Just ur opinions please

[davie]

Guys i currently use met-rx 'extreme size up' (and no i didnt get it for the name b4 some of u say anything), it was great value for money and i got £20 off.

I get 80 grams carbs, 54grams protein, 3 grams creatine and 3grams glutamine per serving (one a day).

I am either thinking of getting a cheaper shake (weiders 'builder' shake is £10 for 32 grams protein & 18 grams carbs) to add to breakfast and lunch.

OR im thinking of getting creatine. My choices in this department are 'creapure' creatine....500gram tubb for £16....OR 'pro lab' creatine monohydrate 2x 300gram tubbs for £20.

Obviously paying £4 more for an extra 100grams is good, so that put the pro lab ahead i guess.

So wandering wether to get the cheaper protein/carb shake to take wi brekkie and lunch OR get sum creatine?

What ever i choose il also be taking the met-rx shake (i like this one).

My only concern is that the met-rx shake has 3grams creatine already in it, only taken once a day tho, do u think my getting an outright creatine shake will mean im then taking too much creatine??

thanks guys.

davie

[DK II]

take the creapure, it's the best creatine there is. Made by degussa.

dump the met-rx when the can is through and then get a protein powder and some dextrose.

creatine first thing in the morning, before and after training.

max 6g a day.

[davie]

I actually like the met-rx, gives me 3grams creatine straight after workout+loads protein (more than id get in most protein shakes) + carbs etc.

Max 6 grams a day really, thought it was more?

Id take 2 grams 1st thing, 2 grams b4 workout and 3 grams after. (i know that 7 grams).

The prolab creatine (the better deal) is creapure creatine?!

davie

[DK II]

I actually like the met-rx, gives me 3grams creatine straight after workout+loads protein (more than id get in most protein shakes) + carbs etc.

Max 6 grams a day really, thought it was more?

Id take 2 grams 1st thing, 2 grams b4 workout and 3 grams after. (i know that 7 grams).

The prolab creatine (the better deal) is creapure creatine?!

davie

no i don't think the prolab is creapure. just look at the label, if it's creapure it has a sign.

[davie]

no i don't think the prolab is creapure. just look at the label, if it's creapure it has a sign.

http://www.bodysourceonline.co.uk/products/2-Pro-Lab-Creapure-Creatine-300g-Buy-1-Get-1-FREE-1289.aspx

Check that out bro, if im wrong i appologise, but i think its a creapure creatine.

Am i right with the amount to take, 2g's in morning, 2g's about an hour b4 workout, and then il take my other shake which already has 3g's creatine in it.

davie

[DK II]

http://www.bodysourceonline.co.uk/products/2-Pro-Lab-Creapure-Creatine-300g-Buy-1-Get-1-FREE-1289.aspx

Check that out bro, if im wrong i appologise, but i think its a creapure creatine.

Am i right with the amount to take, 2g's in morning, 2g's about an hour b4 workout, and then il take my other shake which already has 3g's creatine in it.

davie

looks ok like that!

[Lugar]

Davie - 750 cals in y first meal too many>  ?  Do I need to space it out more...total for the day is just over 3k....

[davie]

looks ok like that!

Kul, i gotta order moe  supps next week so il try this too. 2gs with brekkie, 2 grams an hour b4 workouts and 3 grams after.

Do u think i should bother with the loading phase??
Iv heard mixed reviews on it.

davie

[DK II]

Kul, i gotta order moe  supps next week so il try this too. 2gs with brekkie, 2 grams an hour b4 workouts and 3 grams after.

Do u think i should bother with the loading phase??
Iv heard mixed reviews on it.

davie

No loading, you're already taking 7g a day. On non training days, make it 4-5g in the morining with breakfast. that's all. No loading crap, it's a waste of money.

[Lugar]

Davie - Serious note...I got a few cases of the myoplex rtd powder packets fortified with glutamine, etc.  40+ g of proein, 2-3g of fat...25 carbs....plus a mess load of bars, low sugar....my buddy is sponsopred by EAS and I'll never finish them...let me send some to you and save you some $$.....pm me.  Seriously.  Who food is 100x beter anyways.......

[Rimbaud]

Davie - Serious note...I got a few cases of the myoplex rtd powder packets fortified with glutamine, etc.  40+ g of proein, 2-3g of fat...25 carbs....plus a mess load of bars, low sugar....my buddy is sponsopred by EAS and I'll never finish them...let me send some to you and save you some $$.....pm me.  Seriously.  Who food is 100x beter anyways.......

Just to help you out davie lives in the UK. It'll cost ya a ton to send them to him (even the cheapest way will be a lot).

[davie]

Cheers lugar but as rim said im a bonny scot, so il have to decline the offer.

Kul i gotta order more weight gain next week+ il order sum creatine.
7g's a day sounds good (5 on non training days).

cheers bro's

davie

[DK II]

Cheers lugar but as rim said im a bonny scot, so il have to decline the offer.

Kul i gotta order more weight gain next week+ il order sum creatine.
7g's a day sounds good (5 on non training days).

cheers bro's

davie

fuck the weight gainer. get protein powder and mix that with oatmeal and olive oil.

[Tapeworm]

fuck the weight gainer. get protein powder and mix that with oatmeal and olive oil.

Yes.  Or a jug o' egg whites + oatmeal... you'll get used to it. 

[davie]

fuck the weight gainer. get protein powder and mix that with oatmeal and olive oil.

I here u mate, and im not saying im a slight guy or anything, but the weight gainer agrees with me (protein/carb wise etc), and its pretty good on the old purse strings.

Il re-orde that+creatine on monday.

Gonna cycle both, 3 weeks on 1 week off. then repeat.

davie

[Lugar]

where are these shakes going o fit into your diet bro?  Can I get an idea of your meal schedule.....very curious since you are bulking too!@

[G.R.H.]

what are your current stats/size?  some people i know put their creatine right in with their protein shakes, and some protein shakes actually have creatine in them already. 

[davie]

what are your current stats/size?  some people i know put their creatine right in with their protein shakes, and some protein shakes actually have creatine in them already. 

Hey bro, my weight gainer has creatine in it, 3 grams in it+3 grams glutamine.

+im gonna take 2 grams in the morning with brekkie, +2 grams just b4 workout.

Then my weight gainer shake after workout.

davie

[davie]

Ordered more supps last nite, iv had this week off them.

Gonnna keep cycling my weight gainer and creatine use, 3 weeks on and 1 week off. SOund ok with everyone?!

I have quite alot of experience of taking protien etc, but i gotta say the creatin side is new to me.

I wander why companys always try and get you to have a loading phase, probs just to get you to use it up quicker.

davie

[Lugar]

have you upped your cals too?

[davie]

yup

davie

[Lugar]

WHAT SHAKE are you going with?  Macros?

[davie]

WHAT SHAKE are you going with?  Macros?

I dont count every calorie i take or xactly how much carbs/fat. i know roughly, within 1o grams of the exact amount id say.

Its not neccessary to be so exact. Stop worrying so much.

Lift eat, rest, eat....repeat.

davie

[Lugar]

so where do you think you are macro wise?  Gaining naturally right now?  Cardio is just rugby?

Scale isnt doing much, might need tio add in some more foods?

[davie]

Yup cardio is just rugby, 2 training sessions a week+a a80minute game, trust me, its v hard.

davie