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Getbig V
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« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2007, 07:57:35 AM » |
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squadfather=OWNED
Good built Dan! Need little bit more guns though... |
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dan18
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« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2007, 08:16:39 AM » |
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Good built Dan! Need little bit more guns though...
in that shot you really dont see the tris my arms are 18 1/2 thanks man... |
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dan18
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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2007, 08:29:14 AM » |
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hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE LAUGHTER OF A MAN WHO HAS LOST ALL DIGNITY. |
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kyomu
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Getbig V
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« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2007, 08:33:25 AM » |
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in that shot you really dont see the tris my arms are 18 1/2 thanks man...
How tall are you? |
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The Squadfather
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« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2007, 08:35:10 AM » |
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THE LAUGHTER OF A MAN WHO HAS LOST ALL DIGNITY.
capital letters meltdown. |
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Overload
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« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2007, 08:45:16 AM » |
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Horrible. I'd like to know who the judges were for that meet. A complete disgrace to powerlifting.  |
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Patrick_Bateman
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« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2007, 08:47:15 AM » |
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it aint powerlifting if it aint raw
I agree 100% Raw powerlifting rules |
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MisterMagoo
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« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2007, 08:58:35 AM » |
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the problem with APF judges is the exact opposite of the problem with IPF judges. in the APF, they really want to see records broken so if someone is going for the attempt they'll likely let shit lifts pass (mike miller's squats, mendy's benches). in the IPF they judge retardedly strict on record attempts. siders has gotten redlighted for lifts that were smokeshows.
huge respect to the dude for getting under 1102 pounds, but that squat was extremely high.
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ricosauve
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« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2007, 09:33:46 AM » |
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hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
squad father=the biggest looser, you are pathetic, look at you , fat piece of shit , ha ha ha |
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dan18
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« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2007, 09:38:44 AM » |
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squad father=the biggest looser, you are pathetic, look at you , fat piece of shit , ha ha ha
loser spell check to youre right  |
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troponin
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« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2007, 09:43:10 AM » |
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I think there are a lot of complaints about that squat right now.
I don't think it was a national meet, and I'm sure the judges were good friends of him, and really wanted him to set a record. I'm sure it is hard to not get caught up in the moment with something like that.
I think he even said he felt it was high, not his fault it was passed.
Just as many powerlifters are complaining about that squat as non powerlifters....
Also, to clarify, I'm not proclaiming myself a powerlifting expert.
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« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2007, 09:53:08 AM » |
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hahahahahahaha, that passed?
Go back to your closet eat your candies... |
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gordiano
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« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2007, 09:56:24 AM » |
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Another clown, Justin Graal, in yet another clown federation, APF, setting a world record in... I dunno, I suppose it's supposed to be a squat? FFS, he's in a double or triple canvas suit, with power briefs, extra long wraps, and what not. But yet cannot even get even close to something that resembles a squat. http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/4636-Hedge Holy shit. That's supposed to be a Squat, AT A MEET?  Fuck, at the gym, that would be a half assed effort, but at a meet? |
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Hedgehog
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« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2007, 10:27:56 AM » |
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I think there are a lot of complaints about that squat right now.
I don't think it was a national meet, and I'm sure the judges were good friends of him, and really wanted him to set a record. I'm sure it is hard to not get caught up in the moment with something like that.
I think he even said he felt it was high, not his fault it was passed.
Just as many powerlifters are complaining about that squat as non powerlifters....
Also, to clarify, I'm not proclaiming myself a powerlifting expert.
Graals could have avoided the controversy. By simply going below parallell. In other words: Doing a real squat. -Hedge |
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troponin
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« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2007, 10:48:39 AM » |
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Graals could have avoided the controversy.
By simply going below parallell.
In other words: Doing a real squat.
-Hedge
His other squats were of good depth. Have you had 1100lbs on your back? I'm guessing it is tough to pay close attention to if he was parallel. I'm assuming he went downt, tried to find the perfect blend of hitting parallel and stopping at the exact point where he would get the most power out of the hole, and ended up a bit high.....which he supposedly told friends after the fact. You're into grip training...right? Imagine you're at a grip comp, and you attempt to close the COC #3, you've already closed a #2, and something like a #2.5....it's your third attempt. You go for the #3, and don't touch....but the judges pass the closure. You tell people "I'm pretty sure I didn't touch." Someone videos it, puts it on the net under the title "epic tool using the COC $3" and you have pages of people on the internet bashing you for "calling that a closure." |
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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2007, 11:01:27 AM » |
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Go back to your closet eat your candies...
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Hedgehog
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« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2007, 11:03:38 AM » |
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His other squats were of good depth.
Have you had 1100lbs on your back? I'm guessing it is tough to pay close attention to if he was parallel.
I'm assuming he went downt, tried to find the perfect blend of hitting parallel and stopping at the exact point where he would get the most power out of the hole, and ended up a bit high.....which he supposedly told friends after the fact.
You're into grip training...right?
Imagine you're at a grip comp, and you attempt to close the COC #3, you've already closed a #2, and something like a #2.5....it's your third attempt. You go for the #3, and don't touch....but the judges pass the closure.
You tell people "I'm pretty sure I didn't touch."
Someone videos it, puts it on the net under the title "epic tool using the COC $3" and you have pages of people on the internet bashing you for "calling that a closure."
Have you watched the video? You claiming he is "a bit high"... Mate, I don't know what to tell you to be honest. It doesn't even resemble a squat in my opinion. Graals lift in a very liberal fed to start with, the APF. They got the "parallell" criteria, instead of the tougher "below parallell" that USPF and USAPL uses. Your comparison to a CoC#3 closing doesn't hold. If I would've been allowed use both hands, and pushed the CoC# into my leg or something to force it together, but still didn't close it, and got it counted as a one-hand closing, that would be a fair comparison. TBH, I don't see why anyone with some kind of dignity would compete in these feds, when USPF (non-tested) and USAPL (drug-tested) are available. There are no excuses. Captain Kirk, Ed Coan, Wade Hooper and other big lifters all lift in serious feds. Ed Coan did some WPO contest, with a monolift. He still walked the weight out, and did a below parallell lift, in a single-ply suit and 2 meter long wraps. -Hedge |
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troponin
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« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2007, 11:09:03 AM » |
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Have you watched the video?
You claiming he is "a bit high"... Mate, I don't know what to tell you to be honest.
It doesn't even resemble a squat in my opinion.
Graals lift in a very liberal fed to start with, the APF. They got the "parallell" criteria, instead of the tougher "below parallell" that USPF and USAPL uses.
Your comparison to a CoC#3 closing doesn't hold.
If I would've been allowed use both hands, and pushed the CoC# into my leg or something to force it together, but still didn't close it, and got it counted as a one-hand closing, that would be a fair comparison.
TBH, I don't see why anyone with some kind of dignity would compete in these feds, when USPF (non-tested) and USAPL (drug-tested) are available. There are no excuses.
Captain Kirk, Ed Coan, Wade Hooper and other big lifters all lift in serious feds.
Ed Coan did some WPO contest, with a monolift. He still walked the weight out, and did a below parallell lift, in a single-ply suit and 2 meter long wraps.
-Hedge
I don't think you get what I'm saying at all. I haven't even watched the video. Call the squat shit, high, poor judging, whatever. That's fine. You're calling the lifter a tool for missing a squat. It's not his fault they passed it. I believe Mike Miller asked for his WR squat to be taken off the books....but he still get shit for it. Have Coan, Kirk, Hooper ever missed a lift? I don't think they've all gone 9 for 9 in every meet they've ever done.... If Coan missed a lift, and for some unknown reason, it got passed (mistake, poor judging, whatever), would you bash Coan? I don't care if you think the squat is super high. But, from what I've heard, the lifter said he thought it was high, and he didn't post the video bragging about the lift. Why bash him? |
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Hedgehog
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« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2007, 11:16:59 AM » |
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I don't think you get what I'm saying at all.
I haven't even watched the video.
Call the squat shit, high, poor judging, whatever. That's fine.
You're calling the lifter a tool for missing a squat. It's not his fault they passed it.
I believe Mike Miller asked for his WR squat to be taken off the books....but he still get shit for it.
Have Coan, Kirk, Hooper ever missed a lift? I don't think they've all gone 9 for 9 in every meet they've ever done....
If Coan missed a lift, and for some unknown reason, it got passed (mistake, poor judging, whatever), would you bash Coan?
I don't care if you think the squat is super high. But, from what I've heard, the lifter said he thought it was high, and he didn't post the video bragging about the lift.
Why bash him?
Why bash him? Watch the video clip, then you'll understand, I think. You claim the other squats were of good depth. Here is another squat of Graalfs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMTYVvS3EKsAnd here is the 3 inch "squat": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUrhOWcby3U-Hedge |
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troponin
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« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2007, 11:21:09 AM » |
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I guess I don't get it then... Me.....I would have a beef with the judges passing the lifts. I just can't see getting pissed at the lifter doing the lift.....he's not judging. He lifts in the that fed, under their rules, and his lifts get passed. Why would you bash him for that? Do you bash any homerun hitter who plays in a home run friendly park? But, feel free to bash him then.... |
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Hedgehog
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« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2007, 11:27:17 AM » |
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I guess I don't get it then...
Me.....I would have a beef with the judges passing the lifts. I just can't see getting pissed at the lifter doing the lift.....he's not judging. He lifts in the that fed, under their rules, and his lifts get passed. Why would you bash him for that? Do you bash any homerun hitter who plays in a home run friendly park?
But, feel free to bash him then....
There are federations and lifters that doesn't make a joke out of powerlifting: Wade Hooper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4sDSXNv2H4-Hedge |
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« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2007, 11:56:02 AM » |
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Now what was that? A belt and knee wraps are all that should be allowed for a proper squat, my point proved by me, i squat 480 for a single with belt and wraps but 625 with a suit and briefs!! thats not my real strength!
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« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2007, 11:58:17 AM » |
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don't take one bad call out on the entire federation. there are a lot of incredible WPO lifters out there. travis mash, bolton, among others. |
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The Squadfather
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« Reply #48 on: March 28, 2007, 12:57:51 PM » |
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Now what was that? A belt and knee wraps are all that should be allowed for a proper squat, my point proved by me, i squat 480 for a single with belt and wraps but 625 with a suit and briefs!! thats not my real strength!
bullshit on the 625. |
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Hedgehog
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« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2007, 01:33:39 PM » |
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bullshit on the 625.
TBH, it sounds about right, if it's in one of the "parallell" feds. That's what's so fcuked up. When a lifter gets close to 200 lbs or more out of the lifting gear, it starts to become a joke. My guess is that a guy like Graalfs could squat MAYBE 600 lbs below parallell raw. I wouldn't bet any money on it though. It would mean lifting gear and his lifting "technique" added 500+ lbs. -Hedge |
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