For Those Of You That Believe Saddam Had Nothing To Do With Terrorism.....

[240 is Back]

this will be interesting to see if this actually happens.  I'm not saying it won't, but i'm waiting to see if it does.

additionally:  war is rarely declared for the reasons we are told.  It shouldn't take too much smarts to realize this.  There are always underneath the BS the true reasons the perpetrators don't tell you.

last week, pentagon #2 man said the war will end in Oct 2008.  Pipeline will be done in fall 2008.

this shit is so elementary, guys.  Plan all along was to have it done right when Bush leaves office.  The dems will lose their 'end the war' card 3 weeks before election day.

[BRUCE]

dude, you're naive.

no one here will defend your position that "NO ONE in the US believed Saddam would use the agents we sent to his universities, because they weren't his express property".

Cause it's just naive.

'Naive' is your new 'understand', isn't it, 240?  It's basically the adjective you use when you're devoid of facts and debate, which happens more than you’d like to admit.

The facts are, you claimed the US gave Saddam Mustard Gas and Anthrax.  You were wrong.  I stated the facts and supported the Senate's and the UN's decisions to exonerate the US Government of any wrongdoing.  Do you have any facts to put forth that dispute this?  

[240 is Back]

'Naive' is your new 'understand', isn't it, 240?  It's basically the adjective you use when you're devoid of facts and debate, which happens more than you’d like to admit.

The facts are, you claimed the US gave Saddam Mustard Gas and Anthrax.  You were wrong.  I stated the facts and supported the Senate's and the UN's decisions to exonerate the US Government of any wrongdoing.  Do you have any facts to put forth that dispute this?  

You said NO ONE IN THE US GOVT BELIEVED SADDAM WOULD TAKE THE AGENTS WE GAVE HIS SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T HIS EXPRESS PROPERTY.

You said a murderous dictator wouldn't use bio or chems because stealing is wrong.

[BRUCE]

You said NO ONE IN THE US GOVT BELIEVED SADDAM WOULD TAKE THE AGENTS WE GAVE HIS SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T HIS EXPRESS PROPERTY.

You said a murderous dictator wouldn't use bio or chems because stealing is wrong.

That's not my quote, so that everyone is aware.

And I didn't say the below part either - which is entirely innacurate.

If you had a valid argument, you wouldn't have such a need to imagine things I'd said, would you Rob?

240, do you not know how to use the 'quote' function?

[240 is Back]

That's not my quote, so that everyone is aware.

And I didn't say the below part either - which is entirely innacurate.

If you had a valid argument, you wouldn't have such a need to imagine things I'd said, would you Rob?

240, do you not know how to use the 'quote' function?

Clarify then  

Please tell us why we sent these materials to iraqi institutions while the dictator had two wars on his hands.

Please share your position too.  Not 3 pages of cites.  YOUR belief.

[BRUCE]

Clarify then  

Please tell us why we sent these materials to iraqi institutions while the dictator had two wars on his hands.

Please share your position too.  Not 3 pages of cites.  YOUR belief.

Better yet, since you so inaccurately misquoted me (if you can even call it that) you can go ahead and find what I've said previously on this issue.  I'll not entertain your deceptions.

I've been into deep detail about this with you before, Rob, and you know where I stand.

For anyone else interested, or if they need clarification on this matter from me, I'll respond to any PMs.

[240 is Back]

Better yet, since you so inaccurately misquoted me (if you can even call it that) you can go ahead and find what I've said previously on this issue.  I'll not entertain your deceptions.

I've been into deep detail about this with you before, Rob, and you know where I stand.

For anyone else interested, or if they need clarification on this matter from me, I'll respond to any PMs.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAA

YOU REFUSE TO STATE YOUR POSITION AGAIN!!!

hahaha you will only answer on PM now!  damn, pathetic dude.

[BRUCE]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

YOU REFUSE TO STATE YOUR POSITION AGAIN!!!

hahaha you will only answer on PM now!  damn, pathetic dude.

Again?  Show where, without making up quotes this time.

Do you agree that you falsified my position above?  If so, you understand why I won't entertain you.

UPDATE:

For everyone else, I've clarified again and again what my position is on this, which is more than easily available if you search my topic on 'Iraq/US Arms Deceit'.  240 is indulging himself in silly misquotes and falsities, again.

[OzmO]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

YOU REFUSE TO STATE YOUR POSITION AGAIN!!!

hahaha you will only answer on PM now!  damn, pathetic dude.

careful now, you are pinning him down AND using profanity. 

He'll run if you are not careful.

You see it's ok for him to question people's character, just not the other way around.   

[Dos Equis]

That's not my quote, so that everyone is aware.

And I didn't say the below part either - which is entirely innacurate.

If you had a valid argument, you wouldn't have such a need to imagine things I'd said, would you Rob?

240, do you not know how to use the 'quote' function?

He does and will actually invent a "quote" that is purportedly made by you.  He has a history.     I think he has a problem distinguishing between quoting and paraphrasing. 

[BRUCE]

careful now, you are pinning him down AND using profanity. 

He'll run if you are not careful.

You see it's ok for him to question people's character, just not the other way around.   

He didn't use profanity, and I don't have a problem with the questioning of people's charcters, especially if they make comments like yours.

[BRUCE]

He does and will actually invent a "quote" that is purportedly made by you.  He has a history.     I think he has a problem distinguishing between quoting and paraphrasing. 

If he actually had an argument that was logical and accurate, he's have no need to do this at all.

Everyone should ask themselves why 240 would need to create quotes for the purpose of argument, if he has one worth telling.

[240 is Back]

Again?  Show where, without making up quotes this time.

Do you agree that you falsified my position above?  If so, you understand why I won't entertain you.

UPDATE:

For everyone else, I've clarified again and again what my position is on this, which is more than easily available if you search my topic on 'Iraq/US Arms Deceit'.  240 is indulging himself in silly misquotes and falsities, again.

LOL... so you won't restate your position, huh?

You just wrote seven sentences encouraging people to search all your posts.

You could have reitereated your position in 1 sentence.

you're afraid to take a position dude.

[240 is Back]

BRUCE,

for the record,

Why did the US send those materials to iraqi Universities, when they knew saddam was a murderous dictator at war with both iran and his own people?

simple question, dude.

[Dos Equis]

If he actually had an argument that was logical and accurate, he's have no need to do this at all.

Everyone should ask themselves why 240 would need to create quotes for the purpose of argument, if he has one worth telling.

True.  And then after inventing facts, he will ask you to defend those invented facts, or ask a dumb set up question, and use the rather juvenile tactic of calling you a chicken if you don't respond.  Quit taking the bait dude.    

[BRUCE]

BRUCE,

for the record,

Why did the US send those materials to iraqi Universities, when they knew saddam was a murderous dictator at war with both iran and his own people?

simple question, dude.

You refuse to answer the simplest of questions from me, and then falsify quotes on my behalf.  I won't be responding to you from hereon in this thread until you answer and apologise.  I'll clarify my position happily for anyone else if they are interested at all.

[240 is Back]

BRUCE,

for the record,

Why did the US send those materials to iraqi Universities, when they knew saddam was a murderous dictator at war with both iran and his own people?

simple question, dude.

[BRUCE]

True.  And then after inventing facts, he will ask you to defend those invented facts, or ask a dumb set up question, and use the rather juvenile tactic of calling you a chicken if you don't respond.  Quit taking the bait dude.    

I've just taken your advice mate.

[240 is Back]

You refuse to answer the simplest of questions from me, and then falsify quotes on my behalf.  I won't be responding to you from hereon in this thread until you answer and apologise.  I'll clarify my position happily for anyone else if they are interested at all.

Yep.  Just as I figured!

Agree with me or disagree with me, I give my opinion and back it up.

Sad that you will attack mine, but won't even give yours.

[OzmO]

He didn't use profanity, and I don't have a problem with the questioning of people's charcters, especially if they make comments like yours.

ok  BRUCE,


all i know is, that you have no problem attacking someone's character direct or indierct, but when you get a taste of your own medicine you don't seem to handle it well.

Sorry, if i skipped the indirect way and went right to the direct method. 

Have good day over there  what is it Monday afternoon?

Sunday night 10pm for me and i have lots going on tomorrow. 

In the spirit of debate i can repost my response whit out the profanity if you'd like.  but I'll do it tomorrow.  i need to get to sleep.

Got lots of business propaganda/motivation to put out tomorrow via fax!

[gtbro1]

  Bruce...why aren't you in the military fighting?
 
   Do YOU have any immediate family who is?

[240 is Back]

all i know is, that you have no problem attacking someone's character direct or indierct, but when you get a taste of your own medicine you don't seem to handle it well.

yeah.  bruce attacks everything I say, claims i'm lying, demands I apologize.

i admit when i'm wrong, then when he says i paraphrased his position incorrectly, I asked him to clarify.

He's essentially saying I misunderstood his position, but he's so offended he refuses to state it.



BRUCE,

for the record,

Why did the US send those materials to iraqi Universities, when they knew saddam was a murderous dictator at war with both iran and his own people?

simple question, dude.

[gtbro1]

You refuse to answer the simplest of questions from me, and then falsify quotes on my behalf.  I won't be responding to you from hereon in this thread until you answer and apologise.  I'll clarify my position happily for anyone else if they are interested at all.

BRUCE,

for the record,

Why did the US send those materials to iraqi Universities, when they knew saddam was a murderous dictator at war with both iran and his own people?

simple question, dude.

[OzmO]

yeah.  bruce attacks everything I say, claims i'm lying, demands I apologize.

i admit when i'm wrong, then when he says i paraphrased his position incorrectly, I asked him to clarify.

He's essentially saying I misunderstood his position, but he's so offended he refuses to state it.



BRUCE,

for the record,

Why did the US send those materials to iraqi Universities, when they knew saddam was a murderous dictator at war with both iran and his own people?

simple question, dude.

well,  he'll reveal his character soon. 

I'm optimistic that he'll prove to be a stand up guy who's just using many different debate tactics.

[gtbro1]

  what happened to the vault idea? This is a good time for that. 240 vs Bruce