Author Topic: Orville Burke? what happened after he came out of coma? (Read 54273 times)

El Guapo · « **Reply #25 on:** March 25, 2007, 02:04:53 PM »

Quote from: YoungBlood on March 25, 2007, 01:44:44 PM

http://www.getbig.com/almanac/men/men-b.htm

Here's another snippet about him working for Trump.

GH- what is the Nicole Vicky story?

I think thats anna nicole smith?

Special Ed · « **Reply #26 on:** March 25, 2007, 04:44:54 PM »

Orville did work for the Trump Org. as a security guard for a few years, but I believe he was one of several security guards who worked at the Trump HQ on 5th Avenue at the front desk and lobby area. From my conversations with Orville, I do not believe he was part of Trump's personal security detail. It is extremely doubtful that this security position provides any financial benefit today.

Orville trained at several gyms in Brooklyn and Manhattan, including Steel Gym on 23rd, Hardcore downtown, 5th Avenue Gym in Brooklyn, and Golds in Brooklyn Heights. Other notable Brooklyn Heights Gold's Gym patrons: Nick Lachey, Beyonce Knowles, and Special Ed.

Orville was a quiet guy and very private. When he told friends that he was gonna win the Night of Champions in 2001 and someone (me) posted that online, Orville got very upset.

Orville was married to a very nice professional (non-industry) woman. She worked full-time and was very $upportive of Orville.

When I hung out with him in 2001, he told me his contract with Iron-Tek was paying him $12,000 PER YEAR. At the time Iron-Tek was owned/controlled by Steve Weinberger. Orville could have gotten much more money from another company but he was loyal to Steve. In May, 2001, Orville won the Night of Champions ($15,000). He surprised many people by taking 6th at the Olympia that year ($25,000). He never parlayed his placings into a meaningful or lucrative endorsement contract. 2001 was by far his most lucrative year as a Pro in terms of contest earnings. In 2002, he only competed once and took 9th at the Olympia.

Orville used to use Victor Munoz as his contest-prep/trainer/guru. During the taping of Battle for the Olympia 2000, Victor wanted Orville to give him a "plug" as his trainer and asked Orville to do this to help Victor's PT business and reputation. Orville refused, stating that he felt it would look amateurish for a 'Pro' to admit to having a 'trainer'. After that Victor no longer worked with Orville. I liked Victor and his training methods a lot and he went on to help Victor Martinez and Wong Hong get their pro cards and achieve great results.

I lost touch with Orville sometime in 2002. People who would know more about him would be Weinberger, Victor Munoz, Victor Martinez, NPC National contender Kert McLean, who also trained at Gold's at that time and was in the loop, and former NPC National contender Ron Brown who trained at Steel but knows everything about everyone.

Special "The Source" Ed

Forka · « **Reply #27 on:** March 25, 2007, 09:09:35 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on March 25, 2007, 01:38:57 PM

what is there to say? chad fucked him up most likely some how some where,,if its not out its for a reason,,you cant prove wrong doing when you are aware of what you take and do it anyway way before someone started to work with you,,thats why no case is winnable in court for a bodybuilder or powerlifter when it comes to drugs,,we use it all the time and we become collectors of the items,,we cant blame anyone but ourselves in the final run,and thats why courts wont even pee twards our direction,,infact they might arrest throw us behind bars just for the heck of it

the anastisia stories are all nice,,like the nicole vicky stories are good,,stories are nice,,i always like stories,,my favorite story is the sleeping beauty

Is there any information about Orville Burke, in terms of his current health condition? Why isn't anyone talking about this? Why is CHAD still allowed to advise people? What is with all this bullshit about giving people crushed pills, and the client NOT knowing what they're taking? This sort of b.s should be out-lawed.

Sergio Rules 77 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 25, 2007, 09:22:25 PM »

Quote from: YoungBlood on March 25, 2007, 01:44:44 PM

http://www.getbig.com/almanac/men/men-b.htm

Here's another snippet about him working for Trump.

GH- what is the Nicole Vicky story?

Orville was/is good friends with Trump. I read an interview where Orville said that there would always be a job there for him when he retired from BB, this was about 5-6 years ago. I hope he is doing OK, very weird how no one knows much about this.

SERGIO!!!!

Playboy · « **Reply #29 on:** March 26, 2007, 05:32:44 AM »

Quote from: Explosive Power on March 25, 2007, 06:21:46 AM

In 2002 Orville Burke had tricep surgery for a tear he got while doing a photoshoot with a photographer who insists on the pros using max weights during the shoot, he was up to his eyes in juice at the time, and the doctors strongly recommended he did not have go under in this state, due to unstable blood pressure,

Big Orville didnt wake up from that Op for 6 weeks,

what happened next?

anyone know

I heard he went in for a very routine elbow surgery and it developed into a serious infection. Who knows. I hope he's doing alright.

PB

The_Punisher · « **Reply #30 on:** March 26, 2007, 05:51:07 AM »

thank God he's still alive. He almost became another casualty of this great sport we call bodybuilding

240 is Back · « **Reply #31 on:** March 26, 2007, 05:52:57 AM »

One thing about Chad...

No matter what claims have been made about alleged past damage and very sick athletes, they all see the condition that Ronnie brings consistently, and many accept the risk.

Forka · « **Reply #32 on:** March 26, 2007, 08:46:16 AM »

Quote from: Explosive Power on March 25, 2007, 06:21:46 AM

In 2002 Orville Burke had tricep surgery for a tear he got while doing a photoshoot with a photographer who insists on the pros using max weights during the shoot, he was up to his eyes in juice at the time, and the doctors strongly recommended he did not have go under in this state, due to unstable blood pressure,

Big Orville didnt wake up from that Op for 6 weeks,

what happened next?

anyone know

BUMP!!!

Croatch · « **Reply #33 on:** March 26, 2007, 10:32:33 AM »

You have to hand it to pro bodybuilders. Despite all the health risks and low paychecks, they keep injecting themselves for our entertainment.

kyomu · « **Reply #34 on:** March 26, 2007, 10:36:30 AM »

Quote from: Croatch on March 26, 2007, 10:32:33 AM

You have to hand it to pro bodybuilders. Despite all the health risks and low paychecks, they keep injecting themselves for our entertainment.

Right.

Special Ed · « **Reply #35 on:** March 26, 2007, 11:48:31 AM »

Quote from: Croatch on March 26, 2007, 10:32:33 AM

You have to hand it to pro bodybuilders. Despite all the health risks and low paychecks, they keep injecting themselves for our entertainment.

It's not for your entertainment...it's for their continued delusion that the rewards outweigh the risks. With the steroid crackdown and the mass media hysteria, it's only a matter of time before EVERY SINGLE PRO is having their homes raided and telephones tapped.

The risks have increased, but have the rewards?

Special "ThoughtCriminal" Ed

Croatch · « **Reply #36 on:** March 26, 2007, 03:23:50 PM »

Quote

With the steroid crackdown and the mass media hysteria, it's only a matter of time before EVERY SINGLE PRO is having their homes raided and telephones tapped.

Yeah, don't think that one is happening. What is it the authorities are waiting for? However, it would be hysterical to see 40 pros go to jail, then come out minus 50lbs of muscle.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 27, 2007, 08:45:27 AM »

yep what gh15 is probably true, surgery etc just a smoke screen.

as for money, orville was rumored to have some female benefactors...

lots of rich female lawyers etc in the NY area, several "sponsor" strippers and bodybuilders.

IceCold · « **Reply #38 on:** March 27, 2007, 09:34:20 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on March 25, 2007, 12:20:12 PM

It was posted on here by someone who also set Orville was financially comfortable. Hopefully the latter is correct.

OB used to work for donald trump.

rudylrichards · « **Reply #39 on:** March 27, 2007, 01:08:20 PM »

"Apparently it took him a while just to learn how to walk and talk again"

I spoke to alot of his friends who said this also. I saw him a few months after this happened crossing the street with his wife. He wa walking very much like someone who had a stroke. I didn't recognize him at 1st because he was obviously alot smaller at the point. If it wasn't for his wife i probably wouldn't have recognized him.

I was told by many of his friends that he had a hard time differenciating between his long and short term memory. According to his friends, his wife is very private and wants to keep him away from his former life and the bodybuilding crowd. That's more than likely the cause of the lack of info about Orville as opposed to anyone trying to keep it quiet

HUGEPECS · « **Reply #40 on:** March 27, 2007, 01:11:18 PM »

Quote from: Special Ed on March 26, 2007, 11:48:31 AM

It's not for your entertainment...it's for their continued delusion that the rewards outweigh the risks. With the steroid crackdown and the mass media hysteria, it's only a matter of time before EVERY SINGLE PRO is having their homes raided and telephones tapped.

The risks have increased, but have the rewards?

Special "ThoughtCriminal" Ed

lol....I think being big and invincible, at least that's what they think, outweighs the risks....

Forka · « **Reply #41 on:** March 27, 2007, 01:59:10 PM »

Quote from: Explosive Power on March 25, 2007, 06:21:46 AM

In 2002 Orville Burke had tricep surgery for a tear he got while doing a photoshoot with a photographer who insists on the pros using max weights during the shoot, he was up to his eyes in juice at the time, and the doctors strongly recommended he did not have go under in this state, due to unstable blood pressure,

Big Orville didnt wake up from that Op for 6 weeks,

what happened next?

anyone know

BUMP!!!

phyxsius · « **Reply #42 on:** March 27, 2007, 02:00:03 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on March 25, 2007, 12:16:00 PM

That was during the Battle for the Olympia 2000. He turned 44 last week actually, but claims to be 45 for some reason.

A year faster to get senior concession card?

Marty Champions · « **Reply #43 on:** March 27, 2007, 08:21:53 PM »

why didnt they just give orville some weed and alcohol for his surgery instead of those dangerous compounds? doctors are fuckin stupid

Bodies · « **Reply #44 on:** March 27, 2007, 09:26:09 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on March 25, 2007, 01:38:57 PM

what is there to say? chad fucked him up most likely some how some where,,if its not out its for a reason,,you cant prove wrong doing when you are aware of what you take and do it anyway way before someone started to work with you,,thats why no case is winnable in court for a bodybuilder or powerlifter when it comes to drugs,,we use it all the time and we become collectors of the items,,we cant blame anyone but ourselves in the final run,and thats why courts wont even pee twards our direction,,infact they might arrest throw us behind bars just for the heck of it

the anastisia stories are all nice,,like the nicole vicky stories are good,,stories are nice,,i always like stories,,my favorite story is the sleeping beauty

Gh - when you say anastisia do you mean anesthesia? are you implying that the injury/surgery/anesthesia story is completely fabricated - a coverup of what really happened???

Bodies · « **Reply #45 on:** March 27, 2007, 09:27:47 PM »

where does everyone get that story about what happened to Orville - was it just one tiny paragraph in an old issue of Flex magazine - that's the only place I ever remember seeing it

bailey · « **Reply #46 on:** March 27, 2007, 10:32:51 PM »

I'll just ad my 2 cents. I was a med student, and Anabolic pharmacology is not something med students study at all. I am into bodybuilding so that was something I studied quite a bit more than my fellow class mates.There can be complications involved when a high level of ( AAS ) has been used prior to surgery. Precautionary measures should be taken by both the surgeons and the patient. All I'm saying is if you have to undergo surgery involving anesthesia . IE..( Not local ) Just tell your surgeon and there are many things to look for and prevent to make sure you will have very little to no complications. ( When surgery is involved though ) anything can happen.
On that note. I hope Orville is doing well. Never have I heard anyone say one negative word about the man.
**** Life is short my friends. Cherish it !

Spike · « **Reply #47 on:** March 28, 2007, 06:36:55 AM »

Roc Shabazz told me at Jr Usa's in 06 that Orville was in a nursing home -- not sure if he said he was walking but not fully functioning as an adult

--I met him when I won teen states, he guest posed, was a nice guy

Bronx · « **Reply #48 on:** March 28, 2007, 06:51:21 AM »

I did a phone interview with Orville a few months after he had returned home after being released, and although his speech was slower, he was either mis-informed by his doc or under the dis-illusion, that he would be training again soon. He said he couldn't wait to get back to it, and what are you supposed to say to that? After that, the phone numbers changed as they often do, and I haven't heard anyone talk to him in a while.

YoungBlood · « **Reply #49 on:** March 28, 2007, 10:58:56 AM »

Quote from: Bronx on March 28, 2007, 06:51:21 AM

I did a phone interview with Orville a few months after he had returned home after being released, and although his speech was slower, he was either mis-informed by his doc or under the dis-illusion, that he would be training again soon. He said he couldn't wait to get back to it, and what are you supposed to say to that? After that, the phone numbers changed as they often do, and I haven't heard anyone talk to him in a while.

Seems like a lot of people had contact with Orville (directly or indirectly) immediately following the accident. But then that's where information becomes sparse.
Now we have that Orville may have been in a nursing home, he may or may not have been walking properly, and others say his speech is slurred.
Was there someone on the grassy knoll (judging panel) that wanted Orville off the contest stage?