Fat peoples lack of willpower is sickening

[Vince B]

There is probably no evidence that the intellect is improved by graduating from university. What one acquires is a lot of specific information and perhaps a way of going about studying various subjects.

[Debussey]

There is probably no evidence that the intellect is improved by graduating from university. What one acquires is a lot of specific information and perhaps a way of going about studying various subjects.

You did not adress any of the errors in your original post (see point 1-4).

Until you do that, you are running away from your errors in logic.

[Debussey]

Some help for Vince:

in·tel·lect      /ˈɪntlˌɛkt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-tl-ekt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. the power or faculty of the mind by which one knows or understands, as distinguished from that by which one feels and that by which one wills; the understanding; the faculty of thinking and acquiring knowledge. 
2. capacity for thinking and acquiring knowledge, esp. of a high or complex order; mental capacity. 
3. a particular mind or intelligence, esp. of a high order. 
4. a person possessing a great capacity for thought and knowledge. 
5. minds collectively, as of a number of persons or the persons themselves. 


-> Please disprove that attending any university does not help the intellect, as formally defined here.

[Vince B]

Here we are floating along in a thread and then someone challenges me in a serious way about points. Well, that might be fun for Debussey but is beyond the scope of this thread to reply in a manner sufficient to address his concerns.

The point I made was that Dean H doesn't show much evidence that he is a college graduate. Some people disguise their intelligence so that they are more accepted by the others. However, it appears that Garraeth is using all 4 cylinders when posting here.

[Vince B]

There is no evidence that I know that suggests that attending university enhances the power of the brain. Doing sudoku would probably be more beneficial for that.

[Debussey]

Here we are floating along in a thread and then someone challenges me in a serious way about points. Well, that might be fun for Debussey but is beyond the scope of this thread to reply in a manner sufficient to address his concerns.

The point I made was that Dean H doesn't show much evidence that he is a college graduate. Some people disguise their intelligence so that they are more accepted by the others. However, it appears that Garraeth is using all 4 cylinders when posting here.

You still claimed that Uni=not helpful for the intellect as an isolated thought.

Debussey would be glad to discuss this issue with you in a more serious thread, and Debussey will bring all the post it made in this thread over to teh new one.
You are obviously a bright fellow, but you are gonna have some real problems argumenting against Debusseys very solid points here.

Keep reading Karl Popper.  

[Vince B]

I enjoy a good discussion re philosophical issues and even bodybuilding theory. Bring it on.

[Debussey]

I enjoy a good discussion re philosophical issues and even bodybuilding theory. Bring it on.

Good. But first you must present counterarguments for every point in this discussion (systematical argumentation) instead of general hunches.
When we have completed this discussion, we can go on to the next one.

Argument against each of DEbusseys arguments.

Popper would be proud.

[SteelePegasus]

People assume that the intellect is improved by attending university. Well, it all depends on where you go and what you study. If you attended Harvard and obtained a PhD then you have a fine brain. If you attended some small local college and majored in social ecology then you missed getting an education.

Guys who study engineering and computer science aren't particularly well educated, either. So, it is possible to attend university or college and remain a dolt.

Vince, you are on a bodybuilding board in a forum called "gossip & opionions" with the hopes of finding higher intelligence and the definition of it.

umm..never mind, it might take too long to explain the problem with that....carry on

[Debussey]

Vince, you are on a bodybuilding board in a forum called "gossip & opionions" with the hopes of finding higher intelligence and the definition of it.

umm..never mind, it might take too long to explain the problem with that....carry on

He does not need to define "higher intelligence".

All he needs to do is to use the general definition of intellect/intelligence.

And when he do that, he loses the discussion because his arguments falls together under the demand for precision and logical substance.

Debussey respects Vince though. He is one bright fellow.

[Vince B]

My intelligence urges me not to reply in depth to Mr Debussey. The subject is out of the scope of Getbig. If he finds a suitable forum to discuss such matters then I will gladly engage him there.

[Debussey]

My intelligence urges me not to reply in depth to Mr Debussey. The subject is out of the scope of Getbig. If he finds a suitable forum to discuss such matters then I will gladly engage him there.

In other words: Let us take this discussion to the generals or politics board.

[slaveboy1980]

fat people should pay fat tax..the fatter they are the more tax!!!!!!!!

[G o a t b o y]

This thread is teh awesome!   










And fat people still suck. 

[onlyme]

You are right in one thing...I do come here to play.


But I didn't lie about my degree...sure it's just a screenshot, but unless you'd like to call them and/or visit my house to view my degree in person, you're S.O.L.


I'm playing now...it's fun to talk about MEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
ME
Me and more MEEEeeEEEEEEEeeee!!!

 

Is your dad a doctor.  I had a doctor in LA who worked on my ankle named Higgenbotham

[Camel Jockey]

Vince Basile's wife is probably some fat bitch that spanks him everytime he gets a boner. I mean why else would he take this issue to heart?  

[the shadow]

nope, but I have met a couple "Higgenbotham"'s. I'm "Higginbotham".



k, now everyone google me...ready, set, GO!

heh

Kewl thing is that a "Higgenbotham" is down in history as making the very first video game ever. So for fun I like to fake it and say he's a relative    (course I tell the truth later, but it's cool to see my computer nerd friends reactions: "oh wow!").

your real name is ''willy bob' much help'..wallaaah wallaah wallaah

[Nordic Beast]

Oh sh*t take a look at this waste of life---------------her parents r f*cked up----haha

http://www.yikers.com/video_7_year_old_weighs_in_at_400_lbs.html

[Hunter86]

I HATE FAT FUCKS I WISH THEY WOULD ALL JUST DIE

[Vince B]

Still many hard core bigots against fat people here. Sort of expected that of guys who are anonymous. The bigotry starts when you define individuals according to what they look like. Bodybuilders who persist in changing their bodies should not throw stones at those who don't look like they do. Truth be told most people don't admire large physiques.

I guess some of you guys need people to feel superior to. What dismal lives you must have.

[Nordic Beast]

Still many hard core bigots against fat people here. Sort of expected that of guys who are anonymous. The bigotry starts when you define individuals according to what they look like. Bodybuilders who persist in changing their bodies should not throw stones at those who don't look like they do. Truth be told most people don't admire large physiques.

I guess some of you guys need people to feel superior to. What dismal lives you must have.

Ur moral grandstanding is naseauting----------------Fat people have increased risk of heart disease (the number one killer of people in the US), diabites etc....----------Fat people are usually gluttonous and show no sign of any willpower----------they are a far worst drain on healthcare then any steroid users or illegal drug users.


Are we supposed to feel bad for the person who's got adult-onset diabites because of horrible nutrtion and lack of excercise------and when warned by their doctor they still eat and eat and sit around on their fat ass-------------------Can u personally imagine a doctor telling u that if u dont clean up your diet and excercise you would lose ur leg or foot and u just ignore it and continue in your gluttonous, disgusting behaviour.

[Vince B]

Obesity is associated with heaps of problems. However, it is not a morally unacceptable state and that is what many here are trying to suggest.

Using the same argument one could claim that bodybuilders use too many resources, are unhealthy and often require more health care than average people. The professional bodybuilders do all that to themselves so are morally culpable.

The same cannot be said about fat people. Fatness is not something one does to him or herself. Well, with the exception of feedees who intentionally get larger. Fatness just happens. It isn't because of the lack of will power or any moral inferiority. Obesity usually occurs over a long period of time. Once people are obese it is very difficult to reverse.

At least we know how fat people must feel if the attitudes posted here are typical.

[Camel Jockey]

I guess some of you guys need people to feel superior to. What dismal lives you must have.

Keep making assumptions.  

Are we supposed to feel bad for the person who's got adult-onset diabites because of horrible nutrtion and lack of excercise------and when warned by their doctor they still eat and eat and sit around on their fat ass

Hell no we're not, and I'm fucking sick of politically correct nazis saying that to insult obese people is bigotry.

[Camel Jockey]

Using the same argument one could claim that bodybuilders use too many resources, are unhealthy and often require more health care than average people. The professional bodybuilders do all that to themselves so are morally culpable.

 

How many people on average are serious bodybuilders that run big steroid cycles? Very few.. Most people on this forum are just ordinary gym rats.

Use too many resources? What percentage of the population are bodybuilders? I'm guessing fewer than 5%. On the other hand, close to 30% of the total population is obese. Don't go comparing apples to oranges, man.

[muscleforlife]

Working in the fitness industry, I see all types of people taking fitness classes, joining gyms.
Some obese people just give up on themselves.
Actually, food is addictive like drugs and alcohol.

When speaking with overweight clients, I encourage them have a food journal.  Write down what you eat, when you eat it and how you felt when you ate it.

This helps when you have it in writing, you have to break the cycle of overeating, eating when you're not hungry, stressed, bored, tired, etc.

If any person on here had to lose 50lbs or more and found it was easy, then you are unique.
To actually say you HATE fat people shows intolerance which is sad.  Hate is such a strong emotion.
It would be better if you that energy to a positive use.  Adopt a out of shape person and help them change get healthier. 
It could be a friend, relative, stranger.  Donate an hour or two a week to help someone.  You may be surprised when you give something to someone, you feel better about yourself.

Sandra