Vince what don't you get about we know everyone isn't the same, we know some have a harder time then others, we know some may have serious medical issues but that doesn't change the fact that with strong willpower and determination 99.99% of people could be healthy and at a decent weight. Stop making excuses for fat people and see the light, they must try and not stop trying, no one just becomes healthy and fit just sitting around, it's an everyday thing not a 2week or 2month thing.