are bodybuilders athletes?

[whodey]

do you consider fitness competitors athletes?

[210 and growing]

we can at least consider natural bodybuilding


is there anything healthy in Pro bodybuilding at all? because I'm tired of hearing the famous phrase, ALL DRUGS

As far as i can see, the ONLY thing that is healthy about pro BB is the actual hour a day they spend in the gym, hell most dont even do any cardio by the sounds of it. The rest of it, the drugs, the feeding your face till the cows come home, the narcs, the G4P, the 15 hours sleep per day - well it dont exactly draw the picture of a healthy lifestyle. But then im no expert

[gordiano]

As far as i can see, the ONLY thing that is healthy about pro BB is the actual hour a day they spend in the gym, hell most dont even do any cardio by the sounds of it. The rest of it, the drugs, the feeding your face till the cows come home, the narcs, the G4P, the 15 hours sleep per day - well it dont exactly draw the picture of a healthy lifestyle. But then im no expert

Good luck getting the idiots to understand your point....

[Devon97]

This is the definition you keep quoting
"a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina"
Where in there does it say that the exercises requiring physical strength, agility or stamina have to be exhibited in a competition?  Bodybuilders are in fact skilled in exercises that requires physical strength and stamina, so by your own definition, that would make them athletes.   

So, based on your judgement, would you say fitness competitors are athletes?  They are judged partly on a routine that requires skill, strength and stamina and partly on how they look on stage.

Personally, I don't think anyone can make this judgement unless you've personally been through a contest prep and gotten on stage yourself.....after you do a contest prep and compete, then come back and let us know your opinion.

"The definition I keep quoting" LOL right bro. its the WEBSTER DICTIONARY DEFINITION. Its not "MY" definition its what we as an educated society(at least some of us) have deemed as an absolute value on what a word means. If you disagree then perhaps you should petition Webster.
UNtil then this is how an ATHLETE is DEFINED>
Main Entry: ath·lete 
Pronunciation: 'ath-"lEt, ÷'a-th&-"lEt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin athleta, from Greek athlEtEs, from athlein to contend for a prize, from athlon prize, contest
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina

YES Fitness competitors ARE Athletes, I explained in the post below.

YES I have done a show before and it was very brutal and alot of suffering but how does alot of SUFFERING make me an athlete?

[Devon97]

do you consider fitness competitors athletes?

YES absolutely!

They have a Fitness ROUND, this round is graded or judged on their PERFORMANCE NOT on how they LOOK. THe 1 piece and 2 piece suite round is where they are judged on appearance.

[tigereyes]

Where in my post did I say you made up the definition.  You completely missed the point.  All I was trying to point out is that according to the definition that YOU keep quoting (as in, copying and pasting from Websters), bodybuilders are in fact athletes.  Bodybuilders are skilled in exercises requiring physical strength, which, according to WEBSTERS makes them athletes.

I'm not saying they are or they are not (its a debate that could go either way, depending on what your particular definition of athlete is). But, the definition that you claim makes them NOT athletes, actually supports the opposite
"a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, OR games requiring physical strength, agility, OR stamina"

So, I do not "disagree" with the definition, I disagree with your interpretation. I am just pointing out that it proves the opposite of what you are trying to prove.

and p.s.--I'm not a bro nor a bodybuilder (hence the question about fitness competitors  )

[Captain Equipoise]

Another definition of 'sport'

"1.   an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc."

from www.dictionary.com

Therefore, bodybuilding is NOT a sport, it's not an athletic activity, it's a pageant show akin to a gay Ms.Universe or Miss America pageant.

hope that helped

[Tamer Razor]

Just a Simple question to all of you that think Bobybuilding is not a Sport and Bodybuilders are not athletes.

So If this is a pageant Show for men. WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE> DO YOU ENJOY OILED MEN>>>?.....Strange

[Croatch]

I'll ask once again since it seemed to escape you...are you competing in a BB show on the 31st??

btw...nice job fucking up your physique..!

Now that was funny.

Competing in something which requires no skill is pretty much a beauty pagent though.  I'd have more respect for the bb events if they were all drug free.  That is a true test as to how you can build your physique.  Once drugs are in the equation, it's just a science experiment.
My favorite is seeing national level competitors go to the gym and bench 135 telling themselves, "I'm working on the mind muscle connection."  Yeah, minus the drugs, see how far that will get you when it comes to real gains.  Classic stuff.

[Tamer Razor]

Now that was funny.

Competing in something which requires no skill is pretty much a beauty pagent though.  I'd have more respect for the bb events if they were all drug free.  That is a true test as to how you can build your physique.  Once drugs are in the equation, it's just a science experiment.
My favorite is seeing national level competitors go to the gym and bench 135 telling themselves, "I'm working on the mind muscle connection."  Yeah, minus the drugs, see how far that will get you when it comes to real gains.  Classic stuff.

Other GENIUS that think that is all Drugs....sure!!! keep dreaming that you are only a few shots away from a PRO...classic delusional to the MAX.....and I am sure you Squat more than Jay....because he just Squats 405....YOU ARE THE MAN

[Mike]

Now that was funny.

Competing in something which requires no skill is pretty much a beauty pagent though.  I'd have more respect for the bb events if they were all drug free.  That is a true test as to how you can build your physique.  Once drugs are in the equation, it's just a science experiment.
My favorite is seeing national level competitors go to the gym and bench 135 telling themselves, "I'm working on the mind muscle connection."  Yeah, minus the drugs, see how far that will get you when it comes to real gains.  Classic stuff.

I usually agree with what you say but you can't tell me you're blind to the fact that a good portion of professional athletes are substance abusers.

[Tamer Razor]

I usually agree with what you say but you can't tell me you're blind to the fact that a good portion of professional athletes are substance abusers.

Right on

[Croatch]

Other GENIUS that think that is all Drugs....sure!!! keep dreaming that you are only a few shots away from a PRO...classic delusional to the MAX.....and I am sure you Squat more than Jay....because he just Squats 405....YOU ARE THE MAN

Translation: I took a ton of gear thinking it would change my genetics and still have a shitty physique.

It's not all drugs, but without them in the equation, Coleman would still be on patrol in Arlington.  Drugs don't equal genetics, but realistcally "pros" would be amateurs.  There's nothing professional about crazy gear usage.  Other sports use them as well, but at least they started with something most bodybuilders don't have, talent. 

[Devon97]

Where in my post did I say you made up the definition.  You completely missed the point.  All I was trying to point out is that according to the definition that YOU keep quoting (as in, copying and pasting from Websters), bodybuilders are in fact athletes.  Bodybuilders are skilled in exercises requiring physical strength, which, according to WEBSTERS makes them athletes.

I'm not saying they are or they are not (its a debate that could go either way, depending on what your particular definition of athlete is). But, the definition that you claim makes them NOT athletes, actually supports the opposite
"a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, OR games requiring physical strength, agility, OR stamina"

So, I do not "disagree" with the definition, I disagree with your interpretation. I am just pointing out that it proves the opposite of what you are trying to prove.

and p.s.--I'm not a bro nor a bodybuilder (hence the question about fitness competitors  )

Once again, at what point during a competition on stage is a bodybuilder required to be trained or skilled in exercises requiring physical strength?
AT NO time during a bodybuilding show is a bodybuilder judged on howtrained or skilled they are in an exercise requiring physical strength , a powerlifter or Olympic lifter, YES but a BBER, NO!
They are judged on how they LOOK, NOT how trained or skilled in exercises requiring physical strengththey are
How this helps sweet cheeks ; )

[Devon97]

Translation: I took a ton of gear thinking it would change my genetics and still have a shitty physique.

It's not all drugs, but without them in the equation, Coleman would still be on patrol in Arlington.  Drugs don't equal genetics, but realistcally "pros" would be amateurs.  There's nothing professional about crazy gear usage.  Other sports use them as well, but at least they started with something most bodybuilders don't have, talent. 

Croatch, that is the smartest thing I have ever heard you say.

[onlyme]

"The definition I keep quoting" LOL right bro. its the WEBSTER DICTIONARY DEFINITION. Its not "MY" definition its what we as an educated society(at least some of us) have deemed as an absolute value on what a word means. If you disagree then perhaps you should petition Webster.
UNtil then this is how an ATHLETE is DEFINED>
Main Entry: ath·lete 
Pronunciation: 'ath-"lEt, ÷'a-th&-"lEt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin athleta, from Greek athlEtEs, from athlein to contend for a prize, from athlon prize, contest
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina

YES Fitness competitors ARE Athletes, I explained in the post below.

YES I have done a show before and it was very brutal and alot of suffering but how does alot of SUFFERING make me an athlete?

Well its obvious Webster doesn't know what he's talking about

[Devon97]

Another definition of 'sport'

"1.   an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc."

from www.dictionary.com

Therefore, bodybuilding is NOT a sport, it's not an athletic activity, it's a pageant show akin to a gay Ms.Universe or Miss America pageant.

hope that helped

Another great point, not only are bodybuilders NOT athletes , Bodybuilding competitions are NOT even a sport.

[The Enigma]

I forgot to add SKILL in that list!

You also forgot Hand-Eye coordination.

[The Enigma]

Another definition of 'sport'

"1.   an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc."

from www.dictionary.com

Therefore, bodybuilding is NOT a sport, it's not an athletic activity, it's a pageant show akin to a gay Ms.Universe or Miss America pageant.

hope that helped

A reasonable accessment.

[Tamer Razor]

Just a Simple question to all of you that think Bobybuilding is not a Sport and Bodybuilders are not athletes.

So If this is a pageant Show for men. WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE> DO YOU ENJOY OILED MEN>>>?.....Strange

NO ANSWERS>>>>UHHHH

[Devon97]

NO ANSWERS>>>>UHHHH

I enjoy making fun of them, ..... like I am doing now

[Mr. Intenseone]

Click on the "AP in action" to see real athletes and examples of how they train

http://www.athletesperformance.com/#locations

[The Enigma]

No, not unless you lift weights or run AS PART of a competition. These are merely a means to an end for a bodybuilder. Some of the laziest fvcks around are one of the best bodybuilders in the world  . That is a HUGE statement about the "sport" of bodybuilding. Bodybuilding maybe considered a sport according to some vague definition, but it defnitely doesnt meet the COMMONLY ACCEPTED  requirement to qualify as a sport. It requires no agility, no balance, no physical endurance, not even physical strength   wtf kinda "sport" is that?

Great accessment.

[The Enigma]

Anyone engage in phisical activity may be defined as an athlete. Hope that helps.

Before dying, my Grandmother ( RIP ) went to Target a lot.....just to walk around for PHYSICAL activity.

I assume she was an athlete then. 

[3Dkiller]

hes a fat piece of shit