. The split design makes the exercise easier for beginners but perhaps becomes less effective for advanced users. The test of any machine is how it feels when using maximum resistance.

[chainsaw]

I designed a split lying leg curl way back in 1982. I thought it targeted the hamstrings better than the Nautilus straight design. Recently my son, who is an exercise physiologist, said the design had to be alterred to more effectively work the hamstrings. His recommendation was to have the body in a raised, straight position with arms extended. I haven't reworked the design to incorporate his suggestions.

Either a machine correctly works a muscle or it does not. The split design makes the exercise easier for beginners but perhaps becomes less effective for advanced users. The test of any machine is how it feels when using maximum resistance.

Tried to reinvent the wheel...  So I should blame YOU!!!  Just joking.  Get that other machine up and runnin! NOw

[ToxicAvenger]

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 The split design makes the exercise easier for beginners but perhaps becomes less effective for advanced users. maximum resistance.

BINGO!

His recommendation was to have the body in a raised, straight position with arms extended.

isn't that like going back to the old design mang.. 

[hangclean]

Sarcasm is right by saying leg curls are shit.  If you use a 45 degree hyper or even better a glute ham raise, along with your deep squats and stiff leg deadlifts you will be much better off.  Leg curls and leg extensions suck.

[ToxicAvenger]

or even better a glute ham raise, along with your deep squats and stiff leg deadlifts you will be much better off.  Leg curls and leg extensions suck.

ironagers....   


you have every book stewart mc roberts ever wrote dontcha? 

[hangclean]

ironagers....   


you have every book stewart mc roberts ever wrote dontcha? 

I dont even know who that is.

[ToxicAvenger]

I dont even know who that is.

lol sorry mang..he wrote all them hard gainer books..

[hangclean]

lol sorry mang..he wrote all them hard gainer books..

Its true though.  Leg curls suck and leg extensions are dangerous.  If you do 45 degree hypers right your hams will be fried.

[ToxicAvenger]

.  Leg curls suck and leg extensions are dangerous.  

how?

done improperly...squats..ben ches..deadlifts are also dangerous..

[hangclean]

how?

done improperly...squats..ben ches..deadlifts are also dangerous..

There is an article on the Testosterone website about it.  I used to do leg extensions thinking it would help my knee but I was wrong.

[gordiano]

I agree with ya, Tox.





However, I'd rather they (equip comp.) make something that makes women do the splits for reps.........with a facing chair attachment for me to spot them head on..