ICE CREAMS and calorie is a calorie and Haha Apenis - all three threads merged.

[The True Adonis]

LOL!!!

More of your Bullshit.

You clearly stated that macronutrients don't matter. The only "rule" was a calorie is a calorie.

Please show me where I posted that.

Link me.

Wait. You can`t.
Because I have NEVER stated or mantained that.

You are reaching my friend for an alternate reality that only exists in your mind.  Don`t let your hate for me consume you in such a way that distorts your own reality. 

I notice this is a clear trait of the Conservative brain.  It is a quite interesting phenomenon.

[mass 04]

Adonis is the best mind fvcker on the internet,hands down.

[Tapeworm]

There is no excess range for Protein according to the RDA/RDI.

I don't mean protein ceiling, I mean basement - minimum protein consumption.

I seem to recall you recommending the RDA at one point, but I thought you had since revised your view and were eating slightly more protein.  I can't remember for sure what you recommend in the way of grams of protein per day.

[DK II]

A CALORIE WILL ALWAYS BE A CALORIE no matter what.

This is an absolute and can never change.

A Macronutrient is not a macronutrient.

bump

for BULLSHIT

[DK II]

Donkey Kong once again trolling the Adonis thread w/ his anger. Just walk away for once. You'll never win.

"win"? How can i "win" on an internet message board.

Please show me where I posted that.

Link me.

Wait. You can`t.
Because I have NEVER stated or mantained that.

You are reaching my friend for an alternate reality that only exists in your mind.  Don`t let your hate for me consume you in such a way that distorts your own reality. 

I notice this is a clear trait of the Conservative brain.  It is a quite interesting phenomenon.

Oh i can't??

A CALORIE WILL ALWAYS BE A CALORIE no matter what.

This is an absolute and can never change.

A Macronutrient is not a macronutrient.

idiot

[MAXX]

this thread is pretty useless without proof..

that Leafy is not natural anymore has been obvious since after his first competition... with adonis i doubt it but you never know...

[The True Adonis]

"win"? How can i "win" on an internet message board.

Oh i can't??

idiot

uhhh, You do realize that is EXACTLY what I just posted above?  Here I will repost it:

I have ALWAYS and STILL MANTAIN that a Calorie is a calorie but a Macro Nutrient is not a Macro Nutrient.  1 calorie of paper clips=1 calorie of carbs=1 calorie of shampoo=1 calorie of fat=1 calorie of diamond and so on....

Protein is not a Carbohydrate, Carbohydrates are not a Fat, Fats are not a Protein and so on....

I have said this since day one.

The poor comprehension skills of most members on here is astounding.  Shocked


I have ALWAYS said that a Calorie is a Calorie but a Macro Nutrient is not a Macro Nutrient.

Thanks for making my case yet again.

Seriously, what is the matter with your comprehension skills?  Do you realize that you are just re-affirming what I have always mantained?

or  

Are you just a moron that does not realize that he just in fact PWNED himself?

[DK II]

BS, you claimed it doesn't matter in what way macronutrients are in your diet.

I'll find the post, just wait.

[The True Adonis]

I don't mean protein ceiling, I mean basement - minimum protein consumption.

I seem to recall you recommending the RDA at one point, but I thought you had since revised your view and were eating slightly more protein.  I can't remember for sure what you recommend in the way of grams of protein per day.

.5 to 1 gram per lb of bodyweight is what I recommend.

[The True Adonis]

BS, you claimed it doesn't matter in what way macronutrients are in your diet.

I'll find the post, just wait.

You are just wasting your time.  It could be better spent learning how to comprehend what you read and remembering the context.

[Alex23]

bump

for BULLSHIT

thanks bro.. I was looking for this thread but too lazy to search..

[The True Adonis]

bump

for BULLSHIT

Really?

So 1 calorie of shampoo is not equal to one calorie diamond?  Care to demonstrate that one?  You have revised the Second Law of Thermodynamics?

also

You are claiming that all Macronutrients are the same?  Care to demonstrate that one?

[Tapeworm]

.5 to 1 gram per lb of bodyweight is what I recommend.

Cool. 

Agree, although I raise protein a little higher when dieting.

[wavelength]

I don't think this "calorie = calorie" thing will provide any real information. It's like saying 1 inch is 1 inch, of course that's always true.

Macro composition does matter, I think this is established.

[wavelength]

So where are the PMs this thread was all about

[Nordic Beast]

hahah are you saying that fat bloated Alex is jealous of your ideal greek physique

you know disgusted and him were all giddy talking to each other on IM about how they were going to "own" you into oblivion-----got to wonder how much time ALex has spent on his mancrush on you...pure self-ownage on his part

I know the deal----he's been following me around for the last 6 months with a disturbing mancrush

[The True Adonis]

I don't think this "calorie = calorie" thing will provide any real information. It's like saying 1 inch is 1 inch, of course that's always true.

Macro composition does matter, I think this is established.

The irony is that the concept is so simple, yet so lost and deemed too confusing for fellows such as DonkyKong to ever grasp.  The hope for the future is indeed dim if this kind of thought operates en masse`.

[The True Adonis]

hahah are you saying that fat bloated Alex is jealous of your ideal greek physique

you know disgusted and him were all giddy talking to each other on IM about how they were going to "own" you into oblivion-----got to wonder how much time ALex has spent on his mancrush on you...pure self-ownage on his part

I know the deal----he's been following me around for the last 6 months with a disturbing mancrush

I don`t understand it really.  Usually a mancrush operates in the opposite manner.  Alex23 has unchanneled anger I think due to Hummer and GMC on the brink of dissolution and the fact that his stock portfolio has declined further than his physique has which is quite frightening.

[ASJChaotic]

The irony is that the concept is so simple, yet so lost and deemed too confusing for fellows such as DonkyKong to ever grasp.  The hope for the future is indeed dim if this kind of thought operates en masse`.

people.....which is heavier

a pound of feathers or a pound of steel?

[MisterMagoo]

any man who buys a hummer clearly has security issues.

[shiftedShapes]

So where are the PMs this thread was all about

yes please post let us make up our own minds.

[drkaje]

My sidechest crushes all of you, post a picture beating me, you must be natural,anybody? keith?
that's what I thought

LOFL!!!!

You're trying too hard to fit in here.

[Disgusted]

Yea I do.  I think he lies about the way he eats to make it look like he has some new way of dieting so it gives him some sort of importance on here and other sites.  He obviously has lost alot of weight and got in better shape than he was.  I give him credit for that bigtime.  But, he is lying 100% when he tells you how he did it.  Anyone can see that except for the people who hope he is telling the truth.  And he say he does no cardio or very little.  For some reason he wants people to think he is smarter than he really is so he creates these stories and tries to convince people he created a new way to lose weight, get strong and be in optimal shape.  He has done nothing.  He is a master of cut & paste and has not come up with anything that is new and revolutionary.  If he would have just come out and tell people his actual diet and training regime he would be respected on here.  but trying to fool people on here and some of them very very smart in the industry is just dumb.

BINGO! At this point only a dumbass would believe anything that he says? I guarentee that he doesn't have to think too hard as to who the people are that pmd me either.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

Another juicer who looks like he squats 135 for 5.  

[drkaje]

BMR at 6.5 cal per lb of bodymass says I require about 1450 cal at rest plus 450 per workout. So at about 1700 I'm defficient and should get ripped soon. Calories being calories and proteins, supplements being all a scam, I decided to get my 1700 cals on Cap n' Crunch and Cocopuffs, both will only bring me 4g of protein so I should be fine.

3 weeks later I'm wasting like there's no tomorow, my insulin is all fucked up and glucose to glucagon ratio is off the roof.

Where did I go wrong with my great application of those so called "Principles"?

Breaking out of that madness, I remembered something from biochemistry called PTOR (protein turn over rate). That scientifically proven rule says that my LBM x 1.818 is what I need to prevent from going catabolic. so that's about 310g of protein.


I come to the conclusion that the fucking idiots who think that "calories are calories" are misleading the goodhearted getbiggers.

Discuss 

I'm not going to disagree with ya but can Adumbass really be blamed for people being thatstupid? Adonis is just an internet persona (like the rest of us), unless someone's putting out legit credentials and can show real results there isn't a reason to believe them.

Generally, I believe he's a smart guy that is a bit of an attention whore.