Author Topic: Bob Chick: Your COMMENTS on Franco`s Statement? (Read 8515 times)

The True Adonis · « **on:** January 30, 2007, 05:13:31 PM »

Bob,

Well done on the radio show first off. What I want to know is what are your comments in regards to Franco`s assesment of GH and Insulin as well as the high usage of other Drugs ruining bodybuilding.

Do you agree or disagree and what are your thoughts?

In an ideal situation, what would you like to see happen regarding this issue? The continuation of such usage?

Chick · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:20:21 PM »

I agree 100%...The direction the judging goes will dictate where the BBers go...much like womens BB, If the judges keep rewarding a physique that isnt marketable...then mens BB will meet the same fate.

Reward a small waist with higher placings...mark down for GH gut, etc....seems simple to me.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:21:44 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 30, 2007, 05:20:21 PM

I agree 100%...The direction the judging goes will dictate where the BBers go...much like womens BB, If the judges keep rewarding a physique that isnt marketable...then mens BB will meet the same fate.

Reward a small waist with higher placings...mark down for GH gut, etc....seems simple to me.

I don`t agree.

There is nobody showing up looking like An Arnold or a Zane, Sergio.

They are just judging whatever crap is coming their way. And the majority of it is crap.

ribonucleic · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:23:55 PM »

If there are any reliable indications that Dexter Jackson would be more marketable than Ronnie Coleman [other than being able to speak English], I haven't seen them.

Bodybuilding is a hobby of and for freaks. "Real" people understand this instinctively. No one is fooling them with a narrow waist.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:24:47 PM »

Do you also agree that GH and Insulin are doing more harm than good?

Chick · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:25:41 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on January 30, 2007, 05:24:47 PM

Do you also agree that GH and Insulin are doing more harm than good?

without question...

Chick · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:28:08 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on January 30, 2007, 05:21:44 PM

I don`t agree.

There is nobody showing up looking like An Arnold or a Zane, Sergio.

They are just judging whatever crap is coming their way. And the majority of it is crap.

bullshit...Melvin, Phil, Dex, Toney, Dugdale, Troy, Ahmed, Rockel, Wolf, etc......all have small waists and nice aesthetic lines...

The True Adonis · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:30:05 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 30, 2007, 05:25:41 PM

without question...

You are the man!

The True Adonis · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:30:41 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 30, 2007, 05:28:08 PM

bullshit...Melvin, Phil, Dex, Toney, Dugdale, Troy, Ahmed, Rockel, Wolf, etc......all have small waists and nice aesthetic lines...

Not like Arnold,Sergio or Zane. Not even close.

Chick · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:40:11 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on January 30, 2007, 05:30:41 PM

Not like Arnold,Sergio or Zane. Not even close.

were not comparing one era to the other...all things being relative, there are plenty of guys with small waists, etc.

Debussey · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:46:36 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 30, 2007, 05:40:11 PM

were not comparing one era to the other...all things being relative, there are plenty of guys with small waists, etc.

Debussey get the feeling that you are a pretty smart guy Chick.

Ever tested your IQ? Did you get good grades in school?

YoungBlood · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:56:06 PM »

I think Adonis is just trying to turn this into another one of his "holier than thou" threads.

Buttsuck · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:56:32 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 30, 2007, 05:28:08 PM

bullshit...Melvin, Phil, Dex, Toney, Dugdale, Troy, Ahmed, Rockel, Wolf, etc......all have small waists and nice aesthetic lines...

Dugdale??? Toney?? ROFLMAO!!!!! Bob... they need to drop the ridiculous X-Frame judging. Judging by criteria is what fucked this mess up to begin with. "DEEEEEEEEEEHHHEEEEEE MAYBE IF I SPREAD MY LEGS OUT FURTHER AND FLARE MY ARMS OUT TO PARALLEL TO THE GROUND ILL MAKE A BETTER X-FRAME. DEDEEEEEERRRUUUURUURRRRR RRRRRRRRR"

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2007, 06:02:16 PM »

Franco may have a point about physiques deteriorating in many ways today, but it's a bit irritating when the old timers always think everything was better in their day. I'm sure many felt Franco winning with legs that looked like sausages and massive gyno was a "bad for bodybuilding". Franco was probably regarded as a mass monster and steroid abuser in his day.

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:08:46 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 30, 2007, 05:25:41 PM

without question...

Possibly the most honest answer I've heard from a pro!

AVBG · « **Reply #15 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:17:19 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on January 30, 2007, 07:08:46 PM

Possibly the most honest answer I've heard from a pro!

true.

Pollux · « **Reply #16 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:24:47 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 30, 2007, 05:28:08 PM

bullshit...Melvin, Phil, Dex, Toney, Dugdale, Troy, Ahmed, Rockel, Wolf, etc......all have small waists and nice aesthetic lines...

You can take Dex out of the equation. His "abs" are beginning to protrude.

schwarzenpecker · « **Reply #17 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:25:48 PM »

Chick, instead of being pc and saying the 1981 Mr. Olympia was controversial, you should've asked Franco, HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE FACT THAT YOU WON BY 6 POINTS WITH HALF YOUR BODY MIA?

HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO WIN 2 MR. OLYMPIA'S WITHOUT ANY SEPARATION IN YOUR QUADS?

DO YOU FEEL THAT LEGS SHOULDN'T BE GIVEN AS HIGH A PRIORITY IN JUDGING AS LONG AS THE UPPER BODY IS IN SHAPE?

AVBG · « **Reply #18 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:29:50 PM »

Quote from: schwarzenpecker on January 30, 2007, 07:25:48 PM

Chick, instead of being pc and saying the 1981 Mr. Olympia was controversial, you should've asked Franco, HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE FACT THAT YOU WON BY 6 POINTS WITH HALF YOUR BODY MIA? DO YOU FEEL THAT LEGS SHOULDN'T BE JUDGED AS LONG AS THE UPPER BODY IS IN SHAPE?

IMO bringing that up specifically with Franco would have been pointless. The competitor presents themselves to the judges and the judges make the call, the competitors need not explain nothin...

Pollux · « **Reply #19 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:30:48 PM »

Actually, what Chick SHOULD HAVE asked him was that when Franco made the comment about Tom Platz being given first place because the judge was his friend, how does he explain Arnold getting first place from virtually every judge who was his "friend" at the 1980 Mr. Olympia.

I'm sure that would've been taboo though.

Chick · « **Reply #20 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:32:15 PM »

There's a fine line with being PC, putting a man on the spot, trying to publically embarass, and showing some class, being respecful and maintaining proper decorum when asking questions to a legend of our sport....

The last thing we are trying to do is put someone on the spot, or publicly humiliate anyone...it's not good radio and would lend greatly to getting fewer and less "star appeal" on the show....we ask tough questions, but fair ones and it shows with our continued and growing support of the show.

schwarzenpecker · « **Reply #21 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:34:06 PM »

Quote from: AVBG on January 30, 2007, 07:29:50 PM

IMO bringing that up specifically with Franco would have been pointless. The competitor presents themselves to the judges and the judges make the call, the competitors need not explain nothin...

If Franco doesn't want to explain why his flaws don't matter then it's a boring interview. Every long winded story he told I've already read about in Arnold's books.

vinnyvee · « **Reply #22 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:40:51 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 30, 2007, 05:20:21 PM

I agree 100%...The direction the judging goes will dictate where the BBers go...much like womens BB, If the judges keep rewarding a physique that isnt marketable...then mens BB will meet the same fate.

Reward a small waist with higher placings...mark down for GH gut, etc....seems simple to me.

Nah,,,,c'mon man. Reward the freaks! Gut shmut.....I say keep pushin it brothers. You look at some shots of Coleman from the side watching his torso expand like a prego lady 8 months along, then theres Ruhl hell even our boy Jay w/his better than average "control" can let it flow from time to time. Point is all these men are close. They have pushed the envelope and it shows. The sport could very well detioriate before a true, true meanace of mass hits the stage. I mean some insane fool that has literaly went above and beyond all things nature will allow. And until this freak steps out there dying w/each breath,,,,,REWARD OUR FREAKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pollux · « **Reply #23 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:43:33 PM »

Quote from: Chick on January 30, 2007, 07:32:15 PM

There's a fine line with being PC, putting a man on the spot, trying to publically embarass, and showing some class, being respecful and maintaining proper decorum when asking questions to a legend of our sport....

The last thing we are trying to do is put someone on the spot, or publicly humiliate anyone...it's not good radio and would lend greatly to getting fewer and less "star appeal" on the show....we ask tough questions, but fair ones and it shows with our continued and growing support of the show.

I get what you're saying, Chick, and that's true. But you got to admit, there must've been some burning question(s) you wanted to ask, but couldn't.

I'm sure if you did, Franco would've ran to Arnold, told his experience on PBW, and Arnold would've cancelled. Wouldn't want that.

AVBG · « **Reply #24 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:46:20 PM »

Quote from: schwarzenpecker on January 30, 2007, 07:34:06 PM

If Franco doesn't want to explain why his flaws don't matter then it's a boring interview. Every long winded story he told I've already read about in Arnold's books.

Bodybuilders are the same in any generation.. they're great.. just ask them! I wish I had a dollar for everytime you hear that a BB is in their all time best condition in leading up to a show. As if Franco is going to say that he didn't deserve the win and his legs due to injury were below standard

Keep in mind with guests of Franco and Arnold's calibur, I am sure they could be doing other things than appearing on a BB show.. They don't need to keep a career in the news.