Some 9/11 enjoyment boys. Satire on the doubtful conspiracy

[240 is Back]

I am a moderate republican.  I voted for Bush twice and even converted some dems.  Remember when he ran on the conservative, isolationist platform, talking "we're not about nation building".

So much for that.  The new neoconservative element has taken over and they are NOT representative of all republicans.  You can see that on the news every night as more and more Repubs split from Bush on issues like the war.

[Cap]

I like this angle where you underestimate their ability

Let's see...
The govt is capable of running the following things with no problem>
---a nation of 300 million
---all power, energy, water, finance, police, growth, information, education, labor, food, and other aspects life to death, for those 300 million people
---several overseas conflicts as the worlds only superpower

Yet you believe they wouldn't be able to pull off making 4 planes go away and putting 3 projectiles into 3 buildings and bringing 3 down and keep a team of less than 1000 quiet?

I'm not sure your logistics are all there.  it wouldn't be that hard to have a team of overseas mercs (who believed in what they were doing) come in for 6 weeks, work like hell, then drop their planes into the sea on teh way home.   Shit man, they can run a nation but not one military op?  nahhhhh

It would not be a military op.  No soldier would do that.  Running a country and running an op like this are different.  We would not need to kill that many people to justify going to war.  if they wanted to do that they could have done something similar to the original WTC attacks and not killed people like what happened that day.  You think nobody would notice explosives being placed in these buildings?   

Mercs don't believe in anything but money.  Hope that helps.

[youandme]

Certain coincedental pictures are on all dollar bills when folded. Important to remember is that "Novus Ordo Seclorum" or New World Order is seen on them when folded. coincedence? I think not

http://www.glennbeck.com/news/05172002.shtml

[240 is Back]

It would not be a military op.  No soldier would do that.  Running a country and running an op like this are different.  We would not need to kill that many people to justify going to war.  if they wanted to do that they could have done something similar to the original WTC attacks and not killed people like what happened that day.  You think nobody would notice explosives being placed in these buildings?  

1.  Pakistan's CIA (the ISI) sent $100k to Atta a few days before the attacks.  You could have had a team of 200 (very willing!) paki special operatives arrive 6 weeks before, worked nights and weekends, and got the job done.  There were reports of odd power downs.  The elevators were down.  Weird drills right before.  people found concrete powder all over.  Loud machinery on several floors which were  supposedly vacant.  Teams of people in jumpsuits that last weekend with huge spools of cable "upgrading the internet". 

This is all documented in 911 Mysteries

Here's your justification, plain and simple:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=124362.msg1777314#msg1777314

[Dos Equis]

I am a moderate republican. 

You said you were a libertarian. 

[OzmO]

I like this angle where you underestimate their ability

You like this angle because it's a topic that is easily argued without facts.

[OzmO]

And 240  is jumping topic again !


stick to the WTC7, 240..................or has facts and logic prevented you again?


Answer my question 240,  or are you ducking it once again?

[240 is Back]

And 240  is jumping topic again !
stick to the WTC7, 240..................or has facts and logic prevented you again?
Answer my question 240,  or are you ducking it once again?

You're being a prick.  I already said I'll debate what you wish on WTC7.  It fell symmetrically from unsymmetrical fires.  it's a load of shit, but ozmo and cap aren't going to do anything but defend their entrenched positions *which their own govt won't even defend!*, so hell, let's talk the logistical issues.

[Cap]

1.  Pakistan's CIA (the ISI) sent $100k to Atta a few days before the attacks.  You could have had a team of 200 (very willing!) paki special operatives arrive 6 weeks before, worked nights and weekends, and got the job done.  There were reports of odd power downs.  The elevators were down.  Weird drills right before.  people found concrete powder all over.  Loud machinery on several floors which were  supposedly vacant.  Teams of people in jumpsuits that last weekend with huge spools of cable "upgrading the internet". 

This is all documented in 911 Mysteries

Here's your justification, plain and simple:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=124362.msg1777314#msg1777314

Once again, Mercs do not equal Soldiers, period.  They only value money.  That is why they would be great in Iraq but no SOLDIER would do this kind of job. 

[OzmO]

You're being a prick.  I already said I'll debate what you wish on WTC7.  It fell symmetrically from unsymmetrical fires.  it's a load of shit, but ozmo and cap aren't going to do anything but defend their entrenched positions *which their own govt won't even defend!*, so hell, let's talk the logistical issues.

now you are getting pissed because you can't answer a logical question?

so instead you jump issues.

You are such a big fucking cry baby.

grow up.


You are making claims based on incomplete facts and you can't even answer simple questions.

when you can handle a REAL debate on REAL facts then come back.

[Cap]

The bottom line is you have no facts on WTC 7 and neither do I so I would look pretty stupid arguing a point on which I have no knowledge.  All I am saying is there are possibilities that some people wish to ignore and say:

 "Demolition for sure."

"You're right 240"

"Damn government."

I really hope you all never experience a bad earthquake because God knows if some structural damage is done to a building and the building next to it collapses, the government will certainly be involved.  You see one side of the building, hardly enough evidence to make the great leaps some are willing to make.

[OzmO]

Oh another thing.....


excuse the fuck out of me for letting you know just how full shit you are 240 on this 9/11 bull crap.

[240 is Back]

Once again, Mercs do not equal Soldiers, period.  They only value money.  That is why they would be great in Iraq but no SOLDIER would do this kind of job. 

A team of 200 men from pakistan's military/ISI could have carried out the 3 building wirings in 6 weeks.

I don't think the guilt would have kept them up at night

And with the 2.3 trillion missing from the Pentagon, something tells me they could afford it.

[240 is Back]

excuse the f**k out of me for letting you know just how full shit you are 240 on this 9/11 bull crap.

You believe Bush knew and let it happen, don't you?

Sooooo *letting* 3000 die could happen...

but *making* 3000 die is an impossibility.


MMmmmmmkey.

[OzmO]

You believe Bush knew and let it happen, don't you?

Sooooo *letting* 3000 die could happen...

but *making* 3000 die is an impossibility.


MMmmmmmkey.

yes, because i don't let fantasy get in the way of common sense and facts..........but you do don't you?

which brings us back to the original question of the point you brought up.


do you have pics of all sides of wct7?

[OzmO]

A team of 200 men from pakistan's military/ISI could have carried out the 3 building wirings in 6 weeks.

I don't think the guilt would have kept them up at night

And with the 2.3 trillion missing from the Pentagon, something tells me they could afford it.

yeah,  ok, we secured transportation and logistics for 200 paki's to wire 3 buildings with explosives in down town NYC so that we could crash 2 airplanes into them and make the american public believe the planes brought them down?

OMFG......another one for the "hologram" category.

[Cap]

A team of 200 men from pakistan's military/ISI could have carried out the 3 building wirings in 6 weeks.

I don't think the guilt would have kept them up at night

And with the 2.3 trillion missing from the Pentagon, something tells me they could afford it.

Could have does not equal "Did".  I'm sure nobody would miss a bunch of Arab looking assholes sneaking around buildings 240.  this discussion is really old.  You sound very jaded at this point.  All points aside, you act like this is the first administration to ever get into a war that people stopped believing in.  Maybe if the American public had some backbone for the long haul we would accomplish something.  Maybe if queer baits stopped bitching and realize that we cannot conquer a country in a week and then leave with no loss of life.  That is the American mindset in a nut shell.

Keep ignoring basic science in terms of these collapses and I'll calling you out on them.

[240 is Back]

yeah,  ok, we secured transportation and logistics for 200 paki's to wire 3 buildings with explosives in down town NYC so that we could crash 2 airplanes into them and make the american public believe the planes brought them down?

I am only presenting a possible scenario for getting a team to wire a building without the details of chatty Americans with a conscience doing it.

[240 is Back]

Could have does not equal "Did".  I'm sure nobody would miss a bunch of Arab looking assholes sneaking around buildings 240.  this discussion is really old.  You sound very jaded at this point.  All points aside, you act like this is the first administration to ever get into a war that people stopped believing in.  Maybe if the American public had some backbone for the long haul we would accomplish something.  Maybe if queer baits stopped bitching and realize that we cannot conquer a country in a week and then leave with no loss of life.  That is the American mindset in a nut shell.

If you watched 911 Mysteries you would see many employees discussing the odd teams of men in jumpsuits, the arabs with passes to the basement, etc.

Keep ignoring basic science in terms of these collapses and I'll calling you out on them.

The laws of physics were violated 3 times on 911.  jeez it's like you haven't studied this stuff.

911 Power Hour - Very well reasoned case with undeniable facts

911 Mysteries - Focused upon why the towers fell, best case for controlled demolition

[240 is Back]

I do have a life and reading conspiracy bullshit on the internet is not one of them.

these are actually decent budget movies.  911 mysteries cost over $100k to produce and it's free to watch online.

watch interviews with employees.  they speak of the concrete powder, the machinery, the teams of men in jumpsuits with cables.

see the info on all the power downs, and how the teams spent so much time in the elevator shafts, coincidenally the place where the firefighters said the blasts originated.

You don't have to watch it.  but you won't be armed to capably debate until you know the facts.  understand that CNN has no motivation to show you how the top 20 stories violated physics laws by changing direction.

[OzmO]

I am only presenting a possible scenario for getting a team to wire a building without the details of chatty Americans with a conscience doing it.

It's not a possible scenario anymore than the planes being holograms.

Think in complete pictures.

[240 is Back]

It's not a possible scenario anymore than the planes being holograms.

Think in complete pictures.

The ISI has dont the CIA's bidding for a long time.  The ISI's top General (who had breakfast with Goass and Graham on the morning of 9/11) sent $100k to Atta right before 9/11. 

Please tell me why it isn't reasonable or even possible that a group of agents could be borrowed to carry out a mission deemed important for national longterm interests.

[OzmO]

The ISI has dont the CIA's bidding for a long time.  The ISI's top General (who had breakfast with Goass and Graham on the morning of 9/11) sent $100k to Atta right before 9/11. 

Please tell me why it isn't reasonable or even possible that a group of agents could be borrowed to carry out a mission deemed important for national longterm interests.

Not until you man up and answer the question i asked you first AND the question or 2 that will result from your answer.

Because, unlike you i don't run from questions by switching topics.

[240 is Back]

Not until you man up and answer the question i asked you first AND the question or 2 that will result from your answer.

link? i lost em.

(also i'm starting to detect a very clear emotional involvement in this argument.  That's how I was at first, too.  even with my degree in history (where I learned about false flag ops) and business (where I learned the afghan invasion saved our economy) it STILL took me a year to see the facts on 9/11.  before then, I would read them, and just call them "nonsense".  You're like a little ME

[OzmO]

link? i lost em.

(also i'm starting to detect a very clear emotional involvement in this argument.  That's how I was at first, too.  even with my degree in history (where I learned about false flag ops) and business (where I learned the afghan invasion saved our economy) it STILL took me a year to see the facts on 9/11.  before then, I would read them, and just call them "nonsense".  You're like a little ME

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