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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2007, 12:10:26 AM »
You do realize that all the WSM's are rigged don't you?

The prettiest and most publically appealing competitor wins. Always. It's rigged to be that way.



Really? I mean, that guy Phil Pfister isn't appealing at all...

I thought bodybuilding was about pretty and publicly appealing... I am so out of the loop now.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2007, 04:27:06 AM »
Uh, blond, fit, tall, american, well spoken in interviews...yeah, he qualifies as "pretty".

Take Glenn Ross -- even if he was the strongest out of everyone, he'd never win (fat/ugly). They could rig the events, easy enough, so he would win, but why? The franchise would loose $$.


There is a element of truth in this.  For example, UK Strongest Man organisers never want Glen to win as it doesn't promote the sport in the way they want it. They want it to look as if relatively healthy people win, not big fatties...that doesn't look good on TV for them. Watch them add in more events that require running and endurance, makes it harder for the huge guys...

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2007, 04:51:03 AM »
oh brother, they've got a training article this month with Marius Pudzianowski and they've got a picture of him incline pressing 585, squatting 765 and shoulder pressing 405 ::) what do you guys think?
Mariusz is one of the best athlestes in the world! I believe in those numbers, he is really strong, he is not for the looks, he is 100% functional! Nevertheless I admit that you can doubt these numbers due to the lack of knowledge you have about Mariusz!
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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2007, 04:57:17 AM »
guy is very strong no doubt about that..but he wouldnt win a real wsm competition...that wasnt an endurance competition. guy is very athletic and brutally strong but not as strong as savickas.
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he won 3...
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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2007, 04:59:10 AM »
i would believe the 765 squat but not the 585 incline or the 405 standing press.

Exactly.

No fcuking way on the standing press. The incline is bullshit as well.

The squat is believable, but definitely no walk in the park for Pudzi.


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« Reply #55 on: February 19, 2007, 05:07:07 AM »
Marisuz is a shredded 285.

Savikas is pushing 350. Glen Ross is so fat it was impeding his ability to do a proper clean with the apollon'
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If Mariusz bulked up to 350, I have no doubts he would be the best in the world. Instead, he chooses to display a physique which allows him to win the WSM.

I challenge anyone to show me a better athlete in the world today than Mariusz

Correction: Savickas is around 360-370 lbs.

And I can give you three athletes who are better strongmen than Pudzi:

Savickas.

Mikhail Koklyaev. (check this clip out, one of my all-time favs)


Virastyuk.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2007, 07:02:28 AM »
 ronnie could seated military 405 for sure. in unbelivable he did 12 reps with 315 5 weeks out of competition. im sure offseason he can handle that weight.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2007, 07:12:37 AM »
You do realize that all the WSM's are rigged don't you?

The prettiest and most publically appealing competitor wins. Always. It's rigged to be that way.



I think he means various Olympias & NOC; some were obviously rigged over the years. WSM the only thing that can be said is that the events might be skewed towards power rather than brute strength, which i have no problem with-strength coupled with athleticism. Much prefer seeing Mariusz win than a 400 lb. blob who can hardly move. Mariuz could also bulk up to a blob and be closer to the others in terms of brute strength if he wanted.

A 405 lb. push-press is awesome & not far off from strict.

If Coleman loses the next Olympia, hopefull he'll try some new things including WSM before he's too old. If he gets the weight down and gets in quality prep in terms of the specific events it would be great promo for BB and for him.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2007, 07:22:45 AM »
Exactly.

No fcuking way on the standing press. The incline is bullshit as well.

The squat is believable, but definitely no walk in the park for Pudzi.


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so, Hedgehog, you don't believe  the great Mariuz can scratch 585lbs on the incline?
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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2007, 07:23:32 AM »
there was also a claim that he did a 550 behind the neck press.  


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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2007, 07:33:23 AM »
psssssssst come closer




he won 3...
hope this helps...
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i know hes has won wsm, but thats more endurance events than real pure power (relatively speaking of course). arnold classic is about real pure power.
and when he enters arnold classic he (mariusz) gets raped by savickas and others. and there is no question mariusz is an amazing athlete, but he aint worlds strongest man.

hope this helps  ;D

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2007, 07:36:06 AM »
oh brother, they've got a training article this month with Marius Pudzianowski and they've got a picture of him incline pressing 585, squatting 765 and shoulder pressing 405 ::) what do you guys think?

Have you not seen the videos confirming this? It's only for singles, and he is pretty much the strongest man in the world you know.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #62 on: February 19, 2007, 07:36:25 AM »
ronnie could seated military 405 for sure. in unbelivable he did 12 reps with 315 5 weeks out of competition. im sure offseason he can handle that weight.

ronnie isnt much stronger in the "offseason" than he was in that movie (5 weeks out)...also he doesnt go that heavy all the time. i also believe ronnie could do 405. but not for "reps".

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2007, 07:38:27 AM »
Marisuz is a shredded 285.

Savikas is pushing 350. Glen Ross is so fat it was impeding his ability to do a proper clean with the apollon'
s wheel.

If Mariusz bulked up to 350, I have no doubts he would be the best in the world. Instead, he chooses to display a physique which allows him to win the WSM.

I challenge anyone to show me a better athlete in the world today than Mariusz
coulda, shoulda, woulda, blah, blah, blah, if Mariusz wants to prove he's the strongest in the world he should gain the weight and go prove it against the REAL strongmen in the IFSA, Savikas, Kochlaev, Ross and Virastuk, until then he is a pretender to the crown.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2007, 07:44:29 AM »
coulda, shoulda, woulda, blah, blah, blah, if Mariusz wants to prove he's the strongest in the world he should gain the weight and go prove it against the REAL strongmen in the IFSA, Savikas, Kochlaev, Ross and Virastuk, until then he is a pretender to the crown.
exactly, its not about relative strength...its about who is the strongest, regardless of weight. savickas and others mutilitate pudz in brute power.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2007, 07:46:44 AM »
You guys crack me up.. you think it's easier to do an endurance/strength event then it is a basic compound lift like deadlift, squat or bench!?!?! are you joking?? in the endurance event you have the weight + must have speed and the stamina to move that weight while holding/lifting it. In the basic lifts you're not moving (exuding energy) you're just situated in one place lifting a weight... which to you seems harder and required more concentration??

Marius is the 3 time WORLD'S STRONGEST MAN.. deal with it, oh and as for WSM being rigged?? get off the crack pipe, the events are the same for everyone in the competition.. some contestants are at an advantage/disadvantage because of their height/weight/cardio ability, but in the end (throughout all the events) it gets balanced out.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2007, 07:48:37 AM »
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i know hes has won wsm, but thats more endurance events than real pure power (relatively speaking of course). arnold classic is about real pure power.
and when he enters arnold classic he (mariusz) gets raped by savickas and others. and there is no question mariusz is an amazing athlete, but he aint worlds strongest man.

hope this helps  ;D

WSM is power which includes strength applied quickly with athleticism & some endurance, not just strength. That could be argued to be as good or better a measure than anything else.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2007, 07:49:16 AM »
You guys crack me up.. you think it's easier to do an endurance/strength event then it is a basic compound lift like deadlift, squat or bench!?!?! are you joking?? in the endurance event you have the weight + must have speed and the stamina to move that weight while holding/lifting it. In the basic lifts you're not moving (exuding energy) you're just situated in one place lifting a weight... which to you seems harder and required more concentration??

Marius is the 3 time WORLD'S STRONGEST MAN.. deal with it, oh and as for WSM being rigged?? get off the crack pipe, the events are the same for everyone in the competition.. some contestants are at an advantage/disadvantage because of their height/weight/cardio ability, but in the end (throughout all the events) it gets balanced out.

spoken like a "man" who's never done a heavy squat, deadlift or bench press in his life. ::)

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2007, 07:53:23 AM »
You guys crack me up.. you think it's easier to do an endurance/strength event then it is a basic compound lift like deadlift, squat or bench!?!?! are you joking?? in the endurance event you have the weight + must have speed and the stamina to move that weight while holding/lifting it. In the basic lifts you're not moving (exuding energy) you're just situated in one place lifting a weight... which to you seems harder and required more concentration??

Marius is the 3 time WORLD'S STRONGEST MAN.. deal with it, oh and as for WSM being rigged?? get off the crack pipe, the events are the same for everyone in the competition.. some contestants are at an advantage/disadvantage because of their height/weight/cardio ability, but in the end (throughout all the events) it gets balanced out.


can you read?
mariusz is an all around great athlete (i have said it 4-5 times in this thread) but when it comes to brute power he aint the worlds "strongest" man. savickas is.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2007, 07:56:47 AM »
WSM is power which includes strength applied quickly with athleticism & some endurance, not just strength. That could be argued to be as good or better a measure than anything else.

call it what you want. savickas is stronger than mariusz when it comes to brute power, thats what i been trying to say. not talking about running around with 100kg jugs of water. i havent discussed anything else than that.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #70 on: February 19, 2007, 08:01:22 AM »
can you read?
mariusz is an all around great athlete (i have said it 4-5 times in this thread) but when it comes to brute power he aint the worlds "strongest" man. savickas is.

That's fine, according to the World's Strongest Man contest, which has been around since the 70's, Marius IS the World's Strongest Man, that's my point.. the guy doesn't get the respect he deserves because of fat powerlifting jello blobs that are stronger in events that require no physical movement (aside from the actual lift itself).

Half of these powerlifter guys would have a heart attack if they atempted something like the atlas stones or the farmers walk.


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« Reply #71 on: February 19, 2007, 08:27:32 AM »
That's fine, according to the World's Strongest Man contest, which has been around since the 70's, Marius IS the World's Strongest Man, that's my point.. the guy doesn't get the respect he deserves because of fat powerlifting jello blobs that are stronger in events that require no physical movement (aside from the actual lift itself).

Half of these powerlifter guys would have a heart attack if they atempted something like the atlas stones or the farmers walk.


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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #72 on: February 19, 2007, 08:58:57 AM »
That's fine, according to the World's Strongest Man contest, which has been around since the 70's, Marius IS the World's Strongest Man, that's my point.. the guy doesn't get the respect he deserves because of fat powerlifting jello blobs that are stronger in events that require no physical movement (aside from the actual lift itself).

Half of these powerlifter guys would have a heart attack if they atempted something like the atlas stones or the farmers walk.



I have no problem with atlas stones being one of the events.

It's a great strongman event.

But the problem is when the heaviest stone can be lifted by all competitors.

Then it's obviously not heavy enough.

FWIW, Savickas always wins this event when it's real heavy.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #73 on: February 19, 2007, 09:16:12 AM »
Right ill chime in my opinions if youll permit me to express my opinion:

Mariusz under the current format of WSM is untouchable, even with his loss to Pfister. He's only going to get better so i see him winning atleast another 3 if he stays healthy.

Savickas has more raw power than he ever will because he is perfectly built to handle the impossible weights. Mariusz may have the muscle but Savickas has the overall body size

As far as total body strength goes, Glenn Ross has more strength than either man. Hes been injured for the last few years but at his absolute peak there isnt a man ive seen that could compete with him
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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #74 on: February 19, 2007, 09:28:49 AM »
I have no problem with atlas stones being one of the events.



But the problem is when the heaviest stone can be lifted by all competitors.

Then it's obviously not heavy enough.


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 Thats the most retarded post in ages!!

Big fucking deal if they can all do it (which they cannot) its about speed, balance, power in combination with strength.

WSM is not a powerlifting event!


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