ICE CREAMS and calorie is a calorie and Haha Apenis - all three threads merged.

[Disgusted]

Hmmm, I think there's too many insider jokes in there for me
Not sure if that was an answer or not.

Huh? No jokes at all. My point was that I believe you and I used an example of a friend who only ate once per day like you.

[SOMEPARTS]

Umm...well here is my experience:

Sat in waiting area and was given a Valium to calm me down.  I never felt any different.  Was taken to operating room and put in chair.  They cover one eye.  Then they use a plastic instrument to 'prop' the other eye open.  They spray your eye with some numbing liquid.  Then the blade makes the incision in the eye.  The flap is lifted (which is one of the freakiest things) and your vision is even blurrier.  Then the laser does its thing....for a moment you have COMPLETE darkness in the eye along with some pressure (dont remember why).  It goes like an eclipse.  When your sight come back, the flap is closed, something is then used to close the incision (sounds like you are being tazered). 

When they did my right eye I told them that there was a LOT of pressure.  They said it was normal.  When you are done, you really are able to see clearly.  You go home, sleep for about 6 - 8 hours.  For the first two weeks every hour you are putting drops of some sort in your eye.

All in all...WELL WORTH IT.

Jeebus, will stick with lenses. I keep thinking all the lasik eyes are going to go bad someday.

[The True Adonis]

You are not answering my question, but maybe I didn't make it clear. How can you know what you claim is true without taking into account the 25 gr of sugar? Did you actually break it down molecule for molecule? If so please post the equation.

Lastly, why eat something that has not nutritional value. Sugar is NOT a food. It is junk.  

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/cgi-bin/list_nut_edit.pl
Ice creams, BREYERS, All Natural Light Vanilla

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NDB No: 19875 (Nutrient values and weights are for edible portion)

Nutrient    Units    Value per
185 grams    Number
of Data
Points
Proximates
Water   
g
120.05
0
Energy   
kcal
300
1
Energy   
kJ
1254
0
Protein   
g
8.95
1
Total lipid (fat)   
g
8.49
1
Ash   
g
0.70
0
Carbohydrate, by difference   
g
46.81
1
Fiber, total dietary   
g
0.4
1
Sugars, total   
g
42.14
1
Minerals
Calcium, Ca   
mg
313
1
Iron, Fe   
mg
0.11
1
Sodium, Na   
mg
131
1
Vitamins
Vitamin C, total ascorbic acid   
mg
2.0
1
Vitamin A, IU   
IU
808
1
Lipids
Fatty acids, total saturated   
g
5.291
1
Cholesterol   
mg
28
1

[wavelength]

Huh? No jokes at all. My point was that I believe you and I used an example of a friend who only ate once per day like you.

Ah, OK, I thought you were actually referring to flex

So what you are saying is that sev is not so good in judging such things
Up to now I actually thought his judgment is not so bad.

You would still say that on a different diet, I could have preserved more muscle, true?

[The True Adonis]

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/cgi-bin/list_nut_edit.pl



Cereals, oats, instant, fortified, plain, dry

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NDB No: 08122 (Nutrient values and weights are for edible portion)

Nutrient    Units    Value per
80 grams    Number
of Data
Points
Proximates
Water   
g
8.30
2
Energy   
kcal
300
0
Energy   
kJ
1254
0
Protein   
g
10.18
2
Total lipid (fat)   
g
5.00
2
Ash   
g
2.48
2
Carbohydrate, by difference   
g
54.04
0
Fiber, total dietary   
g
8.0
2
Sugars, total   
g
1.21
2
Sucrose   
g
1.10
2
Glucose (dextrose)   
g
0.00
2
Fructose   
g
0.00
2
Lactose   
g
0.00
2
Maltose   
g
0.00
2
Galactose   
g
0.10
2
Starch   
g
45.32
2
Minerals
Calcium, Ca   
mg
282
1
Iron, Fe   
mg
23.42
2
Magnesium, Mg   
mg
110
2
Phosphorus, P   
mg
339
2
Potassium, K   
mg
287
2
Sodium, Na   
mg
206
2
Zinc, Zn   
mg
2.83
2
Copper, Cu   
mg
0.299
2
Manganese, Mn   
mg
2.336
2
Selenium, Se   
mcg
21.4
2
Vitamins
Vitamin C, total ascorbic acid   
mg
0.0
2
Thiamin   
mg
1.640
2
Riboflavin   
mg
0.960
2
Niacin   
mg
13.240
2
Pantothenic acid   
mg
0.880
2
Vitamin B-6   
mg
1.280
2
Folate, total   
mcg
229
0
Folic acid   
mcg
203
0
Folate, food   
mcg
26
0
Folate, DFE   
mcg_DFE
371
0
Choline, total   
mg
32.5
0
Vitamin B-12   
mcg
0.00
0
Vitamin B-12, added   
mcg
0.00
0
Vitamin A, RAE   
mcg_RAE
858
0
Retinol   
mcg
858
0
Carotene, beta   
mcg
0
0
Carotene, alpha   
mcg
0
0
Cryptoxanthin, beta   
mcg
0
0
Vitamin A, IU   
IU
2857
1
Lycopene   
mcg
0
0
Lutein + zeaxanthin   
mcg
0
0
Vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol)   
mg
0.38
2
Vitamin E, added   
mg
0.00
0
Tocopherol, beta   
mg
0.02
2
Tocopherol, gamma   
mg
0.14
2
Tocopherol, delta   
mg
0.04
2
Vitamin K (phylloquinone)   
mcg
1.5
2
Lipids
Fatty acids, total saturated   
g
1.230
0
4:0   
g
0.000
0
6:0   
g
0.000
0
8:0   
g
0.000
0
10:0   
g
0.000
0
12:0   
g
0.000
0
14:0   
g
0.017
1
15:0   
g
0.002
1
16:0   
g
1.103
1
17:0   
g
0.003
1
18:0   
g
0.090
1
20:0   
g
0.008
1
22:0   
g
0.007
1
Fatty acids, total monounsaturated   
g
1.703
0
14:1   
g
0.000
1
16:1 undifferentiated   
g
0.010
0
16:1 c   
g
0.010
1
17:1   
g
0.002
1
18:1 undifferentiated   
g
1.654
0
18:1 c   
g
1.651
1
18:1 t   
g
0.003
1
20:1   
g
0.036
1
22:1 undifferentiated   
g
0.000
0
Fatty acids, total polyunsaturated   
g
1.941
0
18:2 undifferentiated   
g
1.880
0
18:2 n-6 c,c   
g
1.877
1
18:2 i   
g
0.003
1
18:3 undifferentiated   
g
0.061
0
18:3 n-3 c,c,c   
g
0.061
1
18:4   
g
0.000
0
20:4 undifferentiated   
g
0.000
0
20:5 n-3   
g
0.000
0
22:5 n-3   
g
0.000
0
22:6 n-3   
g
0.000
0
Fatty acids, total trans   
g
0.006
0
Fatty acids, total trans-monoenoic   
g
0.003
0
Cholesterol   
mg
0
0
Amino acids
Tryptophan   
g
0.144
0
Threonine   
g
0.293
0
Isoleucine   
g
0.396
0
Leucine   
g
0.768
0
Lysine   
g
0.540
0
Methionine   
g
0.172
0
Cystine   
g
0.348
0
Phenylalanine   
g
0.528
0
Tyrosine   
g
0.304
0
Valine   
g
0.564
0
Arginine   
g
0.671
0
Histidine   
g
0.228
0
Alanine   
g
0.444
0
Aspartic acid   
g
0.933
0
Glutamic acid   
g
2.184
0
Glycine   
g
0.505
0
Proline   
g
0.311
0
Serine   
g
0.503
0
Other
Alcohol, ethyl   
g
0.0
0
Caffeine   
mg
0
0
Theobromine   
mg
0
0

[The True Adonis]

Disgusted, Play around with this tool http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

You will soon learn that foods you labeled as "junk" which is a myth are in fact not even close and that some of the food you are used to eating is not as sound nutritionally.

Try out Different Ice Cream brands and compare them to Oatmeal.  Ice Cream wins everytime.

Make sure you are comparing the same caloric amounts.

[Bast000]

Sugar is NOT a food.

 

[wavelength]

Why is sugar not a food, it provides energy, doesn't it?

[The True Adonis]

No, all carbs break down into glucose in the end. I am talking about white table sugar, the kind in the ice cream that you are talking about. Please answer my question.

That is NOT the majority of the kind of sugar in Ice Cream.  For the most part the sugar comes from the Milk or Cream which is known as Lactose!

I am going to educate you!

[Krankenstein]

This is common knowledge and did not help.

Sorry... 

[Disgusted]

That's a nutritional break down, but it does not take into account the energy deficit and nutritional deficit that the sugar is causing thru digestion. Also, it is common practice to label sugar as a natural food when in fact is has ZERO nutrition and is not a food at all.

[Disgusted]

Disgusted, Play around with this tool http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

You will soon learn that foods you labeled as "junk" which is a myth are in fact not even close and that some of the food you are used to eating is not as sound nutritionally.

Try out Different Ice Cream brands and compare them to Oatmeal.  Ice Cream wins everytime.

Make sure you are comparing the same caloric amounts.

I already again that there is no such ting as "junk food" as in the pure sense of the definition. Although I still will use the term to describe some foods.

[wavelength]

That's a nutritional break down, but it does not take into account the energy deficit and nutritional deficit that the sugar is causing thru digestion. Also, it is common practice to label sugar as a natural food when in fact is has ZERO nutrition and is not a food at all.

Disgusted are you saying sugar has a negative energy balance?

[Disgusted]

Why is sugar not a food, it provides energy, doesn't it?

Look up the definition of food. and NO, it does not provide energy. It robs the body of energy.

[Disgusted]

The kind of sugar that IS ADDED to food is not a food! It provides NOTHING for the body!

[wavelength]

Look up the definition of food.

"Food is any substance, usually composed primarily of carbohydrates, fats, water and/or proteins, that can be eaten or drunk by an animal or human for nutrition or pleasure."

[Disgusted]

"Food is any substance, usually composed primarily of carbohydrates, fats, water and/or proteins, that can be eaten or drunk by an animal or human for nutrition or pleasure."

I may eat rat poison for pleasure but it sure ain't a food so I gotta disagree with the last part of "this" particular definition. 

[wavelength]

I may eat rat poison for pleasure but it sure ain't a food so I gotta disagree with the last part of "this" particular definition. 

Nutrition amongst other things means providing energy, true?
Just to get that right, do you think sugar has a negative energy balance in the body?

[chaos]

Disgusted has snapped, he's pwning people left and right in here!!!

[Disgusted]

Nutrition amongst other things means providing energy, true?

 False. They are not the same thing. I may snort a line of Coke to provide me some energy, but it sure isn't providing me with any nutritional support.

[Bast000]

NO they are not the same thing. I may snort a line of Coke to provide me some energy, but it sure isn't providing me with any nutritional support.

cocaine (or any stimulant) doesn't give you energy, it makes you use up glycogen faster, which sugar provides.

[wavelength]

NO they are not the same thing. I may snort a line of Coke to provide me some energy, but it sure isn't providing me with any nutritional support.

I am referring to energy as in the physical definition.
Providing that to the body is the main purpose of nutrition, no?

[Disgusted]

cocaine (or any stimulant) doesn't give you energy, it makes you use up glycogen faster, which sugar provides.

If I shoot you in the ass with pure adrenaline it will give you an energy rush and it nothing to do with glycogen. Sugar does NOT provide anything.

[Disgusted]

Disgusted are you saying sugar has a negative energy balance?

Pure white sugar robs your body of nutrients and it provides no nutrition. Nothing more needs to be said.

[Bast000]

If I shoot you in the ass with pure adrenaline it will give you an energy rush and it nothing to do with glycogen. Sugar does NOT provide anything.

actually adrenaline does use glycogen, fat too.