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The BIG Back
« on: March 13, 2007, 08:22:33 AM »
I got back tody........this is what I did last week and my goals for this week.......however, do you think I would build more mass if I incorporate the 5x5 for deads using the 50%, 60%, 70, etc....goals in BOLD

      WARMUP      WARMUP      WARMUP      SET 1      SET 2
str8 rows       x12       x10      x8      x8      x8
                                  
                              
DEADS       0x8        135x5        255x5        285x4          
                  265x5      290x4       
                              
v barLAT PULLDOWN       140x8        140x8        160x3-4 - too  hvy        130x4        110x8
       same                         
                              
Dbell row (high) bench       70x8        80x8        90x4        70x5       
      75x8      85x8      95x4      75x5      
                              
Wide pulls       110x12           120x10        120x10           130x8          
       same                         


or something like : 135x5      160x5      185x5      215x5      245x5      265x5
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2007, 09:32:08 AM »
IMO I think you should focus less on the amount of weight you lift & more on just using moving the weight with a complete range of motion. 
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2007, 10:27:48 AM »
my rom is fine...lol..thnx weight is what matters
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2007, 11:01:02 AM »
Quote from: Lugar on March 13, 2007, 10:27:48 AM
weight is what matters

A little but its not the only thing. I think the main idea is moving the weight. I see plenty of kids curling 60lbs dumbbells for eight swinging reps (damn near bent in half). However, if they cut the weight in half & did eights reps with a full range of motion then they'd get a lot more accomplished.
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2007, 11:20:06 AM »
I used to think that was true until i had the opportunity to train with J.Cutler............
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 11:30:06 AM »
Lugar Lugar Lugar...

You always have some witty response to refuse advise.

Obviously training with cutler hasn't helped. if it had, you wouldn't be here asking questions.

Rim is correct, use good form, stretch and squeeze every contraction. only then will you understand how to control the muscles and work them to full potential.

Weight is important but look at your boy cutler, he uses light weight on alot of exercises, but he also uses insane amounts of gear and has a good contraction during every rep.

Good luck.

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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2007, 12:16:10 PM »
Quote from: Lugar on March 13, 2007, 11:20:06 AM
I used to think that was true until i had the opportunity to train with J.Cutler............

huh?
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2007, 12:18:53 PM »
Quote from: Overload on March 13, 2007, 11:30:06 AM
Rim is correct, use good form, stretch and squeeze every contraction. only then will you understand how to control the muscles and work them to full potential.

Thanks. Too many people are only focused on lifting heavy weights. Leave your ego at the door. Use good form & an appropriate weight & you'll get stronger.
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2007, 02:01:30 PM »
A better back workout would be:

Pullups/Chins (Weighted)
Pullovers (Nautilus)
Barbell Rows/DB Rows
Deads

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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2007, 02:37:31 PM »
I LIKE MY ROUTINE....good form, yes I agree, but heavy weights are what counts.....if you get sloppy for a few reps just to squeeze em out, its all good....
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2007, 02:54:10 PM »
Quote from: Lugar on March 13, 2007, 02:37:31 PM
I LIKE MY ROUTINE....good form, yes I agree, but heavy weights are what counts.....if you get sloppy for a few reps just to squeeze em out, its all good....

If you like it so much quit posting about it.  Good...you like it, now stop.
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2007, 02:57:41 PM »
just killed it...up another 5lbs........

      WARMUP      WARMUP      WARMUP      SET 1      SET 2      SET 3
str8 rows       x12       x10      x8      x8      x8      x10
      95x12      115x10      135x8      140x8      145x8      125x10
                                    
DEADS       0x8        135x5       265x5      290x4                     
                                    
                                    
v barLAT PULLDOWN       140x8        140x8        160x3-4 - too  hvy        130x4        110x8       
       same                               
                                    
Dbell row (high) bench      75x8      85x8      95x4      75x5            
                                    
                                    
Wide pulls       110x12           120x10        120x10           130x8                
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2007, 06:16:08 PM »
Quote from: Lugar on March 13, 2007, 02:37:31 PM
I LIKE MY ROUTINE....good form, yes I agree, but heavy weights are what counts.....if you get sloppy for a few reps just to squeeze em out, its all good....

If you like it & it works for you why do you keep trying to get peoples opinions of it?
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2007, 07:10:06 PM »
Quote from: Mike on March 13, 2007, 02:54:10 PM
If you like it so much quit posting about it.  Good...you like it, now stop.
LOL
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2007, 05:04:42 AM »
like it...but always willing to change for more efficiency!
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2007, 10:10:09 AM »
Quote from: Lugar on March 13, 2007, 08:22:33 AM
I got back tody........this is what I did last week and my goals for this week.......however, do you think I would build more mass if I incorporate the 5x5 for deads using the 50%, 60%, 70, etc....goals in BOLD

      WARMUP      WARMUP      WARMUP      SET 1      SET 2
str8 rows       x12       x10      x8      x8      x8
                                  
                              
DEADS       0x8        135x5        255x5        285x4          
                  265x5      290x4       
                              
v barLAT PULLDOWN       140x8        140x8        160x3-4 - too  hvy        130x4        110x8
       same                         
                              
Dbell row (high) bench       70x8        80x8        90x4        70x5       
      75x8      85x8      95x4      75x5      
                              
Wide pulls       110x12           120x10        120x10           130x8          
       same                         


or something like : 135x5      160x5      185x5      215x5      245x5      265x5

what ever happened to t-bar rows and straight bar bread and butter of a thicker back..
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2007, 10:38:04 AM »
yup...and dbell rows and deads.....thats it...........
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2007, 05:04:06 PM »
I like it go heavy or go home!
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2007, 09:23:06 PM »
Quote from: Lugar on March 13, 2007, 11:20:06 AM
I used to think that was true until i had the opportunity to train with J.Cutler............

what he means is....he bought some cell-tech and got a free jay cutler dvd and played it while he worked out
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2007, 05:25:23 AM »
ummm......lol.....i guess..... ???
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2007, 05:35:46 AM »
Sounds like he's one of those bro's that needs a pat on the back and encouragement all the time to make him feel good about himself and what he's doing and there's nothing wrong with that.  Some people need to hear how good they are or that they're doing it right. It's just that with all this fucking stroking there better be a happy ending to it. LIKE FIGURING OUT WTF YOU NEED TO FIX TO BE HAPPY WITH YOUR BACK!  ;D

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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2007, 03:35:33 PM »
Quote from: thewickedtruth on March 16, 2007, 05:35:46 AM
Sounds like he's one of those bro's that needs a pat on the back and encouragement all the time to make him feel good about himself and what he's doing and there's nothing wrong with that.  Some people need to hear how good they are or that they're doing it right. It's just that with all this fucking stroking there better be a happy ending to it. LIKE FIGURING OUT WTF YOU NEED TO FIX TO BE HAPPY WITH YOUR BACK!  ;D



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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2007, 07:59:10 AM »
Gay rows are better than straight rows
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Re: The BIG Back
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2007, 08:07:27 AM »
my back routine is always:

Deads
pulldowns
and pullovers



then I hit two pulling movememnts, either corner tbar rows (ol school style, bar in corner of gym), str8 bar rows, or standing rack dbell rows.....
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