GERMAN JUDGE RULES KORAN ALLOWS WIFE ABUSE *UPDATE*

[G o a t b o y]

Christianity is just as bad as Islam.  At base it's the same fuccking religion, and they both suck.  The only reason they're perceived differently is that Christianity is about 500 years ahead of Islam in toning down some of its more objectionable parts and making itself more adaptable in the modern age.  But seriously...   the Christianity of 500 years ago is very similar to the Islam of today.

[Deedee]

Christianity is just as bad as Islam.  At base it's the same fuccking religion, and they both suck.  The only reason they're perceived differently is that Christianity is about 500 years ahead of Islam in toning down some of its more objectionable parts and making itself more adaptable in the modern age.  But seriously...   the Christianity of 500 years ago is very similar to the Islam of today.

You're being kind.  I would say 250 years.

[Deedee]

  Outrageous.  This is just sick.

I remembered that story because it was all over the news, and people thought the judge had a psychotic break. Get the feeling, judges being as fallible as anyone else, are sometimes affected by their own feelings and prejudices... and are in a position to say "screw it, you're part of this objectionable ideology, now go wallow in it."

[ToxicAvenger]

Christianity is just as bad as Islam.  At base it's the same fuccking religion, and they both suck.  The only reason they're perceived differently is that Christianity is about 500 years ahead of Islam in toning down some of its more objectionable parts and making itself more adaptable in the modern age.  But seriously...   the Christianity of 500 years ago is very similar to the Islam of today.

you and i both know goat most of the educated muslim population does not believe that..they interpret the koran differently..plus nords taking this from fundie christian sites..

as you know..most of the night clubs in DC and G-town are muslim arab owned .. (panaroma productions...Masood A and his crew)


<   the ones if you r black they'll look at your shoes and say "wrong shoes cant go in" but if you r a white blondie chick you can drink for free lol..sad>

[Nordic Superman]

G o a t b o y, Deedee post some evidence for your stance.

Toxic, you don't interpret the word of god. It's definitive - there is no room for interpretation. It's says what it says - 100% correct in EVER instance - God makes NO mistakes.

[ToxicAvenger]

G o a t b o y, Deedee post some evidence for your stance.

Toxic, you don't interpret the word of god.

yeah there is..its SAYS in the koran that people may interpret the world of god differently..and those that do so to be cruel to women and children are as bad as kafirs (non believers)..

there is NO pope in the muslim world..every individual is left to their own interpretation..   

[Nordic Superman]

yeah there is..its SAYS in the koran that people may interpret the world of god differently..and those that do so to be cruel to women and children are as bad as kafirs (non believers)..

False

there is NO pope in the muslim world..every individual is left to their own interpretation..   

Catholicism != Christianity

[Dos Equis]

I remembered that story because it was all over the news, and people thought the judge had a psychotic break. Get the feeling, judges being as fallible as anyone else, are sometimes affected by their own feelings and prejudices... and are in a position to say "screw it, you're part of this objectionable ideology, now go wallow in it."

I agree.  I think judges always bring their entire life experience to the table.

[ToxicAvenger]

False

ahhh you bitter angry little man...  

i can now almost bet $ that some brownie porked your girl..

[Deedee]

G o a t b o y, Deedee post some evidence for your stance.

Toxic, you don't interpret the word of god. It's definitive - there is no room for interpretation. It's says what it says - 100% correct in EVER instance - God makes NO mistakes.

I'm not going to plow through 17 miles of internet threads for you... but  come on!  The Spanish Inquisition didn't end until the early 1800's. Go take a look through some history books and you'll find interesting torture methods of all kinds, designed especially for heretics. Disembowellings, burnings at the stake, too disgusting to mention them all... and these were all for public consumption. Small children were thrown into prison for stealing a loaf of bread well into the 1800's. What about the Salem witch hunts? Russian pogroms against the Jews. I could go on and on...

[Nordic Superman]

ahhh you bitter angry little man... 

i can now almost bet $ that some brownie porked your girl..

I'm not angry, but what you say is false. Simple as that. Can't put it any simpler for you.

False with the last sentance too, pretty weak comeback, totally over used by you. Shows how low your intelligence is, your mind is aligning that fabricated issue with my criticism of islam - a religion. Your degree of education stinks; to you, religion and race aren't exclusive, they're one.

[ToxicAvenger]

I'm not angry, but what you say is false.

ok prove it.. 

i've actually read the koran 2ice..back 2 front..you haven't 

 

now if you WANT to believe muslims r an evil scruge , then its a free world..thats totally up to you..

[ToxicAvenger]

I'm not going to plow through 17 miles of internet threads for you... but  come on!  The Spanish Inquisition didn't end until the early 1800's. Go take a look through some history books and you'll find interesting torture methods of all kinds, designed especially for heretics. Disembowellings, burnings at the stake, too disgusting to mention them all... and these were all for public consumption. Small children were thrown into prison for stealing a loaf of bread well into the 1800's. What about the Salem witch hunts? Russian pogroms against the Jews. I could go on and on...

you do realize deedles that now he's gonna follow you around getbig for a few months trying to pwn ya.. 


well better you than me 

[Nordic Superman]

I'm not going to plow through 17 miles of internet threads for you... but  come on!  The Spanish Inquisition didn't end until the early 1800's. Go take a look through some history books and you'll find interesting torture methods of all kinds, designed especially for heretics. Disembowellings, burnings at the stake, too disgusting to mention them all... and these were all for public consumption. Small children were thrown into prison for stealing a loaf of bread well into the 1800's. What about the Salem witch hunts? Russian pogroms against the Jews. I could go on and on...

Right, you see it's easier to de-attached Christianity from these acts due to the circumstances and the fact that none of these issues were prescribed by Christianity.

The Spanish Inquisition was to benefit the Spanish Empire building phases, allowing it to remain competitive against Britain. Please also note the ideology here was Catholicism. Is Catholicism == Christianity? No, refute it if you believe otherwise - i'm interested to see your responce.

Interesting methods of killing and torturing aren't prescribed by the bible. I don't even think the koran prescribes individual torturing and killing methods beyond beheading and chopping off hands and fingers for certain criminal acts or against non-believers.

Salem witch hunts is an isolated and complex case where social behaviour and group thinking is more the cause, certainly not prescribe by Christianity.

Research the "Pogroms": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom

Please do go on with your stance, but this time, link it directly to what Christianity prescribes as I have done countlessly with islam.

[Nordic Superman]

ok prove it.. 

i've actually read the koran 2ice..back 2 front..you haven't 

I'm afraid I've read it and continue to research many different religions continually.

now if you WANT to believe muslims r an evil scruge , then its a free world..thats totally up to you..

Muslims are individuals. Islam is evil. Islam != muslims. Muslims are the perpetrators of the evils of islam.

[ToxicAvenger]

I'm afraid I've read it and continue to research many different religions continually.

now THAT is a lie...

i just dont see you going into a mosque buying one..

[Nordic Superman]

now THAT is a lie...

i just dont see you going into a mosque buying one..

Oh shit yeah, you've got me! You actually have to goto a mosque these days to buy a copy of the koran

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=koran+English+Translation+&btnG=Search

You really are stupid

[tu_holmes]

False

Catholicism != Christianity

True, but Catholicism is the OLDEST form of Christian church.

[ToxicAvenger]

Oh shit yeah, you've got me! You actually have to goto a mosque these days to buy a copy of the koran

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=koran+English+Translation+&btnG=Search

still dont quite seeing you reading about something that ya hate soo much..

[tu_holmes]

still dont quite seeing you reading about something that ya hate soo much..

I ain't reading it... I don't hate it, but I'm not spending my time reading stuff I'm not in to... I had to read the Bible as a kid and I'm not doing that antmore either.

[Nordic Superman]

True, but Catholicism is the OLDEST form of Christian church.

And? What's your next point? Does this nominate the other Christians as guilty for the ways of the Catholic church?

Toxic: know thy enemy.

[tu_holmes]

And? What's your next point? Does this nominate the other Christians as guilty for the ways of the Catholic church?

Toxic: know thy enemy.

My point is that most of the belief systems that Christians adhere to are directly related to the Catholic church... I'm not saying anyone is guilty of anything, but I do think that when you look back at Christianity as a whole, you have to look at where it came from and the wrong doings that have been done by that lineage.

[Nordic Superman]

My point is that most of the belief systems that Christians adhere to are directly related to the Catholic church... I'm not saying anyone is guilty of anything, but I do think that when you look back at Christianity as a whole, you have to look at where it came from and the wrong doings that have been done by that lineage.

Evidence? It'd be more accurate if you reversed it.

[tu_holmes]

Evidence? It'd be more accurate if you reversed it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

Done by the Catholic church... You may disagree of course.

[Nordic Superman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

Done by the Catholic church... You may disagree of course.

Yes, it is the reverse of your point. Read the Wiki article.