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Eat like a Strongman
Dr. Franco Colombu, former Mr. Everything and costar of ‘Pumping Iron,’ on what really works

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Franco Columbu, former Mr. Everything, says, “Hey, you, eat a bagel!”



ack when he was considered one of the World’s Strongest Men, renowned bodybuilder Franco Columbu would bench press 520 pounds, dead lift 750, and squat 655. He bent a bar across his face in one contest, carried a refrigerator on his back in another, power-lifted a car, and blew into a hot water bottle ’til it exploded like a party balloon, spraying water all over the audience.

He hasn’t carried a refrigerator in years, but his imprint on body culture is indelible. Today, at 54, Dr. Franco Columbu is a Los Angeles chiropractor, nutritionist, and trainer who has cowritten several health and fitness books, including Weight Training and Bodybuilding: A Complete Guide for Young Athletes (with Richard Tyler, D.C.); Franco Columbu’s Complete Book of Bodybuilding (with a foreword by Arnold Schwarzenegger); and The Bodybuilder’s Nutrition Book (with Lydia Fragomeni).

Most people will recognize Columbu as the muscleman posing next to Arnold Schwarzenegger in one of the greatest guy flicks ever, the 1977 documentary Pumping Iron. That body-fetish classic followed these guys through daily workout regimens that included five hours a day in the gym, ballet classes for posing techniques, and humongous mounds of ground beef and egg-and-tuna omelets.

A lot of cholesterol went into the making of that film. Even now, it’s not uncommon for serious weight-training programs to include as much as 200 grams of protein per day, and nearly all of it from animal sources. As a key figure in the culture since the ’70s – (he won Mr. World, Mr. Universe, and Mr. Olympia titles) – Columbu has seen the 200-gram protein diet, as well as every other extreme food fad, come and go.

Mostly, he avoided all of it. “It didn’t come out in Pumping Iron, but Arnold and I never went on those diets,” he says. “We used to eat things in front of people and theyay, ‘You eat that?’” He didn’t do the high carb, he didn’t do the low carb, and he didn’t do the “food combining” diet, either. “Remember that one? Don’t eat protein with carbohydrates. Food combining was so bad; I thought, these people are really out to lunch. How do you separate protein from string beans, pasta, potatoes, and rice? All these foods are half carbohydrate, half protein.”

Then there was the egg-white craze. “I had guests come to my house, bodybuilders, Frank Zane, Arnold, all the guys from Pumping Iron. Arnold didn’t care about egg whites. Arnold said, ‘Give me the protein and let’s go to the gym.’ So I would separate the eggs because the other guys wanted the whites. We ended up drinking the yolks.”

In the ’80s, a lot of bodybuilders switched to diets of water and meat. “Frank Zane and Lou Ferrigno, a lot of those guys believed in low carbohydrates. But we realized that some of these guys had very low energy as a result. So we went with our instincts, which was that you need protein for the body and the stored glycogen and stored fat in the body for energy. The brain needs carbohydrates.”

Columbu and Schwarzenegger were roommates during that time. Backstage before a competition, Schwarzenegger would announce, “Franco, it’s time for pizza.” They did it for the energy and also to psyche the other guys out.

Their grocery bills were huge. Columbu recalls, “Joe Weider paid us $80 a week each. We’d go to the market, and three days later all the money was gone. We’d work construction to make extra money.”

Schwarzenegger, Columbu reveals, never ate a fad diet. But he was jealous of Columbu’s even less-exclusive menu. “I could eat sweets, and this would make him angry. He’d say, ‘Oh, you. You can make muscle if you eat wood.’”





How to Eat Like a Strongman

Columbu received his degree from Cleveland Chiropractic College in 1978. He’s married and has a 10-year-old daughter, Maria. “Most of Maria’s friends are told, ‘Don’t eat this and don’t eat that.’ I say, ‘Eat the pasta.’ She eats everything. And she is in the best shape of all of her friends. What I’m saying is, to put a kid on a diet is devastating, in my opinion.”

The two-time Mr. Olympia has become a respected expert in nutrition, sports medicine, and kinesiology. He does special training programs for sports injuries, and the list of celebrities who have sought his bodybuilding advice includes Sylvester Stallone, whom Columbu made sign a contract promising that he wouldn’t even swallow a vitamin pill without seeking Columbu’s approval first.

But he doesn’t spend his whole life in the gym anymore. Columbu works out for maybe 20 minutes three times a week. He still sees Schwarzenegger all the time, but they gave up the constant training in favor of tennis. “I started playing tennis with Arnold in 1995, and we play on weekends. I mix up the sports … tennis, cycling. I like hiking.”

As to diet, he pretty much eats the same way he did when he was competing, except that he eats less (about 120 grams of protein per day). He recommends eating high-quality proteins. In order of importance, these are: eggs, fish, dairy, and meat (including poultry and pork).

Eggs are the highest quality protein, he points out, and still the most important to any fitness program. He notes that most dietary guides are wrong when they say eggs cause cholesterol problems. In fact, egg yolks contain enough of the fat emulsifier lecithin to neutralize cholesterol in other foods. Columbu cites a study: “In a group of 100 people, the first group ate eggs. The second group drank only milk. The third drank milk and ate eggs. And people thought, that third group is really going to have high cholesterol. But the eggs lowered the cholesterol, even in the group drinking milk.”

Much of Columbu’s information goes against conventional wisdom. “Let’s say you’re going to the gym at 3 p.m. Breakfast isn’t important. Bread and eggs is perfect. Lunch is when you eat a big meal with carbohydrates. Why? Because you can’t go to the gym without energy. But if you eat that for dinner and you don’t burn it, it will store as fat overnight.”

He stresses eating smaller meals and more frequently and that high-protein diets require extra Vitamin B6. Also, check the labels for sulfur dioxide, prevalent on fruits and vegetables. “You can’t digest it, and it bloats your stomach. People say they can’t eat grapes. It’s not true. It’s the sulfites.”

But the biggest tip for anyone who is looking for a flatter stomach and smaller waistline is that many folks on high-protein diets require hydrochloric acid and enzyme supplements. The body just doesn’t make enough on its own, especially past age 26.





On the Juice

It’s well known that they took steroids in the Pumping Iron days. Even Schwarzenegger has come clean about this. Fact is, they didn’t have the information back then about how dangerous the drugs are. But Columbu found that the negatives far outweighed the positives; you got big but you lost definition. And he notes that musclemen who kept using drugs eventually developed fat stomachs.

He sees those symptoms in today’s bodybuilders, some of whom are so massive they make the Pumping Iron bunch seem small. Columbu sees a lot of fat stomachs, which indicates to him that drugs are rampant. He tells young athletes and bodybuilders to stay off the juice, including Human Growth Hormone (HGH).

“Old people are trying to live longer, but young people want to win,” he explains. “Even if you tell them that they are taking something that is killing them. But … the minute you start taking these drugs, your workout stops. You will be depending on that instead of going to the gym. Once you switch your mind to depend on a secret like steroids, winning is over.”



 


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High protein has always been a scam to sell powder. It's impractical and borderline impossible to get 300 grams a day from whole foods, so you have to resort to the powder.


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The brain does not need carbs as Franco says, it needs a small amount of glucose to function. What a dumbass.

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The brain does not need carbs as Franco says, it needs a small amount of glucose to function. What a dumbass.
did you ever bench press 520 or deadlift 735, Magnum PI?

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It’s well known that they took steroids in the Pumping Iron days. Even Schwarzenegger has come clean about this. Fact is, they didn’t have the information back then about how dangerous the drugs are.
 
What information are you refering to Franco?

He sees those symptoms in today’s bodybuilders, some of whom are so massive they make the Pumping Iron bunch seem small. Columbu sees a lot of fat stomachs, which indicates to him that drugs are rampant. He tells young athletes and bodybuilders to stay off the juice, including Human Growth Hormone (HGH).

Yep, using steroids puts fat on your stomach. Without steroids Franco would not have made it out of Sardinia. This guy really is as dumb as he looks.

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did you ever bench press 520 or deadlift 735, Magnum PI?

 ::) No, so I guess that makes him smarter than me or maybe he took more steroids. Who cares.

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The brain does not need carbs as Franco says, it needs a small amount of glucose to function. What a dumbass.
Brain Energy Demand
 
  
Your brain cells need two times more energy than the other cells in your body.

Neurons, the cells that communicate with each other, have a high demand for energy because they're always in a state of metabolic activity. Even during sleep, neurons are still at work repairing and rebuilding their worn out structural components.

They are manufacturing enzymes and neurotransmitters that must be transported out to the very ends of their– nerve branches, some that can be several inches, or feet, away.

Most demanding of a neuron's energy, however, are the bioelectric signals responsible for communication throughout the nervous system. This nerve transmission consumes one-half of all the brain's energy (nearly 10% of the whole body's energy).
  

Neurons from entorhinal cortex (Limbic System)

©1998 Dr. Norberto Cysne Coimbra M.Sc., Ph.D., Laboratory of Neuroanatomy and Neuropsychobiology, Faculty of Medicine of Ribeirão Preto of the University of são Paulo; Neuroscience Art Galleries

 Most of us have discovered that thinking can be tiring, even exhausting. As the primary source of energy in the human brain, glucose can be rapidly used up during mental activity.

Some interesting research has shown that mental concentration actually drains glucose from a key part of the brain associated with memory and learning – underscoring just how crucial this blood sugar is for proper brain function.

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Glucose, Learning and Memory - Study    
  
Psychology professor Paul E. Gold has researched the stability of glucose levels in the brain. Working with Ewan C. McNay , they found that as rats went through a maze, concentrations of glucose declined in the animals' hippocampus , a key brain area involved in learning and memory – even more dramatically so in older brains.

Except under conditions of starvation, it was thought that the brain always had an ample supply of glucose. "While this is the case in terms of consciousness, the new findings suggest that glucose is not always present in ample amounts to optimally support learning and memory functions," said Gold, who is director of the Medical Scholars Program in the University of Illinois College of Medicine.
   "The brain runs on glucose. Young rats can do a pretty good job of supplying all the glucose that a particular area of the brain needs until the task becomes difficult," explained McNay, a postdoctoral researcher in psychology at Yale University. "For an old rat given the same task, the brain glucose supply vanishes out the window. This correlates with a big deficit in performance. A lack of fuel affects the ability to think and remember."

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Glucose, Age, Memory and Learning - Study
  
In the May 2001 issue of Neurobiology of Learning and Memory, Gold, and McNay reported that glucose drainage during a task is specific to the hippocampus, where extracellular levels fell by 30%. (Other brain areas remained stable.) "Only the part of the brain involved with what the animal is asked to do is affected by changes in glucose usage," Gold said.-Not sure how study relates to other study about age, memory and learning.

In the May 2001 issue of the Journal of Gerontology, Gold and McNay described a study which showed how 24-month-old rats experienced a 48% decline in hippocampal extracellular glucose levels, and needed 30 minutes to recover from a maze-related task. Younger, three-month-old rats had only a 12% decline and recovered quickly. When older rats were injected with glucose supplements prior to testing, they did not show the drainage of glucose – and performed at the same levels as the younger rats.
   "Glucose enhances learning and memory not only in rats but also in many populations of humans," says Gold. "For schoolchildren, this research implies that the contents and timing of meals may need to be coordinated to have the most beneficial cognitive effects that enhance learning."

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How Carbohydrate Foods Can Improve Memory in Older Adults - Studies  
  
When Dr. Carol Greenwood tested the memory of older adults after they ate a breakfast of mashed potatoes or barley, she found that "eating carbohydrate foods can improve memory within an hour after ingestion in healthy elderly people with relatively poor memories."

In another study, Greenwood and her colleagues at the University of Toronto gave a group of healthy senior citizens a bowl of cereal and milk, along with white grape juice for breakfast. Another group only drank water. When tested twenty minutes later, the cereal-eaters had a better memory – able to remember 25% more facts.
   Not only does a diet lacking in carbohydrates cut off the brain's main energy supply, Greenwood said a scarcity of glucose can impede the synthesis of acetylcholine, one of the brain's key neurotransmitters.1

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Breakfast and Memory - Studies
  
Regardless of the source, caloric intake after an overnight fast can cause a short burst in memory capacity, scientists discovered. Carbohydrates, however, generally brought longer-term memory benefits than either fats or proteins in the people tested.

Lead scientist, Dr. Carol Greenwood, emphasized the advantage of nutritious carbohydrates – fruits, vegetables, and whole grains – instead of simple sugars such as pastries. Her studies point to the importance of children's breakfasts to school performance. 2

Another University of Toronto study compared the memory-improving effects of different breakfasts eaten after an overnight fast. Participants who consumed a carbohydrate breakfast of potatoes or barley performed better on short- and long-term memory tests, compared to those who consumed only a glucose-laden lemon drink. Both groups did better than the participants who consumed only an inactive placebo.
   "Our study showed that eating carbohydrate foods can improve memory within an hour after ingestion in healthy elderly people with relatively poor memories," said lead author Randall J. Kaplan. "Individuals with seemingly minor deficits in glucose regulation appear to perform worse on cognitive (memory) tests and are most sensitive to the beneficial effects of carbohydrates."3

 
 
 


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Nourish - Carbohydrates Fuel Your Brain
Glucose is the form of sugar that travels in your bloodstream to fuel the mitochondrial furnaces responsible for your brain power. Glucose is the only fuel normally used by brain cells. Because neurons cannot store glucose, they depend on the bloodstream to deliver a constant supply of this precious fuel.

 

This blood sugar is obtained from carbohydrates: the starches and sugars you eat in the form of grains and legumes, fruits and vegetables. (The only animal foods containing a significant amount of carbohydrates are dairy products.)

Too much sugar or refined carbohydrates at one time, however, can actually deprive your brain of glucose – depleting its energy supply and compromising your brain's power to concentrate, remember, and learn. Mental activity requires a lot of energy.

 

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Eat like a Strongman
Dr. Franco Colombu, former Mr. Everything and costar of ‘Pumping Iron,’ on what really works

~ By ANNETTE STARK ~

 
“Old people are trying to live longer, but young people want to win,” he explains. “Even if you tell them that they are taking something that is killing them. But … the minute you start taking these drugs, your workout stops. You will be depending on that instead of going to the gym. Once you switch your mind to depend on a secret like steroids, winning is over.”



 


Funny cause he lies big time............ he hade to take roids to win the ''o''
when was this wrote down or when did he said that 10-15 years ago?

another ex-bodybuilder who wants to look clean!
are you delusional?

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What I said still holds true.

Although the brain represents only a small percentage of body weight, it uses between twenty and fifty percent of all the resting energy used by the body. Fortunately the brain can also use ketone bodies derived from fats. During fasting in humans, and when we are short of food, blood glucose levels are maintained by the breakdown of glycogen in liver and muscle and by the production of glucose primarily from the breakdown of muscle proteins in a process called gluconeogenesis, which literally means ‘glucose new birth.

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Yep, using steroids puts fat on your stomach. Without steroids Franco would not have made it out of Sardinia. This guy really is as dumb as he looks.
Well, I'm sure you know steroids can contribute to visceral fat as well. They can reduce insulin sensitivity. If your diet is crappy steroids can contribute to a big belly - lots of people have had "roid bellies".

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franco is a loser, he once said that if sly didnt get into shape for Rambo II the studio was going to look for another actor..hahahahahahaha

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Calm Down now everyone..


Read a little closer, it say's he eats 120 grams of protein now, at 60 years of age.  30 years ago, you could have doubled that.[/color]
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Well, I'm sure you know steroids can contribute to visceral fat as well. They can reduce insulin sensitivity. If your diet is crappy steroids can contribute to a big belly - lots of people have had "roid bellies".

If your diet is crappy "food" will contribute to a fat belly.

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So, what the fuck is the point of this topic then?

So TA can keep trying to sell his "Adonis Principles", an idea he didn't come up with but seems to think he did. It's a good idea, tried and true sure. Good for bodybuilding? No. Good for healthy living? Maybe.

 I've heard "a calorie is a calorie" ever since gradeschool science class, and most people know if you lessen your calorie intake you will lose weight. WEIGHT being fat, muscle, and fluids. During highschool wrestling, if someone needed to lose weight for the next meet, the coach would say "eat less, drink less water" then would run us into the ground. My point? I'm tired of hearing this same thing over and over. You didn't come up with the diet and you don't have the certification to advise other people on their diet. That being said, I think if people are coming to you, as you say, for advice on how to lose weight, this would be the way to do it. If they come up to you and want to lose JUST FAT, I'd turn them away to someone else. It's interesting though that TA says you can eat whatever you want (such as doghnuts and the like), since that is a bad idea in itself. If someone was put on a diet of only bad food, what do you think would be the result? Protein defficiency, vitamin defficiency, other ailments... the list is large.

Sorry, I started to ramble. Anyway, my point is that people need to start thinking for themselves and not what some over the hill ex bodybuilder thinks, since he's being a hypocrite. "Don't take steroids, but it's okay that I did"? What a joke. "I won contests because of steroids, but you won't." I can smell the bullshit eminating from my speakers.

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during the late 60s and all through the 70s franco popped 20-30 tablets of var a day and 10-20 russians a day,,why not? it was legal and no one knew a from z ,,,it was like vitamins

the russians are very hard to get now days,,legit ones that is,,but in franco days the russians were the shit,,,they woulld blow you up like nothing else,,those russians put some methyl test with the dianabol in the tablet and it would blow the shit out of you while getting you agressive as fuck

those were good days for bodybuilding,,,drugs were a lot a lot a lot more acceptable and common to use
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So, what the f**k is the point of this topic then?

So TA can keep trying to sell his "Adonis Principles", an idea he didn't come up with but seems to think he did. It's a good idea, tried and true sure. Good for bodybuilding? No. Good for healthy living? Maybe.

 I've heard "a calorie is a calorie" ever since gradeschool science class, and most people know if you lessen your calorie intake you will lose weight. WEIGHT being fat, muscle, and fluids. During highschool wrestling, if someone needed to lose weight for the next meet, the coach would say "eat less, drink less water" then would run us into the ground. My point? I'm tired of hearing this same thing over and over. You didn't come up with the diet and you don't have the certification to advise other people on their diet. That being said, I think if people are coming to you, as you say, for advice on how to lose weight, this would be the way to do it. If they come up to you and want to lose JUST FAT, I'd turn them away to someone else. It's interesting though that TA says you can eat whatever you want (such as doghnuts and the like), since that is a bad idea in itself. If someone was put on a diet of only bad food, what do you think would be the result? Protein defficiency, vitamin defficiency, other ailments... the list is large.

Sorry, I started to ramble. Anyway, my point is that people need to start thinking for themselves and not what some over the hill ex bodybuilder thinks, since he's being a hypocrite. "Don't take steroids, but it's okay that I did"? What a joke. "I won contests because of steroids, but you won't." I can smell the bullshit eminating from my speakers.

You obviously missed my Formula which determines how much somebody can eat before gaining a gram of fat.

It also will predict to the very minute if you would like, how you are going to look in any given time frame.  You can use this to reach a goal, bodybuilding contest, Wanting to get 3 percent bodyfat, weight for boxing etc...

IT also predicts EXACTLY how many calories you need to ingest for muscle gain.

It does this for ALL AGES,Levels of Fitness, Metabolism....ANYONE!

Its beautiful....Takes the guess work out of all of it.  The best thing is, you don`t need to eat special foods.  Eat what you like.

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No, I didn't "miss" your formula. I've never seen you post it, which leads me to believe it doesn't exist.

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So, what the f**k is the point of this topic then?

So TA can keep trying to sell his "Adonis Principles", an idea he didn't come up with but seems to think he did. It's a good idea, tried and true sure. Good for bodybuilding? No. Good for healthy living? Maybe.

 I've heard "a calorie is a calorie" ever since gradeschool science class, and most people know if you lessen your calorie intake you will lose weight. WEIGHT being fat, muscle, and fluids. During highschool wrestling, if someone needed to lose weight for the next meet, the coach would say "eat less, drink less water" then would run us into the ground. My point? I'm tired of hearing this same thing over and over. You didn't come up with the diet and you don't have the certification to advise other people on their diet. That being said, I think if people are coming to you, as you say, for advice on how to lose weight, this would be the way to do it. If they come up to you and want to lose JUST FAT, I'd turn them away to someone else. It's interesting though that TA says you can eat whatever you want (such as doghnuts and the like), since that is a bad idea in itself. If someone was put on a diet of only bad food, what do you think would be the result? Protein defficiency, vitamin defficiency, other ailments... the list is large.

Sorry, I started to ramble. Anyway, my point is that people need to start thinking for themselves and not what some over the hill ex bodybuilder thinks, since he's being a hypocrite. "Don't take steroids, but it's okay that I did"? What a joke. "I won contests because of steroids, but you won't." I can smell the bullshit eminating from my speakers.

At the end of the day, the key to bodybuilding success is finding out what YOUR body needs to recover and grow and feed it that, accordingly. Some need more carbs; others need more protein; still others need more fat.

As the saying goes, "one man's poison is another man's meat". A high-carb diet may get trainer "A" in great shape, while turning trainer "B" into a porcine blimp. A high-protein diet, on the other hand, make keep trainer "A" looking like a twig, while trainer "B" ends up swole.

Why Adonis insists on such blubbering about high-protein diets is beyond me. No, they aren't for everyone. But, that doesn't mean they aren't for anyone. As one of my favorite magazine writers once said, "One type of diet and one type of training CANNOT and WILL NOT build a championship body".

And, how on Earth is he making his case by giving the current protein intake of a RETIRED bodybuilder, who hasn't competed in over TWENTY YEARS?

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At the end of the day, the key to bodybuilding success is finding out what YOUR body needs to recover and grow and feed it that, accordingly. Some need more carbs; others need more protein; still others need more fat.

As the saying goes, "one man's poison is another man's meat". A high-carb diet may get trainer "A" in great shape, while turning trainer "B" into a porcine blimp. A high-protein diet, on the other hand, make keep trainer "A" looking like a twig, while trainer "B" ends up swole.

Why Adonis insists on such blubbering about high-protein diets is beyond me. No, they aren't for everyone. But, that doesn't mean they aren't for anyone. As one of my favorite magazine writers once said, "One type of diet and one type of training CANNOT and WILL NOT build a championship body".

And, how on Earth is he making his case by giving the current protein intake of a RETIRED bodybuilder, who hasn't competed in over TWENTY YEARS?

Reread the article dummy.

He says he does the same diet as he did then.


Also, High Protein diets aren`t for anybody.

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As to diet, he pretty much eats the same way he did when he was competing, except that he eats less (about 120 grams of protein per day).


What