not even close and Jays my favouriter BBer. Joel from the waist up is almost unbeatable, but his quad tears stop him from making the progress he could have
I can't believe CNN or any of the other "mainsteam media" haven't covered this ever-heating debate.
come on dude.jay has better legs,better delts,better chest,better arms...stubbs is just one huge back and nothing else
so you agree that stubb's back is superior to jay's?
no it ain't.its just the whole package..just one big back does not make you a mr olympia
not even closethe width and the detail can barely be matched by a peak ronnie coleman or dorian yateshowever, jay smokes him overall/thread
i would say better but not bigger