Author Topic: Clean bulk ? (Read 19602 times)

Princess L · « **Reply #175 on:** March 14, 2007, 01:27:08 PM »

Quote from: Lugar on March 14, 2007, 11:07:08 AM

I have made some huge improvememtns

What improvements have you made? What does the scale say today?
Lugar, you have been here asking the same questions and posting the same diet (foods) for 10 months!
It's become quite tiresome....... $:-\$

Lugar · « **Reply #176 on:** March 14, 2007, 02:46:54 PM »

im following davie...I have added 1k, to my diet, nixed cardio, eggs in the am...etc...scakle says 170 even today in pm without any cardio on 3500 cals....I have two concerns well three...overall cals are too high (i sit all day) bananas are junk>>> and toast in 1st meal and post workout....junk?

Rimbaud · « **Reply #177 on:** March 14, 2007, 04:46:46 PM »

Quote from: Lugar on March 14, 2007, 11:21:54 AM

ok...you ever do it? Do you use bananas and bread as carb sources???

Yes I love bananas & bread.

Rimbaud · « **Reply #178 on:** March 14, 2007, 04:49:13 PM »

Quote from: Lugar on March 14, 2007, 02:46:54 PM

im following davie...I have added 1k, to my diet, nixed cardio, eggs in the am...etc...scakle says 170 even today in pm without any cardio on 3500 cals....I have two concerns well three...overall cals are too high (i sit all day) bananas are junk>>> and toast in 1st meal and post workout....junk?

Lugar, you are making things way to complicated. For the last time - DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU (yes, I'm yelling at the computer

). Remember: KISS (KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID).

Dieting doesn't have to be as complex as you're making it.

Lugar · « **Reply #179 on:** March 14, 2007, 05:48:18 PM »

ok I just know 1 little change ie adding fruit chnges some physiques big time I just want to hold on to my ab definition as much as possible. just assure me that with the cals I am going to be solid. the banana n the bread will keep me ean n allow me to put on lean mass. then with winny eq tren cardio n lowerr cals ill be better thsn before n on stage in s few yrs even at 30 yrs old.....i sit all day which is also why I'm a tad worried. bless the diet stick by me and I won't say another word for 2 mnths promise. this 300mg test I don't want to waste by shorting cals. ill be solid right? skinny fat aint my style I'd rather be a twig lol. thnx boys blessed?

benjamin pearson · « **Reply #180 on:** March 14, 2007, 05:50:44 PM »

Quote from: 210 and growing on March 14, 2007, 02:33:43 AM

Haahaha. Why on earth are you eating low carb bread!!?? You mention all this sh it about not getting enough cals and cant put on weight then eat low carb bread?? Dude - sort yerself out !!

exactly this guy is a moron.....

Princess L · « **Reply #181 on:** March 14, 2007, 06:19:22 PM »

Quote from: Lugar on March 14, 2007, 05:48:18 PM

I just want to hold on to my ab definition as much as possible.

FACE IT! IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN! GET OVER IT or SHUT UP.

You don't have abs to lose, so quit worrying about it.

These are abs.

Princess L · « **Reply #182 on:** March 14, 2007, 06:20:19 PM »

This is emaciation

davie · « **Reply #183 on:** March 15, 2007, 03:37:35 AM »

Quote from: Lugar on March 14, 2007, 05:48:18 PM

ok I just know 1 little change ie adding fruit chnges some physiques big time I just want to hold on to my ab definition as much as possible. just assure me that with the cals I am going to be solid. the banana n the bread will keep me ean n allow me to put on lean mass. then with winny eq tren cardio n lowerr cals ill be better thsn before n on stage in s few yrs even at 30 yrs old.....i sit all day which is also why I'm a tad worried. bless the diet stick by me and I won't say another word for 2 mnths promise. this 300mg test I don't want to waste by shorting cals. ill be solid right? skinny fat aint my style I'd rather be a twig lol. thnx boys blessed?

DUDE....stop saying 'I won't say another word for 2 mnths promise,' b/c the next day ur asking more questions again.

u sed u wer 164, and now ur 170??

In that case by my calculations uv put on weight,aslong as the weights are going up in the gym aswell, dont moan. just eat lift, eat rest....then repeat.

davie

Lugar · « **Reply #184 on:** March 15, 2007, 03:42:11 AM »

low csrb bread? yeah after a 90 carb meal.......im proving u haters wrong lovr thst..........up 3 lbs llets keep ir going....davie spent too much time.......i got him to represent.....pm me davie

davie · « **Reply #185 on:** March 15, 2007, 03:57:10 AM »

Quote from: Lugar on March 15, 2007, 03:42:11 AM

low csrb bread? yeah after a 90 carb meal.......im proving u haters wrong lovr thst..........up 3 lbs llets keep ir going....davie spent too much time.......i got him to represent.....pm me davie

about what mate?

i think u get the jist of it now, if ur up 3 lbs then good....even if it was 3lbs a month thats ok, that added up over the year is alot of weight.

davie

Lugar · « **Reply #186 on:** March 15, 2007, 04:22:01 AM »

I'm up 3lbs from the start of the week...I was 164, and now it's 167//the 170 was evening weight, so it was mostly water and food...true weight is 164 and prb. 10%...

I got the gist....bout to have my eggs n oats n english muffin......this dude said bananas and bread wee two of the worst foods unless its postowrkout....I want bread and tst in my first meal AND psot workout like the diet statess...same with the banana,,,,,,you;d do both, right? Goal is to stay lean as possible, why would I have to nix thse foods?

?? Christ, it's not mcdonalds!

davie · « **Reply #187 on:** March 15, 2007, 04:52:10 AM »

Quote from: Lugar on March 15, 2007, 04:22:01 AM

I'm up 3lbs from the start of the week...I was 164, and now it's 167//the 170 was evening weight, so it was mostly water and food...true weight is 164 and prb. 10%...

I got the gist....bout to have my eggs n oats n english muffin......this dude said bananas and bread wee two of the worst foods unless its postowrkout....I want bread and tst in my first meal AND psot workout like the diet statess...same with the banana,,,,,,you;d do both, right? Goal is to stay lean as possible, why would I have to nix thse foods??? Christ, it's not mcdonalds!

Bro have them at both times if u really want.

Good ur up in weight, dont weigh urself every week, no need.

davie

Lugar · « **Reply #188 on:** March 15, 2007, 05:10:28 AM »

I wont weight myself...mybe once every 2 weeks.....mirror speaks volume....why do some say to nix bred and bananas? You eat em and stay ripped, right?

davie · « **Reply #189 on:** March 15, 2007, 07:24:38 AM »

Quote from: Lugar on March 15, 2007, 05:10:28 AM

You eat em and stay ripped, right?

Come on mate, ur on a bulk diet. this question isnt importnat.

I dont eat a sandwhich and think, 'im gonna stay ripped if i eat this right'

ur gaining, be happy.

davie

Lugar · « **Reply #190 on:** March 15, 2007, 07:47:46 AM »

thnk for the blessing...done.

davie · « **Reply #191 on:** March 15, 2007, 07:54:24 AM »

So we can officially lock up this thread?!

glad ur happy, let us know in a month or so how its going!

davie

DK II · « **Reply #192 on:** March 15, 2007, 11:05:17 AM »

Quote from: davie on March 15, 2007, 07:54:24 AM

So we can officially lock up this thread?!

glad ur happy, let us know in a month or so how its going!

davie

hahaha, he'll post another question in 10 minutes.

Lugar · « **Reply #193 on:** March 15, 2007, 11:28:28 AM »

you are a true prick..........

Davey, 210 and Rim thnx bros..........

Lugar · « **Reply #194 on:** March 15, 2007, 03:21:39 PM »

LAST POST.....just an idea what I had today........right track? First off, this was my routine I just got back from:

Todays improvements from Monday are in red

new chest routine formula mon and thursday program. flat based on 5x5 pyramid.........

INCLINE Dbell
55x12 60x12
65X8
655X8 70x8
75X6 --> solo, Monday had spot DROP
65x8 65x9 55X10 60x10

FLAT BARBELL (startHERE)
0X15
95x5
105x5 115x5
125x5 135x5
140x5 145x5
160x5 165x5
175x4-5 185 x 4 barely a tap on 5th

PECK DECKS
120x12 135 12
135x10 135+ 10 135x10 135+ 10
135+x9 150 9
120+x5 135+ 4
105+x6 120+ 4

INCLINE FLY
30X10 35x12 10 35X10 40x12 10
40X10 45x10 10
45X10 50x10 10
DECLINE BURNOUT
155X10 160x10 10
165X8 170x8 8
175X6 180x5 6

Seated Angled Calf-raise:
45+10x10
45x20x10
45x20+25x5
45+10x10, 45x5

Standing Calf-raise:
180x10 200 280x10 300
360x5 stack 280x5 300
180x10 200

Lugar · « **Reply #195 on:** March 15, 2007, 03:26:27 PM »

730
1/2 CUP OATS
2 EGG
1 cup egg whites
1 banana
1 pcs toast and 1/2 english muffin w/ cream cheese (ff)

10
3oz Flank Steak
3oz chciken
green beans
3/4 cup brown rice


1pm
6oz chicken
3/4 cup oats

train at 3pm

bcaas

545
2 pcs toast
1 cup egg whites
large salad
veggies

630
whole wheat bagel
2 tb pb
large banana

8pm

930pm?

Midnight?

just a start for today

Lugar · « **Reply #196 on:** March 16, 2007, 06:24:05 AM »

Pretty solid day food wise yesterday and a nice chest session....I read last night about the keys to gaining mass from the new MD (I know, It was prebed) and it gave this recipe for a shake....

olive oil
whey
pb
honey

Said it was about 1700 and to drink this 3x a day on top of 3 meals....each shake is suppose to be 1700 clean cals.....christ!

I am loving the eggs in my first meal....thanks Davie. Today it was a tb of pb.....2 full eggs, 1 cup egg whites (keep the protein up) 1/2 cup oats........large banana, and a exekiel eenglish muffin with ff cream cheese....all at 830am...next meal is my FLANK!!! and brown rice.........eating is starting to get fun, wonder if I should go out and get some wings tonight....

As for training....it's my 2nd delt day....usually do more of a power routine the 2nd day with hang cleans and high rows.......

What about 10 sets of 10 reps with eavh of the big lifts

10 of 10

Hang Clean
Deadlift
Bench

even though I benched yesterday, would this be a problem?

davie · « **Reply #197 on:** March 16, 2007, 06:35:57 AM »

Yeh dont do it.

Keep at what uv got, after a while on ur diet and wen u start to stall on weights, then change things. not until then.
Unless ur getting bored, but that shouldnt be for at least a month.

davie

ps if u wanna go out for wings instead then do it.

davie

Lugar · « **Reply #198 on:** March 16, 2007, 07:28:10 AM »

I am keeping to the program, but want to incorporate an aux day...I used to train delts 2x a week, but it's too much on my delts........thinking of just using the big lifts one day.....5 sets of 6 at maybe 60-75% of max?

Rimbaud · « **Reply #199 on:** March 16, 2007, 08:50:20 AM »

Be careful training delts twice a week - I did that here & there & always ended up really sore. Also keep in mind that delts get a lot of indirect work when doing chest & back. I probably only do two exercises for delts during the week but that's just me.