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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #75 on: February 19, 2007, 09:43:17 AM »
WSM is power which includes strength applied quickly with athleticism & some endurance, not just strength. That could be argued to be as good or better a measure than anything else.


any of the WSM of powerlifters train on a bowflex?

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #76 on: February 19, 2007, 10:24:37 AM »

 Thats the most retarded post in ages!!

Big fucking deal if they can all do it (which they cannot) its about speed, balance, power in combination with strength.

WSM is not a powerlifting event!


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The problem is that if the Atlas Stones are too light, the event is about who is able to run the quickest between the stones instead of, rather, who the best lifter of the stones.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #77 on: February 19, 2007, 10:34:31 AM »
Some people are saying that Mariusz is not as strong in power movements, yet this year he destroyed nearly everyone in the deadlift and overhead press?

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #78 on: February 19, 2007, 02:56:50 PM »
You do realize that all the WSM's are rigged don't you?

The prettiest and most publically appealing competitor wins. Always. It's rigged to be that way.



how do you rig a strength contest...?  you can either lift the weight or you can't!

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #79 on: February 19, 2007, 03:00:20 PM »
how do you rig a strength contest...?  you can either lift the weight or you can't!
you're about to be schooled.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #80 on: February 19, 2007, 03:03:57 PM »

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #82 on: February 19, 2007, 03:16:21 PM »
how do you rig a strength contest...?  you can either lift the weight or you can't!

Smoke and mirrors! And invisible elves!   ;D

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #83 on: February 19, 2007, 03:36:38 PM »

 Thats the most retarded post in ages!!

Big fucking deal if they can all do it (which they cannot) its about speed, balance, power in combination with strength.

WSM is not a powerlifting event!



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This is all I was trying to get across..powerlifting is a bunch of fat out of shape slobs (sorry garraeth) competing in 3 basic compound lifts (and with the size of benchshirts lately I wouldn't even call that a lift) the lifts are stationary, there is no movement involved OTHER THEN THE ACTUAL LIFT ITSELF..  it's like comparing a freeweight dumbell press to a smith machine press..  there might be a reason why almost anyone can bench 3 plates a side on smith machine but can barely do the 100's with dumbells.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!
« Reply #84 on: February 19, 2007, 05:07:23 PM »
Marius is fucking awesome and he looks better than any of those fat clowns.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!
« Reply #85 on: February 19, 2007, 05:08:17 PM »
once again, mariusz has three WSMs, savickas has four ASCs. savickas placed second repeatedly at the WSMs, pudz was 3rd or below at the ASCs.

point to point savickas is the better athlete, as he not only dominates one of the competitions, but is just barely behind in the other, while mariusz dominates one and is struggling hard in the other.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #86 on: February 19, 2007, 05:50:24 PM »
This is all I was trying to get across..powerlifting is a bunch of fat out of shape slobs (sorry garraeth) competing in 3 basic compound lifts (and with the size of benchshirts lately I wouldn't even call that a lift) the lifts are stationary, there is no movement involved OTHER THEN THE ACTUAL LIFT ITSELF..  it's like comparing a freeweight dumbell press to a smith machine press..  there might be a reason why almost anyone can bench 3 plates a side on smith machine but can barely do the 100's with dumbells.


Yeah, fat, out of shape guys like Matt Kroczaleski:



Or perhaps his 174 lbs dumbbell row x 33 reps!



Yeah, moron, he is a real slob... ::)

You don't know shit about powerlifting you twit.  You really should not speak about what you know nothing about. 

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #87 on: February 19, 2007, 11:48:28 PM »
Yeah, fat, out of shape guys like Matt Kroczaleski:



Or perhaps his 174 lbs dumbbell row x 33 reps!



Yeah, moron, he is a real slob... ::)

You don't know shit about powerlifting you twit.  You really should not speak about what you know nothing about. 



You're absolutely right dipshit, I don't know anything about powerlifting BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE TWO FUCKS ABOUT IT!!! this is a BODYBUILDING forum.  Like I really care if some 450lb. slob that eats 40 donuts a day can bounce 500lbs. of his chest with 3 spotters and a 4 ply bench shirt. Get a clue, oh and while you're at it you might wanna hit the gym and put some actual muscle on your scrawny little body.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #88 on: February 19, 2007, 11:51:44 PM »
Do some research, but the basic breakdown is:

1 week of prelimiaries with groups of four athletes. 40 athletes in all. 10 groups. 1 from each group goes to the finals.

So for example in Group 1 if you want Athlete A to win...
Athlete A is tall, long legs, good endurance, poor squatting and poor shoulders. Add to that group a good squatter w/ poor endurance, a good endurance who is short, a good all around strength with no endurance.

Do events like the one where they have to carry the barrels in water (endurance + height).
The one where they have to lift the objects to the high platforms (height, endurance, overall strength).
Any speed event.

Don't do any squatting, deadlifting or overhead pressing events.

Athlete A wins easy.

Repeat for the finals.

omg, you guys are so stupid it is completely unbelievable... ::) Back to the short yellow bus with the lot of you.



That's a nice conspiracy theory you've got going there.. you really think contest organizers would go to such great lengths to hold back the fat athletes ?

Like i've stated previously, over the course of the competition throughout multiple events things even out, not every event is designed for the taller guy with better endurance, that's why there are multiple events and not one or two. Geez.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #89 on: February 20, 2007, 12:32:44 AM »
This is all I was trying to get across..powerlifting is a bunch of fat out of shape slobs (sorry garraeth) competing in 3 basic compound lifts (and with the size of benchshirts lately I wouldn't even call that a lift) the lifts are stationary, there is no movement involved OTHER THEN THE ACTUAL LIFT ITSELF..  it's like comparing a freeweight dumbell press to a smith machine press..  there might be a reason why almost anyone can bench 3 plates a side on smith machine but can barely do the 100's with dumbells.


The SHWs of powerlifting are often fat slobs, except for a few guys. I will agree with you there. Exceptions being guys like Brian Siders, Kirk Karwoski and Kazmaier.

As the garments develops, the fatsos gets even better. The reason is because the fat gives the lifter a tremendous pressure and bounce, specifically in the squat and the benchpress. Being obese isn't of any advantage in the deadlift.

That's why you'll find the fattest lifters as benchpress specialists. Guys like Gene Rychlak, Clay Brandenburg, Mike Wolfe (in the past).

These guys wouldn't been in the money before the arrival of the benchpress shirts.

Also, if Gene Rychlak would diet down to healthy levels of bodyfat, I doubt that he would raw bench 400 lbs. Consider then that there are claims that he has a raw bench of 650+ lbs, although I don't believe that.

As far as strongman events, Savickas and a few others are better than Pudzi. That's the way it is.

They are not stationary fat slobs. But they will lose to Pudzi every time as long as there are bullshit events like Atlas Stones with the heaviest stone only being 360-380 lbs.

Pudzi has a shot at hanging with these guys as long as it is high reps. Like when the Apollons Axle isn't decided on max weight, but rather on how many reps in 90 seconds.

Look at the Hummer Deadlift. Savickas owned everyone. Even the best deadlifter in the world, Benni Magnusson. Pudzi wasn't even close.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #90 on: February 20, 2007, 12:46:48 AM »
Heh. Naive.

So when hanging with them in Las Vegas, and again in Morocco, and all the talk was about how the organizers set things up for so-and-so to win, I was simply a poor sap caught up in a WSM-wide conspiracy theory?

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Yeah, you are certifiable. Did you not read (or maybe you didn't comprehend) my post outlining how simple it was to rig the whole series of events?

Taller guy with better endurance? So you take my example and generalize it to debate the topic? Douche. You can't even grasp the concept of an example. Why do I even bother? Figure it out yourself. It's all in black and white on the strongman sites.



The most obvious setup was when Magnus Samuelsson won back in 1999.

From what I recall, there were no heavy leg or back work in the finals or in his heat to the finals.


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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #91 on: February 20, 2007, 02:32:39 AM »
They are not stationary fat slobs. But they will lose to Pudzi every time as long as there are bullshit events like Atlas Stones with the heaviest stone only being 360-380 lbs.

Pudzi has a shot at hanging with these guys as long as it is high reps. Like when the Apollons Axle isn't decided on max weight, but rather on how many reps in 90 seconds.

Look at the Hummer Deadlift. Savickas owned everyone. Even the best deadlifter in the world, Benni Magnusson. Pudzi wasn't even close.

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Good points; if they want a certain type to win it's for what reason then-a more acceptable appearance.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #92 on: February 20, 2007, 02:33:50 AM »
You do realize that all the WSM's are rigged don't you?

The prettiest and most publically appealing competitor wins. Always. It's rigged to be that way.



The thing is even if you're right-and you didn't really detail what you've meant for the most part, I hardly think most of the winners outside of Marius are more appealing. How are they?

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #93 on: February 20, 2007, 05:41:36 AM »
You're absolutely right dipshit, I don't know anything about powerlifting BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE TWO FUCKS ABOUT IT!!! this is a BODYBUILDING forum.  Like I really care if some 450lb. slob that eats 40 donuts a day can bounce 500lbs. of his chest with 3 spotters and a 4 ply bench shirt. Get a clue, oh and while you're at it you might wanna hit the gym and put some actual muscle on your scrawny little body.


Lol, ok, let's first look at your board name; what's the matter, can't build any muscle clean?

Ok, let's get past that, now, as you can't even spell the word "off" correctly, I will not assume you have a high I.Q., but I would hope you are at least intelligent enough to realize what you are spewing is just pure stupidity. 

Alas, it probably ain't gonna happen, and that is just a pity...

Oh, and post a picture of yourself so we can see what you have accomplished with your incredible fervor for bodybuilding and your use of anabolics (I have to assume you use based upon your screen name).

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!
« Reply #94 on: February 20, 2007, 05:53:46 AM »
had a guy in my gym that could shoulder press 405, brought it down to the front not the back, down to his chin. 
he could bench 620, best i ever saw him incline was around 500 and this dude was totally steroid free so for a juicer i'd say its possible.  although this member of mine weighed about 310 at 5'7, as he was a powerlifter.
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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!
« Reply #95 on: February 20, 2007, 05:59:36 AM »
Powerlifters are fat and need a suit to bench over 500 pounds.


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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!
« Reply #96 on: February 20, 2007, 07:15:02 AM »
Powerlifters are fat and need a suit to bench over 500 pounds.



That's a no lift. No stop on the chest, also looked like he lifted his ass off the bench.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!
« Reply #97 on: February 20, 2007, 07:18:10 AM »
I agree, but:

He obviously didn't bounce or anything like that, I'd say it's still hella impressive.

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!
« Reply #98 on: February 20, 2007, 07:22:23 AM »
What about this one?

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Re: Ridiculous pictures in the new Flex!
« Reply #99 on: February 20, 2007, 07:23:20 AM »
I agree, but:

He obviously didn't bounce, I'd say it's still hella impressive.

Yes. Very impressive. He's the best un-tested benchpresser in the world, and credit to him for doing his thing instead of trying to cheat like the Russians and Coan did.


Here's the best ever, James Henderson:



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