ICE CREAMS and calorie is a calorie and Haha Apenis - all three threads merged.

[Relentless]

very low, but conditioning seems to be what wins Mr. Getbig
so if I can add another 20 pounds of muscle and be at 4% I could win it hands down

Do you have any idea of how difficult it is to add 20 lbs of muscle?  Come on AXA, I thought we were getting somewhere.

[ASJChaotic]

Four 4% is miserably low. I've been tested at 5% before (over a period of two weeks) with calipers (room for error) and I distinctly remember not seeing carbs or fat in my diet for a while to do that. Oh, and I was doing track on top of my lifting at the time.

why do you have Romania highlighted in red? 

[ASJChaotic]

Do you have any idea of how difficult it is to add 20 lbs of muscle?  Come on AXA, I thought we were getting somewhere.

we are, we are, 
consider this, I have been only doing this for 9 months, half assing it
and I have a 6 foot 7 inch frame to fill
so 20 pounds in the next year, seems reasonable to me

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

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so 20 pounds in the next year, seems reasonable to me

20 lbs. natty, hahahahahaha!

unattainable without drugs

[TommyBoy]

very low, but conditioning seems to be what wins Mr. Getbig
so if I can add another 20 pounds of muscle and be at 4% I could win it hands down

AXA bro, I've said it before and I'll say it again...you have good potential but need to be realistic at times. Have you seen the pics of Jrod in contest condition? I'd wager thats 5-6%. I've been there before. It sucks and it is incredibly difficult to get there and maintain for a length of time. I don't honestly know if you can put on a LOT of muscle and diet down to that level naturally in time for the next GBIV without wasting away. You might have the genes to do it but that is statistically unlikely. And if you have any kind of faith in ADP then its a wash.

20 lbs. natty, hahahahahaha!

unattainable without drugs

He didn't specify 20lbs of what.

I myself actually plan on putting on 20 lbs during the holidays in an attempt to finally break 190 for the first time in my life. That 20lbs won't be all muscle.

[nycbull]

we are, we are, 
consider this, I have been only doing this for 9 months, half assing it
and I have a 6 foot 7 inch frame to fill
so 20 pounds in the next year, seems reasonable to me

your dreaming kid, maybe with lots of nice fat around it but not diced.

[Relentless]

we are, we are, 
consider this, I have been only doing this for 9 months, half assing it
and I have a 6 foot 7 inch frame to fill
so 20 pounds in the next year, seems reasonable to me

Bro, you probably won't put on 20 lbs of muscle in one year and diet down to 4%...unless you are on gear or a complete genetic freak of which the like we have never seen.  

Is it possible?  I guess...but it would take a monumental effort with you LIVING and BREATHING bodybuilding and not missing any meals or workouts.  I think that's a bit unrealistic to say you plan on putting 20 lbs in one year's time.  You sure as hell won't reach that goal using TA's principles.

[Relentless]

your dreaming kid, maybe with lots of nice fat around it but not diced.

This kid is a dreamer with sprinkles of delusion.

[nycbull]

This kid is a dreamer with sprinkles of delusion.

well you have taken him on, kids are not easy...are you in for the long haul?

[Relentless]

well you have taken him on, kids are not easy...are you in for the long haul?

He's capable of righting the ship; I actually think he's got potential in certain respects.  He just needs the proper guidance. 

Hopefully I won't let impatience get the better of me and abandon him too soon.

[ASJChaotic]

Bro, you probably won't put on 20 lbs of muscle in one year and diet down to 4%...unless you are on gear or a complete genetic freak of which the like we have never seen.  

Is it possible?  I guess...but it would take a monumental effort with you LIVING and BREATHING bodybuilding and not missing any meals or workouts.  I think that's a bit unrealistic to say you plan on putting 20 lbs in one year's time.  You sure as hell won't reach that goal using TA's principles.

LOL, alright, on here a person has to prove everything, so I guess my time will come to prove myself later on  hahahaha
you call it delusion, I call it having a dream 

[TommyBoy]

LOL, alright, on here a person has to prove everything, so I guess my time will come to prove myself later on  hahahaha
you call it delusion, I call it having a dream 

Having dreams and aspirations is perfectly fine. Just don't set goals wayyyyyy to big. There is that much more disappointment. I'd aim for 10lbs of LBM gained and 6-7% BF for the GBIV for a realistic goal. Even 10lbs is a LOT of lean mass on natural.

[Relentless]

LOL, alright, on here a person has to prove everything, so I guess my time will come to prove myself later on  hahahaha
you call it delusion, I call it having a dream 

Prove it with results, not talk.  As you can well see, many before you have tried to claim accomplishments without any proof - this will make you disliked very quickly.  

Spend less time posting and more time lifting & eating.  Amaze us with your visible progress, not empty boasting.

[Relentless]

20 lbs. natty, hahahahahaha!

unattainable without drugs

The only natties I've seen put on that kind of lean bodyweight have been training for YEARS and lift very very HEAVY.  They also do not miss any workouts and eat around the clock. 

AXA needs to master the fundamentals before he can start talking about putting on 20 lbs of lean mass and hitting 4% body fat. 

[ASJChaotic]

Prove it with results, not talk.  As you can well see, many before you have tried to claim accomplishments without any proof - this will make you disliked very quickly.  

Spend less time posting and more time lifting & eating.  Amaze us with your visible progress, not empty boasting.

I plan on doing this 

but I'm going to sleep now, good night all

[nycbull]

I plan on doing this 

but I'm going to sleep now, good night all

typical ungratefull kid

[IFBBwannaB]

A CALORIE WILL ALWAYS BE A CALORIE no matter what.

This is an absolute and can never change.

A Macronutrient is not a macronutrient.

A calorie is a physical unit thus that statement is true. But since we are not talking about ideal closed physical systems (something you know nothing about) this statement is totally unrelated.

You might as well say that getting electricity from wind is the same as from coal, you're a fool that think he have a clue in physics.

I hope that helped.

[Relentless]

typical ungratefull kid

Lol!

[WillGrant]

Bro, you probably won't put on 20 lbs of muscle in one year and diet down to 4%...unless you are on gear or a complete genetic freak of which the like we have never seen.  

Is it possible?  I guess...but it would take a monumental effort with you LIVING and BREATHING bodybuilding and not missing any meals or workouts.  I think that's a bit unrealistic to say you plan on putting 20 lbs in one year's time.  You sure as hell won't reach that goal using TA's principles.

I cant see him putting on 20pounds of lean tissue naturaly at all..
He can put weight on but only a few pounds of that will be muscle..just doesnt have the genetics..

Realitys a bitch  

[Relentless]

A calorie is a physical unit thus that statement is true. But since we are not talking about ideal closed physical systems (something you know nothing about) this statement is totally unrelated.

You might as well say that getting electricity from wind is the same as from coal, you're a fool that think he have a clue in physics.

I hope that helped.

It should help, but it won't.  TA is a lost cause.

[Relentless]

I cant see him putting on 20pounds of lean tissue naturaly at all..
He can put weight on but only a few pounds of that will be muscle..just doesnt have the genetics..

Realitys a bitch  

Ya know, I'd hate to base too many assumptions off a few pics...but AXA does not have the best genetics for competitive bodybuilding.  Maybe this is why he identifies with TA so much?

He hasn't really applied himself (at least he says), so he'll find out soon enough how difficult it really is to put on that kind of bodyweight.
8-10 lbs would be a MUCH better goal.

[WillGrant]

Ya know, I'd hate to base too many assumptions off a few pics...but AXA does not have the best genetics for competitive bodybuilding.  Maybe this is why he identifies with TA so much?

He hasn't really applied himself (at least he says), so he'll find out soon enough how difficult it really is to put on that kind of bodyweight.
8-10 lbs would be a MUCH better goal.

Agree..first he has to learn how to eat and train properly..1/4 rep squats and this TA bullshit just wont cut it..

[Relentless]

Agree..first he has to learn how to eat and train properly..1/4 rep squats and this TA bullshit just wont cut it..

1/4 squats?  You're kidding!

[onlyme]

The evidence is overwhelmingly NOT in favor of High Protein.

It has simply NEVER been demonstrated to be necessary, efficient or worthwhile.

All that money you guys have been wasting could have been spent elsewhere.

It is clear you truly do not believe in consuming protein.  Your huge muscle structure and density exhibits this without a doubt

[Relentless]

It is clear you truly do not believe in consuming protein.  Your huge muscle structure and density exhibits this without a doubt

His physique speaks for itself, doesn't it?  I think that alone will guarantee a following that will always be minuscule.