Author Topic: Would you rather be HUGE AND SHREDDED...or...SMALLER AND AESTHETIC?????????? (Read 8455 times)

GoneAway · « **Reply #50 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:14:59 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on February 08, 2007, 07:11:54 AM

Arnold had a big chest on a big torse. His ribcage was second to none. Not one guy today has a rib box that big!

Oh ok, I was talking about length of torso. Yeah, he had a killer ribcage.

alexxx · « **Reply #51 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:28:26 AM »

Quote from: LoveTheSport on February 08, 2007, 07:14:59 AM

Oh ok, I was talking about length of torso. Yeah, he had a killer ribcage.

I see. Arnold had length too just his shoulders we never on par with his chest. I don't think he ever went to heavy for them either. I think he actually injured them.

Parker · « **Reply #52 on:** February 10, 2007, 02:22:22 PM »

Quote from: LoveTheSport on February 08, 2007, 07:00:36 AM

Small chest on a long torso = not the best thing. But he made up for it in other areas.

I don't see the long torso. Lee Preist has long torso. And Dex does, due to having ligh lats. Flex's lats were pretty mid range, but his V taper was excellent.

GoneAway · « **Reply #53 on:** February 10, 2007, 10:21:22 PM »

Quote from: Parker on February 10, 2007, 02:22:22 PM

I don't see the long torso. Lee Preist has long torso. And Dex does, due to having ligh lats. Flex's lats were pretty mid range, but his V taper was excellent.

It's not freaky long and I agree about the V taper. Just looks too long for his chest in some shots or maybe his chest looks too small.

Parker · « **Reply #54 on:** February 11, 2007, 09:47:15 AM »

Quote from: LoveTheSport on February 10, 2007, 10:21:22 PM

It's not freaky long and I agree about the V taper. Just looks too long for his chest in some shots or maybe his chest looks too small.

Chest too small. If he had a JOJ chest with more lats, Flex would have been damn near perfect.

But I wouldn't mind looking like this:

rudylrichards · « **Reply #55 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:10:05 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on February 08, 2007, 06:56:00 AM

Yeah Flex didn't have a big torso and that was probably one of the biggest drawbacks to his physique. If he had the torso of Lee Haney then he would have been the best bodybuilder ever!

Does that make Haney the best of all time then?

I'd rather be huge, shredded and Aesthetic. Like Haney, Ronnie, Levrone. etc

alexxx · « **Reply #56 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:15:01 AM »

Quote from: rudylrichards on February 11, 2007, 11:10:05 AM

Does that make Haney the best of all time then?

I'd rather be huge, shredded and Aesthetic. Like Haney, Ronnie, Levrone. etc

Haney's track record speaks for itself so anything I add won't make a difference. I definetly put him in the top 5 best bodybuilders of all time. His upperbody was unmatched at his time (chest,shoulders,back,ribcage,waist). A few men have managed a more impressive build and to me they are Arnold and Sergio.

rudylrichards · « **Reply #57 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:27:48 AM »

You're absolutely right, his accomplishments speaks for itself. I personally think he's the best of all time. I wouldn't argue with someone who might have Sergio, Arnold or Ronnie as number one either. You mentioned Sergio and Arnold, who are the other two in your top five.

benjamin pearson · « **Reply #58 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:29:22 AM »

I dont think lee haney looked very good...... sorry I just dont get what people thought was so special about him

alexxx · « **Reply #59 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:36:45 AM »

Quote from: rudylrichards on February 11, 2007, 11:27:48 AM

You're absolutely right, his accomplishments speaks for itself. I personally think he's the best of all time. I wouldn't argue with someone who might have Sergio, Arnold or Ronnie as number one either. You mentioned Sergio and Arnold, who are the other two in your top five.

Flex purely because of genetics. Serge Nubret and Steve Reeves. Yeah I know it is 6 but the last two are just undeniable.

rudylrichards · « **Reply #60 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:45:15 AM »

Quote from: benjamin pearson on February 11, 2007, 11:29:22 AM

I dont think lee haney looked very good...... sorry I just dont get what people thought was so special about him

emmmmmm, where do I start. I don't think i've ever heard anyway say Haney didn't look very good. He was the bigest guy around during his era. Next to Buchanan he had the best chest to waist ratio, arguably the best symetry, every bodypart (except his hamstring and bicep peak) was a strong point. Even without a great peak he was untouchable in the double bicep pose. I think if you take the same physique that he won his 8th olypia with he'd still place top 6 today.

alexxx · « **Reply #61 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:49:55 AM »

This photo speaks for itself.

rudylrichards · « **Reply #62 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:51:08 AM »

Quote from: alexxx on February 11, 2007, 11:36:45 AM

Flex purely because of genetics. Serge Nubret and Steve Reeves. Yeah I know it is 6 but the last two are just undeniable.

Well, for Haney's sake, I'm gonna end it here with you. Two posts ago he was top 5 two post later he's down to 6th

alexxx · « **Reply #63 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:53:15 AM »

Quote from: rudylrichards on February 11, 2007, 11:51:08 AM

Well, for Haney's sake, I'm gonna end it here with you. Two posts ago he was top 5 two post later he's down to 6th

I never gave him a number.

benjamin pearson · « **Reply #64 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:54:41 AM »

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This photo speaks for itself.

WOW.... Haney does look amazing there...... Alexx just interested where would you place Shawn Ray and Dorian Yates???

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #65 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:58:58 AM »

Quote from: Parker on February 11, 2007, 09:47:15 AM

Chest too small. If he had a JOJ chest with more lats, Flex would have been damn near perfect.

But I wouldn't mind looking like this:

that pic... is what i would strive for....
thats a wicked pic...
takin nothing from nasser he was phenomenal..
but...that pic of flx in the towel.. perfect physique...

alexxx · « **Reply #66 on:** February 11, 2007, 12:01:22 PM »

Quote from: benjamin pearson on February 11, 2007, 11:54:41 AM

WOW.... Haney does look amazing there...... Alexx just interested where would you place Shawn Ray and Dorian Yates???

Top 10

rudylrichards · « **Reply #67 on:** February 11, 2007, 12:04:43 PM »

Quote from: benjamin pearson on February 11, 2007, 11:54:41 AM

WOW.... Haney does look amazing there...... Alexx just interested where would you place Shawn Ray and Dorian Yates???

Though you just said you didn't think he looked that good.

rudylrichards · « **Reply #68 on:** February 11, 2007, 12:08:15 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on February 11, 2007, 11:53:15 AM

I never gave him a number.

You're right, but if you have someone as #1, 2, 3 or 4 you wouldn't say they're in you top 5. I was going on the theory that top 5 means 5th. Whatever the case may be, I think it's fair to say we both would agree that he's "Totallee Awesome"

The Squadfather · « **Reply #69 on:** February 11, 2007, 12:08:59 PM »

i wouldn't put Haney anywhere near the top 5, arms and legs way too small for that.

pobrecito · « **Reply #70 on:** February 11, 2007, 12:11:18 PM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on February 11, 2007, 12:08:59 PM

i wouldn't put Haney anywhere near the top 5, arms and legs way too small for that.

1. Yates
2. Coleman
3. Arnold
4. Wheeler (93)
5. Ray

alexxx · « **Reply #71 on:** February 11, 2007, 12:13:32 PM »

Quote from: rudylrichards on February 11, 2007, 12:08:15 PM

You're right, but if you have someone as #1, 2, 3 or 4 you wouldn't say they're in you top 5. I was going on the theory that top 5 means 5th. Whatever the case may be, I think it's fair to say we both would agree that he's "Totallee Awesome"

You are right. It is very hard to answer a question like this because they never stood side by side on a contest stage at their all time best conditions. Nevertheless let us just say that I hold Lee Haney at the highest respect and almost a black equivalent to Arnold.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #72 on:** February 11, 2007, 12:13:45 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on February 11, 2007, 12:11:18 PM

1. Yates
2. Coleman
3. Arnold
4. Wheeler (93)
5. Ray

exactly, but as crazy as this might sound i'd put Shawn ahead of Arnold, Shawn was far more complete and better conditioned.

benjamin pearson · « **Reply #73 on:** February 11, 2007, 12:18:02 PM »

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Though you just said you didn't think he looked that good.

I said that was a good pic of him.... not that i think he was a great bodybuilder...... I dont have him top 5.... just my opinion on the subject

rudylrichards · « **Reply #74 on:** February 11, 2007, 12:31:19 PM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on February 11, 2007, 12:13:45 PM

exactly, but as crazy as this might sound i'd put Shawn ahead of Arnold, Shawn was far more complete and better conditioned.

So Haney's not top 5 because of his arms and legs. Wouldn't you have to eliminate Arnold for his legs and Dorian for having small arm also

. Haney's legs looked great from the front and his triceps were second only to Mike Christian. It's his hamstrings and bicep peak that were weak. Not arguing with you list just the logic.