DISGUSTED: Bodybuilding Guru?

[troponin]

Completely off topic but I'm bored with my routine and I'm gonna DC it for a while, dead of winter seems like a good time. Anybody got any links to DC's stuff. i lost mine.

www.intensemuscle.com
go to the "dogg pound"

[natural al]

Completely off topic but I'm bored with my routine and I'm gonna DC it for a while, dead of winter seems like a good time. Anybody got any links to DC's stuff. i lost mine.

http://timwescott.proboards18.com/index.cgi?board=Talk&action=display&thread=1101334382&page=1

read everything In-Human says, he doesn't post anymore but he knew his shit, try out Intensemuscle.com also.

there's also a thread on the training board......

[Palpatine Q]

Thanks guys

[Samourai Pizzacat]

Can we please not loose sight of the fact that there are great benefits to interval based cardio twice or three times a week?

You don't need to do cardio to get cut, no, but if you want to improve your general health and cardiovascular system you are very much advised to do so.

A slow walk on the treadmill will do almost jack shit (and this seems to be the modus operandi of the general US public when it comes to workouts), caloric restriction is numero uno in that case, however a good cardio regime (like the one I discussed above) is a great asset in getting and staying healthy.

[Moen]

fucker..eat 5 small/moderate meals per day (minimize carbs intake), lift heavy and mix in cardio (but don't over do it)

now get lost.

 

Perhaps you're better off on dr phil's forum

[SteelePegasus]

Perhaps you're better off on dr phil's forum

only if I get to be next to oprah...I would hit it

[dr.chimps]

as dogcrapp pointed out adonis just goes against the grain for the sakes of making a scene

men and women who have spent more years in school studying this topic than he has been alive. And his response to their information is "I Disagree"

he has no formal education on these matters yet he quotes scientific works from google.

Trop has explained why a calorie is not a calorie and what was adonis's response.."I disgaree"

this guy is piece of work.

TA must have been feeling generous. Most of the time when someone has got him dead to rights, he just ignores it/doesn't respond. 

[Benny B]

Can we please not loose sight of the fact that there are great benefits to interval based cardio twice or three times a week?

You don't need to do cardio to get cut, no, but if you want to improve your general health and cardiovascular system you are very much advised to do so.

Exactly

[buffbodz]

then why is being over weight so prevalent in the black community?

as with most races black have their fair share of fat asses.

One thing I've noticed is that inner city blacks eat allot of Mac Donald's.  Even little baby's with a shake instead of a bottle says allot about the eating habits they will pick up in life.  Even as adults, they use way too much saturated fats in just about everything that's good.  So, not to make it a black and white thing, but inner city blacks do have a harder time eating clean than the average suburban white, where even going to a Subway is a wiser choice.  But MD's are everywhere.

Super Size Me was on MSNBC Sunday Watching Morgan eat Mac Donald's for a month, while his weight went up and his health went down made me think about eating their and that was for only 30 days.  Their were a few people over watching it and even the ones who ate at MD's even once or twice a week showed and not for the better.

[Mr. Michael Moore]

 
So, if your hypocaloric diet contains nutrients that will potentiate the release of insulin in any large amount, fat utilization will be blunted, even if the total caloric intake over that given time is below your metabolic rate for that given time. 

BINGO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Finally a truly knowledgeable guy to put to death Adonis' ridiculous bullshit claims about 'his' diet.....

Trop, thank you very much for your contribution to this board. We need more like you on a daily basis, instead of the usual pieces of shit like Adonis and his gimmicks buddies. Keep on delievering, man !

[Disgusted]

As Trop has said there really is no argument here. TA says that as long as your calories are below maintenance that you will lose weight regardless of insulin response and this is true. Trop says that fatloss will be blunted in the presence of insulin even when cals are below maintenance. Key word "BLUNTED" thus proving that a calorie is not a calorie. So, both of them are correct in their arguement.

[Disgusted]

Maybe thats the new internet....if you say "you really dont need the heart as an organ" enough times over and over....some people will believe it.

OK, you don't really need your heart as an organ. http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/361/15101_heart.html   

[The True Adonis]

As Trop has said there really is no argument here. TA says that as long as your calories are below maintenance that you will lose weight regardless of insulin response and this is true. Trop says that fatloss will be blunted in the presence of insulin even when cals are below maintenance. Key word "BLUNTED" thus proving that a calorie is not a calorie. So, both of them are correct in their arguement.

He is incorrect in that he cannot ascertain what "Blunted" means. 

Until he does that, his argument is as useless as combing the desert with a pitchfork.


A calorie WILL ALWAYS be a Calorie.   1.0000000000000000000000 0000003 Calories will always equal 1.0000000000000000000000 0000003.


Where Troponin is confused and I have already agreed is that A protein is not a carb.  A Protein is not a fat.  A Carb is not a Protein.  A Carb is not a fat.  A fat is not a Protein.  A fat is not a carb.

A calorie will always be a calorie though.

This simple bit of logic has evaded Troponin and just about every single person trying to argue.

[The True Adonis]

As Trop has said there really is no argument here. TA says that as long as your calories are below maintenance that you will lose weight regardless of insulin response and this is true. Trop says that fatloss will be blunted in the presence of insulin even when cals are below maintenance. Key word "BLUNTED" thus proving that a calorie is not a calorie. So, both of them are correct in their arguement.

Furthermore I have been looking at Troponin`s diets or those that have been claiming to use his methods, and if you do the math and use the GI/GL index, his diets elicit way more insulin response than my methods.

Pretty interesting.  But he should not be concerned as GI/GL index anyway.

[The Squadfather]

Furthermore I have been looking at Troponin`s diets or those that have been claiming to use his methods, and if you do the math and use the GI/GL index, his diets elicit way more insulin response than my methods.

Pretty interesting.  But he should not be concerned as GI/GL index anyway.

hahaha, exactly, he probably believes that potatoes have a lower GI index rating than potato chips, brutal delusions.

[The True Adonis]

One thing I've noticed is that inner city blacks eat allot of Mac Donald's.  Even little baby's with a shake instead of a bottle says allot about the eating habits they will pick up in life.  Even as adults, they use way too much saturated fats in just about everything that's good.  So, not to make it a black and white thing, but inner city blacks do have a harder time eating clean than the average suburban white, where even going to a Subway is a wiser choice.  But MD's are everywhere.

Super Size Me was on MSNBC Sunday Watching Morgan eat Mac Donald's for a month, while his weight went up and his health went down made me think about eating their and that was for only 30 days.  Their were a few people over watching it and even the ones who ate at MD's even once or twice a week showed and not for the better.

It is more of a genetic thing with blacks.  They have better genetics to survive a famine as their African enviroment weeded out individuals incapable via natural selection.
Their women are fat storage machines.

[Disgusted]

He is incorrect in that he cannot ascertain what "Blunted" means. 

Until he does that, his argument is as useless as combing the desert with a pitchfork.


A calorie WILL ALWAYS be a Calorie.   1.0000000000000000000000 0000003 Calories will always equal 1.0000000000000000000000 0000003.


Where Troponin is confused and I have already agreed is that A protein is not a carb.  A Protein is not a fat.  A Carb is not a Protein.  A Carb is not a fat.  A fat is not a Protein.  A fat is not a carb.

A calorie will always be a calorie though.

This simple bit of logic has evaded Troponin and just about every single person trying to argue.

Just because he did not define blunted does not mean that he is incorrect, but I suppose he will read this and do so.

Stating that a cal is a cal is a general term I know. So I will define it better and say the the bodies metabolism responds differently to each of the 3 macronutrients.

[The True Adonis]

Just because he did not define blunted does not mean that he is incorrect, but I suppose he will read this and do so.

Stating that a cal is a cal is a general term I know. So I will define it better and say the the bodies metabolism responds differently to each of the 3 macronutrients.

I think I made that clear early on as well.

He is incorrect in that he cannot define "blunted" accurately.

And as I said, I looked at some individuals purportedly under his tutelage and have found that his methods elicit a HIGHER insulin response than my methods do.

I would like for him to provide a sample diet, and I will do the same.

I will easily show him the remarkable difference.

[SteelePegasus]

One thing I've noticed is that inner city blacks eat allot of Mac Donald's.  Even little baby's with a shake instead of a bottle says allot about the eating habits they will pick up in life.  Even as adults, they use way too much saturated fats in just about everything that's good.  So, not to make it a black and white thing, but inner city blacks do have a harder time eating clean than the average suburban white, where even going to a Subway is a wiser choice.  But MD's are everywhere.

Super Size Me was on MSNBC Sunday Watching Morgan eat Mac Donald's for a month, while his weight went up and his health went down made me think about eating their and that was for only 30 days.  Their were a few people over watching it and even the ones who ate at MD's even once or twice a week showed and not for the better.

lol, I had a tripple quarter pounder with cheese today....tripple meat for $4.00

A literally felt my heart beat skip with each bite..The mr.getbig was pushed back..that was celebration meal after dieting for 6 weeks 

[The True Adonis]

lol, I had a tripple quarter pounder with cheese today....tripple meat for $4.00

A literally felt my heart beat skip with each bite..The mr.getbig was pushed back..that was celebration meal after dieting for 6 weeks 

You could eat that everyday and be prefectly healthy with ZERO gain in bodyfat.

[SteelePegasus]

You could eat that everyday and be prefectly healthy with ZERO gain in bodyfat.

the last time someone listened to a snake looked what happened!!!!

[Necrosis]

I agree it is a waste of time to distort Science and cite snippets of unproven theoretical nonsense that you would need a decoder ring from Kellogg`s in order to  decipher the point and question.  Troponin should know better than that.
It has been a waste of time for all of us.

hahahaaha your super ignorant my friend.


attn anyone who is in school drop out adonis has found some articles on the internet ahahhaahahahahahahah

everything trop said is true, you are good at promoting yourself although i dont think you'll ever make anything out. people can see how your doing it and it annoys people.

[Necrosis]

DISGUSTED do you agree with what adonis is saying,honestly.


youve already stated the opposite of his theory already(1.5 grams protein per pound).

[Disgusted]

DISGUSTED do you agree with what adonis is saying,honestly.


youve already stated the opposite of his theory already(1.5 grams protein per pound).

I came back in a later post and said 1.25. The problem is that I have been doing this so long that I almost never calculate things out, I almost always do it in my head. So when I checked with one of my diets it came out to be around 1.25.

As far as TA it depends on what you are talking about. If you can tell me specifically what it is you are refereing to I will answer. To be honest I have never seen a sample diet of his and I asked him in an earlier post what his theories are but I never got a response.

[Necrosis]

DISGUSTED
here are a few if you wouldnt mind commenting

1)mcdonalds is a healthy food, very nutritious and one can eat it all the time and still be healthy.

2)cookies, chocolate,cake etc are all that is needed to diet, since a calorie is a calorie you dont have to eat veggies, steak etc the cake and steak will be processed the same way.

3)its near impossible to lose muscle as long as you lift weights, regardless of diet.

4)all calories are processed the same way by the body

5)high protein diest are a myth and not needed to maintain muscle.

thanks disgusted.