Buttsuck vs. SSBG

[ripitupbaby]

It is... IM NOT CUTTING lol. I cut down 70 lbs eating hamburgers and whatever else i wanted. Why do you keep asking this. You could cut down and get lean eating a diet of nothing but butter if you wanted.

Why are you missing MY point then?  You cut down b/c you were calorie restricted.  
My point is that there is NOTHING revolutionary about this.  You and TA act like you've discovered the freakin cure for AIDS or something. 

And I happen to totally agree with what Hedge just posted.  

[Buttsuck]

Why are you missing MY point then?  You cut down b/c you were calorie restricted.  
My point is that there is NOTHING revolutionary about this.  You and TA act like you've discovered the freakin cure for AIDS or something. 

And I happen to totally agree with what Hedge just posted.  

We know it isn't anything new but people can't seem to understand that it works.

[kiwiol]

Jay is probably leaner, he just appears fat because of all the muscle he holds. The point of the adonis principles is to disspell the myth that you have to carry a cooler around with you all day of nothing but chicken breast and rice. Right now i just had 6 eggs and a cup and a half of oatmeal. I eat what i want. I still have high protien. It doesn't mean im eating nothing but sweets all day. I eat about 2 pounds of meat a day. I enjoy what i eat. I don't slave around eating bland foods.

I just used Jay as an example. Hell I could have used Johnnie Jackson who's fatter than me now if I wanted. That's beside the point. The point is, 'The Adonis principles' (which BTW is an open and complete rip-off of Jenny Craig) will help you get lean cause it's based on the principle of caloric deficit (which has been known for decades now), but there's no question that it's VASTLY inferior to the customary bodybuilding pre-contest dieting cause you lose a lot of muscle with the Adonis principles while you lose very little muscle, if not none at all or even maybe gain muscle with a 'traditional' pre-contest diet.

So, that's why you get so much ridicule (rightfully so) cause you think that proof of you being lean also equates to proof of the Adonis principles being on par, if not superior to a traditional diet when it comes to holding on to the gains you made in the off-season, which is absolutely wrong.  In other words, all I'm saying is that your being lean doesn't make you a bodybuilder - you're being muscular does and take my word for it when I say you might gain a little bit of muscle with your current diet, but it's nothing compared to what you could be gaining on a 'sensible, bodybuilding diet'. Your not believing me only goes to show how naive you are, which BTW reflects in your physique.

[wolfgang187]

my money's on Buttsuck!

[kiwiol]

my money's on Buttsuck!

For what? Being the most clueless of them all?

[Buttsuck]

I just used Jay as an example. Hell I could have used Johnnie Jackson who's fatter than me now if I wanted. That's beside the point. The point is, 'The Adonis principles' (which BTW is an open and complete rip-off of Jenny Craig) will help you get lean cause it's based on the principle of caloric deficit (which has been known for decades now), but there's no question that it's VASTLY inferior to the customary bodybuilding pre-contest dieting cause you lose a lot of muscle with the Adonis principles while you lose very little muscle, if not none at all or even maybe gain muscle with a 'traditional' pre-contest diet.
So, that's why you get so much ridicule (rightfully so) cause you think that proof of you being lean also equates to proof of the Adonis principles being on par, if not superior to a traditional diet when it comes to holding on to the gains you made in the off-season, which is absolutely wrong.  In other words, all I'm saying is that your being lean doesn't make you a bodybuilder - you're being muscular does and take my word for it when I say you might gain a little bit of muscle with your current diet, but it's nothing compared to what you could be gaining on a 'sensible, bodybuilding diet'. Your not believing me only goes to show how naive you are, which BTW reflects in your physique.

If you are a natural you won't lose any muscle. Naturally gained muscle is impossible to lose. Look at kevin levrone! Now if you are juiced they will not work as well. Don't try and talk to me like im some johnny come lately. I have more knowledge about this in my little finger then you do in your entire body.

Nonsense, i see fat ass big guys in the gym all the time and am not impressed in the least by them. However if i see a guy who is about 160 and shredded i tend to notice them more. Being big doesn't make you a bodybuilder. Being big and lean makes you a bodybuilder and you being not believing this shows how naive you are. BTW Your physique relfects this. One of my good freinds owned one of your kind in the gym the other day by out deadlifting him. Then he followed him around like a lost puppy all through out his work out trying to one up him.

[wolfgang187]

For what? Being the most clueless of them all?

he's coming together.

[kiwiol]

If you are a natural you won't lose any muscle. Naturally gained muscle is impossible to lose. Look at kevin levrone! Now if you are juiced they will not work as well. Don't try and talk to me like im some johnny come lately. I have more knowledge about this in my little finger then you do in your entire body.

Nonsense, i see fat ass big guys in the gym all the time and am not impressed in the least by them. However if i see a guy who is about 160 and shredded i tend to notice them more. Being big doesn't make you a bodybuilder. Being big and lean makes you a bodybuilder and you being not believing this shows how naive you are. BTW Your physique relfects this. One of my good freinds owned one of your kind in the gym the other day by out deadlifting him. Then he followed him around like a lost puppy all through out his work out trying to one up him.

You've actually got it the other way around. People on the juice will grow with junk food, albeit get a bit fat in the process. Naturals don't have the luxury of being lax about their diet IF they want to retain the muscle they need to work their asses off to accumulate. You say you have more knowledge in your little finger than I do in my whole body and all that goes to show is how incredibly naive you are. Your thinking that way is the exact reason you'll always have the 'boy band' look like your hero (or husband or whatever) and not the look a real man would have. Whatever floats your boat dude. I could try argue with someone who's intelligent enough to comprehend what I'm saying. But if your basic metaphysical premises are completely the opposite of mine, there's no point in us debating issues that are based on those premises.

[Buttsuck]

You've actually got it the other way around. People on the juice will grow with junk food, albeit get a bit fat in the process. Naturals don't have the luxury of being lax about their diet IF they want to retain the muscle they need to work their asses off to accumulate. You say you have more knowledge in your little finger than I do in my whole body and all that goes to show is how incredibly naive you are. Your thinking that way is the exact reason you'll always have the 'boy band' look like your hero (or husband or whatever) and not the look a real man would have. Whatever floats your boat dude. I could try argue with someone who's intelligent enough to comprehend what I'm saying. But if your basic metaphysical premises are completely the opposite of mine, there's no point in us debating issues that are based on those premises.

Your idea of someone who is intelligent enough to comprehend what you are saying is a yes man who agrees with everything you say. You are looking for cock suckers to support your every words (the majority of the squad). I will surpass you in time and you will still be a short fat middle aged man who posts on getbig reminiscing of his days of owning buttsuck while i am out making a life.

[Krankenstein]

Daddywaddy uses the same principles only slighty altered as do i. I don't see what the big deal is.

Umm....we have seen what DW does....and its FAR from what Adam has recommended.  His lifting is far from what Adam recommends or says is "optimal".

[dan18]

You are still missing the point. Why would anyone want to be fat. Sure... being big and lean is awsome. That is what i want. I want to be big and lean. Who wants to be big and sloppy. The point im making is that these guys walk around like they are hot shit when they are nothing but fat slobs with about 50-100 pounds of fat on them yet they don't realize it.

Um no im not missing the point i have no desire to be fat you had the balls to call me out of shape hahahaah.I never said fat means muscle but you have it so beaten
into youre tiny head that if your not seeing ribs and abs then your fat and out of shape.....how long have you been training,how many shows have you done im 40 ive been traing since i was 21 22 ive done a few shows AAU.Ive done the bulking and the dieting been there done that you have a one sided view,thats why you will not progress..    

[Buttsuck]

Umm....we have seen what DW does....and its FAR from what Adam has recommended.  His lifting is far from what Adam recommends or says is "optimal".

Because Adam eats less. That is the only difference between him and DW. DW eats as much as he wants but makes damn sure to burn it off. It is the exact same shit. It is all the same shit. Why cant you see that?

[Hedgehog]

We know it isn't anything new but people can't seem to understand that it works.

You reason nice and well, and you also seem to eat a pretty balanced diet, void of any fast food and lots of healthy food choices.

The thing is that Abeles has claimed that he has developed a formula that he uses to exactly determine, down to the very calorie, the daily caloric expenditure.

Another claim of his is that you can eat whatever you want, it makes no difference. That you could get cut on a beer-only diet.

He also claims he's got some "principles".


I am not going to attach any of Abeles' claims to you, but I think you should be aware of what he's stated in the past.

You seem to eat a balanced diet. Keep on doing your thing.

A serious question though: Why not call it "Buttsuck Principles"? It is, after all, your own idea of how to eat correctly.

-Hedge

[ripitupbaby]

You reason nice and well, and you also seem to eat a pretty balanced diet, void of any fast food and lots of healthy food choices.

The thing is that Abeles has claimed that he has developed a formula that he uses to exactly determine, down to the very calorie, the daily caloric expenditure.

Another claim of his is that you can eat whatever you want, it makes no difference. That you could get cut on a beer-only diet.

He also claims he's got some "principles".

I am not going to attach any of Abeles' claims to you, but I think you should be aware of what he's stated in the past.

You seem to eat a balanced diet. Keep on doing your thing.

A serious question though: Why not call it "Buttsuck Principles"? It is, after all, your own idea of how to eat correctly.

-Hedge

EXACTLY.  And just like buttsuck is saying...it's nothing new at all.

[kiwiol]

Your idea of someone who is intelligent enough to comprehend what you are saying is a yes man who agrees with everything you say. You are looking for cock suckers to support your every words (the majority of the squad). I will surpass you in time and you will still be a short fat middle aged man who posts on getbig reminiscing of his days of owning buttsuck while i am out making a life.

More proof that you're clueless. BTW, given your intelligence, the only way you're going to go up in life is by starting from the bottom, as in the bottom of whomever you have to suck off hahahahahaha.

[Buttsuck]

More proof that you're clueless. BTW, given your intelligence, the only way you're going to go up in life is by starting from the bottom, as in the bottom of whomever you have to suck off hahahahahaha.

Another insightful and brilliant response by kiwiol 

[Krankenstein]

Because Adam eats less. That is the only difference between him and DW. DW eats as much as he wants but makes damn sure to burn it off. It is the exact same shit. It is all the same shit. Why cant you see that?

Wow....so eating as much as you want and burning it off is Adams principle???  Sweet mother of god boy, are you saying that if Adam said the suns sets in the west and thus tomorrow it will rise in the east that its HIS priniciple?  The basic common damn sense!!!!!!!!

DW is in his own little world.....what Adam says and what DW does are not entirely the same!  Because I shop at a grocery store, and Adam recommends food like ice cream....does that mean the way I eat is essentially Adams prinicples??   

[Buttsuck]

Wow....so eating as much as you want and burning it off is Adams principle???  Sweet mother of god boy, are you saying that if Adam said the suns sets in the west and thus tomorrow it will rise in the east that its HIS priniciple?  The basic common damn sense!!!!!!!!

DW is in his own little world.....what Adam says and what DW does are not entirely the same!  Because I shop at a grocery store, and Adam recommends food like ice cream....does that mean the way I eat is essentially Adams prinicples??   

Hahahah wow thx for proving my point that you are a moron. Here let me give you a piece of advice that i cannot stress. L I S T E N. READ CAREFULLY.

[Buttsuck]

You reason nice and well, and you also seem to eat a pretty balanced diet, void of any fast food and lots of healthy food choices.

The thing is that Abeles has claimed that he has developed a formula that he uses to exactly determine, down to the very calorie, the daily caloric expenditure.

Another claim of his is that you can eat whatever you want, it makes no difference. That you could get cut on a beer-only diet.
He also claims he's got some "principles".


I am not going to attach any of Abeles' claims to you, but I think you should be aware of what he's stated in the past.

You seem to eat a balanced diet. Keep on doing your thing.

A serious question though: Why not call it "Buttsuck Principles"? It is, after all, your own idea of how to eat correctly.

-Hedge

Technically he is right.... you'd be malnourished but you can get cut on a beer only diet.

[benjamin pearson]

Technically he is right.... you'd be malnourished but you can get cut on a beer only diet.

the point is holdiong onto muscle though not just cutting

[Buttsuck]

the point is holdiong onto muscle though not just cutting

Naturally gained muscle does not come off easy.

[kiwiol]

Naturally gained muscle does not come off easy.

Not entirely true, but even assuming that's the case, why do you say it, cause I don't see any muscle on you. You're just a skinny bag of bones, Slim

[Hedgehog]

Technically he is right.... you'd be malnourished but you can get cut on a beer only diet.

That's where you and he are of different opinions.

He believes in this type of diet:

Cookies, Mcdonalds,Ben and Jerrys, Burger King EVERYDAY, EVERY MEAL!

I would have it no other way.

-Hedge

[benjamin pearson]

Naturally gained muscle does not come off easy.

I agree... the problem is some amount of protein is required.... but looking at what you eat it seems to be pretty good..... btw  I am no expert and I know your not seeking my approval im just saying it looks good to me

[Buttsuck]

Not entirely true, but even assuming that's the case, why do you say it, cause I don't see any muscle on you. You're just a skinny bag of bones, Slim

I agree. I didn't have that much muscle to begin with. Realistically i probably put on 10 pounds of muscle last year. Doesn't mean im stuck in my state. You make it sound as if ill never gain any more muscle.