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Re: ICE CREAM FOR EVERYONE !!!
« Reply #575 on: November 20, 2008, 04:01:57 PM »
You want my honest opinion? OK, first I think your a good guy. Now, I once had a friend who's wife never knew he took steroids even thogh he won a few shows. I don't even personally know most of you guys so how would I REALLY know? Does it look like you are on? not really since like I said you have not much muscle. The lighting is really good for your pics and if you are not flexing and in normal light you may not even look lean. As far as the diet goes I have never seen yours. Was it on you site cause I missed it?

You have your expert stars for a reason, you are spot on. The lighting is quite good and that pose makes me look bigger. If you look at the other pics in my thread that's pretty obvious. I would have never thought to be accused of using anything based on the pictures in my thread.

My diet is very simple:
- one large meal a day (lunch) in different restaurants
- one 100g whey protein shake during the day
- sometimes one or two glasses of red wine in the evening
- one day a week is pig out day

Calories were around 2000 if the pig out day is taken into account.

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« Reply #576 on: November 20, 2008, 04:02:47 PM »
Yeah but how can we know that this person will eat this way?
Video Journal via Youtube. Every meal is filmed and eaten on camera along with some verifiable proof of the day.   

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« Reply #577 on: November 20, 2008, 04:03:00 PM »
I say we put up pool and someone take up the adonis challenge for 10 weeks and start a sticky on the main board keep a journal and post there results daily/weekly.

This way we can see if it works or not and put this to rest for good.

Anyone up for the challenge. Ill put up 50 bux, anyone else want to chip in???

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« Reply #578 on: November 20, 2008, 04:04:29 PM »
You have your expert stars for a reason, you are spot on. The lighting is quite good and that pose makes me look bigger. If you look at the other pics in my thread that's pretty obvious. I would have never thought to be accused of using anything based on the pictures in my thread.

My diet is very simple:
- one large meal a day (lunch) in different restaurants
- one 100g whey protein shake during the day
- sometimes one or two glasses of red wine in the evening
- one day a week is pig out day

Calories were around 2000 if the pig out day is taken into account.
As you see, my principles allow for a lot of creativity.  I space my caloric amount whereas Wavelength chooses to space it out a bit differently.

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« Reply #579 on: November 20, 2008, 04:04:40 PM »
Yeah but how can we know that this person will eat this way?

very true, and honestly after a few weeks, i think they would get sick of eating crap everyday.

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« Reply #580 on: November 20, 2008, 04:05:06 PM »
Video Journal via Youtube. Every meal is filmed and eaten on camera along with some verifiable proof of the day.   

Good luck with that meaining I don't think too many people would go that far unless the reward was great.

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« Reply #581 on: November 20, 2008, 04:05:31 PM »
I say we put up pool and someone take up the adonis challenge for 10 weeks and start a sticky on the main board keep a journal and post there results daily/weekly.

This way we can see if it works or not and put this to rest for good.

Anyone up for the challenge. Ill put up 50 bux, anyone else want to chip in???
How about you try it yourself also.  Nothing better than doing it firsthand.

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« Reply #582 on: November 20, 2008, 04:06:43 PM »
very true, and honestly after a few weeks, i think they would get sick of eating crap everyday.
How is eating your favorite foods construed as automatically eating crap?
So by your rationale, anyone who eats anything they enjoy, even if it is a chicken breast, is eating crap?


Doesn`t make any sense.

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« Reply #583 on: November 20, 2008, 04:11:40 PM »
I never eat crap, only foods I enjoy (apart from the protein shake, of course)

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« Reply #584 on: November 20, 2008, 04:11:57 PM »
How is eating your favorite foods construed as automatically eating crap?
So by your rationale, anyone who eats anything they enjoy, even if it is a chicken breast, is eating crap?


Doesn`t make any sense.

lets see now, u said today u had ben and jerry's and u like it. Ben and Jerry's is crap food, it has no nutritional value, and i would get tired of eating it or something similar everyday.

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« Reply #585 on: November 20, 2008, 04:13:03 PM »
How about you try it yourself also.  Nothing better than doing it firsthand.

I dont believe it works so i wouldnt last on it! ;D

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« Reply #586 on: November 20, 2008, 04:13:25 PM »
So Disgusted do you think I lie about the diet or not?

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« Reply #587 on: November 20, 2008, 04:14:35 PM »
I dont believe it works so i wouldnt last on it! ;D

You would, I'm pretty sure. You love them burgers! ;D

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« Reply #588 on: November 20, 2008, 04:20:01 PM »
You would, I'm pretty sure. You love them burgers! ;D

Yea I love burgers, but can only eat them twice a week at the most.

I get tired of fast food quite easily, just dont like the way i feel after eating non home cooked food.

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« Reply #589 on: November 20, 2008, 04:20:30 PM »
lets see now, u said today u had ben and jerry's and u like it. Ben and Jerry's is crap food, it has no nutritional value, and i would get tired of eating it or something similar everyday.
A couple of things. Ben and Jerry`s food does have nutritional value more so than oatmeal believe it or not.  Examine the Nutrient profile of Vitamins, Minerals and Amino Acids and Essential Fatty Acids and you wil find that 300 calories of Ben and Jerry`s is actually more nutritious then 300 calories of oatmeal.  Just because a food is sweet and tastes wonderful does not mean it can`t be functional or nutritious.

Take an 8 oz Chicken Breast for Example and a Big Mac. The Big Mac has lower Cholesterol. See what I am getting at?  You can`t just label a food as crap. There is no such thing.

Lastly, you don`t have to eat Ben and Jerry`s everyday or any certain food everyday unless you enjoyed it or wanted to.  I don`t understand why you automatically think you have to eat the same thing everyday. What gave you that notion?

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« Reply #590 on: November 20, 2008, 04:21:27 PM »
A couple of things. Ben and Jerry`s food does have nutritional value more so than oatmeal believe it or not.  Examine the Nutrient profile of Vitamins, Minerals and Amino Acids and Essential Fatty Acids and you wil find that 300 calories of Ben and Jerry`s is actually more nutritious then 300 calories of oatmeal.  Just because a food is sweet and tastes wonderful does not mean it is functional or nutritious.

Take an 8 oz Chicken Breast for Example and a Big Mac. The Big Mac has lower Cholesterol. See what I am getting at?  You can`t just label a food as crap. There is no such thing.

Lastly, you don`t have to eat Ben and Jerry`s everyday or any certain food everyday unless you enjoyed it or wanted to.  I don`t understand why you automatically think you have to eat the same thing everyday. What gave you that notion?

Good job rallying all your gimmicks in this thread.

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« Reply #591 on: November 20, 2008, 04:22:14 PM »
A couple of things. Ben and Jerry`s food does have nutritional value more so than oatmeal believe it or not.  Examine the Nutrient profile of Vitamins, Minerals and Amino Acids and Essential Fatty Acids and you wil find that 300 calories of Ben and Jerry`s is actually more nutritious then 300 calories of oatmeal.  Just because a food is sweet and tastes wonderful does not mean it is functional or nutritious.

Take an 8 oz Chicken Breast for Example and a Big Mac. The Big Mac has lower Cholesterol. See what I am getting at?  You can`t just label a food as crap. There is no such thing.

Lastly, you don`t have to eat Ben and Jerry`s everyday or any certain food everyday unless you enjoyed it or wanted to.  I don`t understand why you automatically think you have to eat the same thing everyday. What gave you that notion?
you've just lost what little credibility you ever had with that post.

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« Reply #592 on: November 20, 2008, 04:22:59 PM »
Good job rallying all your gimmicks in this thread.

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Alex23, you look like you are a keen follower of The Adonis Principles, although you seem to have the calorie consumption a little high.

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« Reply #593 on: November 20, 2008, 04:25:14 PM »
Hey Alex, I remember a post where you said every advanced lifter who is not a masochist and has half a brain would follow the Adonis principles, what gives ???

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« Reply #594 on: November 20, 2008, 04:27:22 PM »
Yea I love burgers, but can only eat them twice a week at the most.

I get tired of fast food quite easily, just dont like the way i feel after eating non home cooked food.
The Home Cook Food I make tends to be more caloric than Fast Food.  About 750 calories here.

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« Reply #595 on: November 20, 2008, 04:28:55 PM »
you've just lost what little credibility you ever had with that post.
Not at all.  Look at the Nutrient Profile of each food and Compare.  You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts as Joe Biden would say. :)

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« Reply #596 on: November 20, 2008, 04:29:42 PM »
The Home Cook Food I make tends to be more caloric than Fast Food.

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I certainly use a lot more oil than Fast Food!

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« Reply #597 on: November 20, 2008, 04:30:31 PM »
that looks quite tasty TA

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« Reply #598 on: November 20, 2008, 04:37:41 PM »
Where's the beef?

There are some who challenge the definition "junk food", and claim that the phrase is used as a moral judgement on certain people's lifestyles rather than as a strictly scientific category.

   
Vincent Marks, Emeritus Professor of Clinical Biochemistry at the University of Surrey and co-editor of a new book titled Panic Nation: Unpicking the Myths We're Told About Food and Health, goes so far as to claim that there is no such thing as junk food.

"Junk food is an oxymoron," he says. "Food is either good - that is, it is enjoyable to eat and will sustain life - or it is good food that has gone bad, meaning that it has deteriorated and gone off.

"To label a food as 'junk' is just another way of saying, 'I disapprove of it.' There are bad diets - that is, bad mixtures and quantities of food - but there are no 'bad foods' except those that have become bad through contamination or deterioration."

Professor Marks says that all foods - whether the dreaded twizzler or a freshly picked apple - are just combinations of protein, fat and carbohydrates, and our bodies will take from them what we need and get rid of the rest. "Even hamburgers provide energy in a palatable and affordable form," he argues.

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« Reply #599 on: November 20, 2008, 04:40:31 PM »
Is junk food a faddist myth?
Some scientists are questioning whether fast food is really bad for us

By Mick Hume


JUNK food does not exist, says Professor Stanley Feldman. “Of course, some foods taste better or are more nutritious. But the idea that some contain nothing of value or are harmful is nonsense.”For Professor Vincent Marks, junk food is “a contradiction in terms. By definition, food is good for you. The only bad food is food that has gone bad. McDonald’s is considered bad, simply because it is wrong for the current fashion.”

These two views may seem unusual. We are used to warnings about burgers, fizzy drinks and other fast foods, and high fat, sugar and salt content being blamed for an epidemic of obesity, especially among children. The Department of Health has detailed targets for reducing consumption of what it calls “unhealthy foods” (aka junk). One MP has even introduced a Bill to ban junk food adverts from children’s TV. There is also a huge amount of anti-junk food literature, from Eric Schlosser’s investigative Fast Food Nation to the children’s morality tale, The Berenstain Bears and Too Much Junk Food. But much of this orthodoxy is rejected as unscientific by Feldman (from the University of London) and Marks (Surrey University). They carry no banners for the fast-food industry, and it is hard to imagine them eating a double cheeseburger, but they object to what they see as “misinformation” and “propaganda” from the anti-junk food lobby.

“The idea that any food by itself is harmful is nonsense,” Feldman says. “Meat is not absorbed into the blood stream as Angus beef or Big Macs, but as a variety of amino acids, the same in both meats. Fat enters the bloodstream as fatty acids, and the same ones are produced from good cheese as from fatty meat.

“In a balanced diet we need a certain amount of protein, fat and carbohydrate. We also need salts. One thing that might be considered as ‘junk food’ is water, since it has no nutritional value, but we can’t survive without a certain amount of that, either.”

Obesity, Feldman thinks, “is not down to one type of food, or to one make of food”. The suggestion that fatty or sugary foods are addictive is “absolute nonsense. They say that these foods release endorphins in the body. Well, a lot of things do that — sex, sunshine, laughing. Are we supposed to ban them as well?”

Marks first upset food faddists when he identified a condition that he called Muesli Belt Malnutrition. He thinks that junk food is “just an emotive, derogatory label that means you don’t approve. My mother thought that baked beans on toast with tomato sauce was junk food. Now we might say it is ideal, lots of antioxidants, fibre and so on.

“Food that is eaten is good for you. I have been trying to get the manufacturers to make ice-cream with all the minerals required for feeding people in hospital, because it is one thing that they will eat.”

Warnings about addictive fast food are “a distortion of the concept of addiction. You might as well say that all food is ‘addictive’, since we keep going back for more, especially the ones we enjoy.”


Marks accepts that “obesity is a big problem. But it is much more complicated than we have imagined, probably with genetic and biological factors. People do need to be educated to understand that while there are no rigid rules, there are general guidelines. But to label these foods as the problem is just to try to find a scapegoat.”