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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #100 on: March 21, 2007, 11:02:09 AM »
Don't be a frustraded because you were a failed bodybuilding is other things you can do like coach other bodybuilders.

What is your point Pro NFL player also use oxygen....DO YOU WORK OUT ? DO YOU WATCH FOOTBALL? WHAT IS YOU POINT PLEASE?

Yea but they use oxygen to enhance red blood cell utlization of oxygen  and to enhance peak performance on the field after they just ran back a 90 yard kick off return.

They dont use Oxygen to SURVIVE walking off stage lol

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #101 on: March 21, 2007, 11:04:51 AM »
I know you're aware of what's going on in baseball right now. Nobody says NFL players are saints, they're getting busted every once in a while. Our sport, we call professional bodybuilding is built on Drugs. it is the common denominator

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #102 on: March 21, 2007, 11:08:19 AM »
Yea but they use oxygen to enhance red blood cell utlization of oxygen  and to enhance peak performance on the field after they just ran back a 90 yard kick off return.

They dont use Oxygen to SURVIVE walking off stage lol



lol....I don't know which one is harder. a guy returning a 90 yard kick off, or a guy flexing out for 10 minutes and is dying for oxygen

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #103 on: March 21, 2007, 11:08:37 AM »
Great seems we getting some where. Ok I do agree with you that during the competion itself does not require strength. But again Bobybuilder are judge by the amount of muscle mass/Density/shape that they have. What is a direct correlation with exercise and strength. Please ANYONE ANSWER THIS IF BODYBUILDING IS A BEATY CONTEST HOW CAN A BODYBUILDER MAKE SUCH A DRAMATIC CHANGES ON HIS PLACING YEAR AFTER YEAR...HAS HE GOT MORE BEATIFUL...please let use common sense

Please answer it.....

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #104 on: March 21, 2007, 11:11:38 AM »
it all depends on how you define the word "athlete".

it's similar to arguing the difference between a sport and a game.

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #105 on: March 21, 2007, 11:12:33 AM »
People need to stop referring to bodybuilders as athletes.  A bodybuilding show is all politics, and demonstrate absolutely NO athleticism.  Weightlifting is a quantifiably measurable event, even bowling requires development of an athletic skill where someone has to apply their skill in accurately rolling a ball.  Merely lifting weights, restricting your diet, and taking a shit ton of drugs does not make someone an athlete.  People in competitive sports do all these things also, but they then apply their hard work towards some type of sport, ie...football, rugby, baseball, boxing, etc...
Results of bodybuilding contests are not determined in any way by the athleticism of the competitors.  Do we call Miss USA pageant athletes?  Bodybuilders are the same as these women.  Looking ripped is not a sport.  Would you compare flexxing your front double to throwing a 100 mph fastball?  I wouldn't. 

Stop calling these sideshow freaks athletes.



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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #106 on: March 21, 2007, 11:14:58 AM »
they should have all bodybuilders run a 40 yard dash before precontest.. ;D

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #107 on: March 21, 2007, 11:17:21 AM »
I know you're aware of what's going on in baseball right now. Nobody says NFL players are saints, they're getting busted every once in a while. Our sport, we call professional bodybuilding is built on Drugs. it is the common denominator

It is no.... again no test for GH or IGF-1 avalable. It is obvious the clear abuse of it on ALL major sports and Olympic games. Anyone with minimum understanding of science knows that the majority of today modified anabolics have a half life of only hours. Meaning a athlete could be taking anabolis for the whole week and be completly out of his or her blood by game day. Tests are only to satisfy the general publics perception. The science of Tests are at least 10 behind the anabolics.

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #108 on: March 21, 2007, 11:33:59 AM »
This is the definition you keep quoting
"a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina"
Where in there does it say that the exercises requiring physical strength, agility or stamina have to be exhibited in a competition?  Bodybuilders are in fact skilled in exercises that requires physical strength and stamina, so by your own definition, that would make them athletes.   

So, based on your judgement, would you say fitness competitors are athletes?  They are judged partly on a routine that requires skill, strength and stamina and partly on how they look on stage.

Personally, I don't think anyone can make this judgement unless you've personally been through a contest prep and gotten on stage yourself.....after you do a contest prep and compete, then come back and let us know your opinion.




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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #109 on: March 21, 2007, 11:37:55 AM »
This is the definition you keep quoting
"a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina"
Where in there does it say that the exercises requiring physical strength, agility or stamina have to be exhibited in a competition?  Bodybuilders are in fact skilled in exercises that requires physical strength and stamina, so by your own definition, that would make them athletes.  

So, based on your judgement, would you say fitness competitors are athletes?  They are judged partly on a routine that requires skill, strength and stamina and partly on how they look on stage.

Personally, I don't think anyone can make this judgement unless you've personally been through a contest prep and gotten on stage yourself.....after you do a contest prep and compete, then come back and let us know your opinion.






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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #110 on: March 21, 2007, 11:49:55 AM »
It is no.... again no test for GH or IGF-1 avalable. It is obvious the clear abuse of it on ALL major sports and Olympic games. Anyone with minimum understanding of science knows that the majority of today modified anabolics have a half life of only hours. Meaning a athlete could be taking anabolis for the whole week and be completly out of his or her blood by game day. Tests are only to satisfy the general publics perception. The science of Tests are at least 10 behind the anabolics.


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bodybuilders are athletes same as horse race riders are athletes same as curlers are athletes same as professioal surfers are athletes

we put time into our sports then go and compete agaiinst others from our sport on one stage,,athlete is our definition,,our body is our ball,,our sport is individual dependent and so is our performance



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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #111 on: March 21, 2007, 12:19:40 PM »
It is no.... again no test for GH or IGF-1 avalable. It is obvious the clear abuse of it on ALL major sports and Olympic games. Anyone with minimum understanding of science knows that the majority of today modified anabolics have a half life of only hours. Meaning a athlete could be taking anabolis for the whole week and be completly out of his or her blood by game day. Tests are only to satisfy the general publics perception. The science of Tests are at least 10 behind the anabolics.

Although they are not used often, there in testing for GH and will more than likely be used in the next summer olympics.

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #112 on: March 21, 2007, 02:17:15 PM »
even those who believe that bodybuilding is a "sport" must concede that any activity that involves wearing a speedo or a thong, painting on a fake tan, applying oil all over oneself, and posing to music in front of a mostly male audience is pretty f-ing gay.

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #113 on: March 21, 2007, 02:27:31 PM »
if Golfer john Daly is considered an Athlete, than yes, Bodybuilders are definitely athletes

Professional golf takes Hand-Eye coordination and stamina.

Most BB's can't stand on stage w/o cramping.........nevermi nd stamina.

Golf is a sport.........BB is an activity.

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #114 on: March 21, 2007, 02:29:56 PM »
Are you trying to tell us the NFL,MLB,Boxers,Cyclists.....etc don't use roids!

Please don't compare the DRUG use in ANY sport to B.B.

BB'ers are lab experiments.


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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #115 on: March 21, 2007, 02:32:48 PM »
even those who believe that bodybuilding is a "sport" must concede that any activity that involves wearing a speedo or a thong, painting on a fake tan, applying oil all over oneself, and posing to music in front of a mostly male audience is pretty f-ing gay.


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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #116 on: March 21, 2007, 02:41:08 PM »
if Golfer john Daly is considered an Athlete, than yes, Bodybuilders are definitely athletes


All sports are played.

Golf
Baseball
Football
Basketball
Hockey
Rugby
Darts
Pool
Bowling

Is bodybuilding played like a sport?? Maybe the G4P is the sporting aspect .

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #117 on: March 21, 2007, 03:18:42 PM »

All sports are played.

Golf
Baseball
Football
Basketball
Hockey
Rugby
Darts
Pool
Bowling

Is bodybuilding played like a sport?? Maybe the G4P is the sporting aspect .

you can't play boxing or wrestling

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #118 on: March 21, 2007, 03:27:38 PM »
Don't be a frustraded because you were a failed bodybuilding is other things you can do like coach other bodybuilders.

What is your point Pro NFL player also use oxygen....DO YOU WORK OUT ? DO YOU WATCH FOOTBALL? WHAT IS YOU POINT PLEASE?

Please explain how I failed at bodybuilding? I trained other bodybuilders for a long time up until about 10 years ago then I got into strength and conditioning for high school, college and pro athletes, yes, some NFL players do you oxygen but usually during conditioning drills, not after a posedown to climbing the steps going on to a stage!

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #119 on: March 21, 2007, 04:02:30 PM »
you can't play boxing or wrestling

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Your going to compare B.B. w/ professional boxing? No credibility Earl.

WWE wrestling is a lot like B.B.     Big, oiled up, tanned, juiced up men, flexing and posing in the "ring"  before their fans .

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #120 on: March 21, 2007, 05:42:52 PM »
Main Entry: ath·lete 
Pronunciation: 'ath-"lEt, ÷'a-th&-"lEt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin athleta, from Greek athlEtEs, from athlein to contend for a prize, from athlon prize, contest
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina


Maybe you should look up the defintion of the word "or" as well.
Because nowhere is stated that all of the above has to be acquired to be considered an athlete.
According to your so beloved webster.
An athlete is a person that is trained in exercises. How does that not aplly to a bodybuilder??


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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #121 on: March 21, 2007, 09:03:13 PM »
Your going to compare B.B. w/ professional boxing? No credibility Earl.

WWE wrestling is a lot like B.B.     Big, oiled up, tanned, juiced up men, flexing and posing in the "ring"  before their fans .

boxing can't be played so according to you is it isn't a sport

and I meant "wrestling" as in Olympic wrestling

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #122 on: March 21, 2007, 09:06:41 PM »
boxing can't be played so according to you is it isn't a sport

and I meant "wrestling" as in Olympic wrestling

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Boxing and Olympic wresting take strength, balance, speed, conditioning, muscular endurance and SKILL!

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #123 on: March 21, 2007, 09:12:46 PM »
Boxing and Olympic wresting take strength, balance, speed, conditioning, muscular endurance and SKILL!

yeah so?

can you say the same about bowling or golf?

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Re: are bodybuilders athletes?
« Reply #124 on: March 21, 2007, 09:15:42 PM »
If you have to lift weights and run...then you are an athlete
No, not unless you lift weights or run AS PART of a competition. These are merely a means to an end for a bodybuilder. Some of the laziest fvcks around are one of the best bodybuilders in the world  ;D. That is a HUGE statement about the "sport" of bodybuilding. Bodybuilding maybe considered a sport according to some vague definition, but it defnitely doesnt meet the COMMONLY ACCEPTED  requirement to qualify as a sport. It requires no agility, no balance, no physical endurance, not even physical strength  :-\ wtf kinda "sport" is that?
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