Milos Sarcev's Seminar: May 19 2007: 11am sharp

[Shawn Ray]

Milos everyone knows the answer for you on everything is INSULIN!

Correct me if I'm wrong, the guys who you work with ALL say the same thing right, no need to name names because we both know you almost kill them with your Advises'

[alexxx]

No one on juice is having a problem building muscle.   If he were training natural guys and they were getting bigger than other naturals then he'd be a guru.  But he's not.

If his pro clients were bigger and leaner than other pros then he would be a guru.  But they're not.

How big are your calves?

[tu_holmes]

Milos everyone knows the answer for you on everything is INSULIN!

Correct me if I'm wrong, the guys who you work with ALL say the same thing right, no need to name names because we both know you almost kill them with your Advises'

Hey Shawn, Obsess much?

[CT_Muscle]

Milos I can't attend the seminar is there anyone you can make a video to view online, sorry if this question has been asked already. Thanks! See you at NY Pro I will introduce myself.

[Shawn Ray]

Obsess or Absess such as what Milos has become

[mame09]

why would shawn rat on milos. its not like the DEA had anything on shawn or did they?

[Bast000]

Obsess or Absess such as what Milos has become

haha are you saying Milos almost died from injecting synthol in his arms, Shawn?

[mwbbuilder]

This is so dumb.

Milos created a reputation helping other primarily with their drug use. He produced the "most improved BBs". There's nothing new or special about his training and nutrtion philosophies.

Now, he's going to be selling all of the youngsters his supplements. ..as if the supplemnets made the BBs he worked with improve so much.

Point blank question: Did you ever sell steroids?

The question isn't "Did you ever get caught selling steroids?"

Milos...you are cool in my book. But don't come on here and act as if you are a saint or something.

[pumpster]

Here we go again Shawn...
Your knowledge of nutrition and supplementation is without a doubt BELOW any acceptable standard...
Without any sarcasm - I would bet  that my 9 year old daughter knows more about nutrition and supplementation that Sir Sugar Shawn...

bwahahaahahha but what about his double chins don't those count?

[migizi]

so is this seminar going to be a fitshow episode?

[Milos_Sarcev]

Milos everyone knows the answer for you on everything is INSULIN!

Correct me if I'm wrong, the guys who you work with ALL say the same thing right, no need to name names because we both know you almost kill them with your Advises'

Shawn, Shawn, Shawn...my answer to question of most anabolic hormone is: INSULIN...as that's the simple fact...

Now, if you would only know the ways to USE your own endogenous INSULIN to your advantage...you could have actually won few shows...(and also got the courage to come to Europe and compete with us - with "independent" judging panel...)

Now, as you said "correct me if I am wrong" - I must: I almost made few potential Mr. Olympia winner's...rather than killing someone...
If you are going to mention Mustafa - I would at least hope you would tell the truth...You tried to kill him giving him GATORADE which was as good as bullet to the head - considering that he was already in HYPERKALEMIC state...

Off course - if you would have kindergarten level of Nutritional knowledge...you could have catch that...

[Milos_Sarcev]

Obsess or Absess such as what Milos has become

Obesity is serious thing Shawn...you should ease up now when you are so "Fit over 40"...

Yes, I do remember you telling me you always liked my abs...
Who can blame you for that?

This is what you meant?

[Milos_Sarcev]

This is so dumb.

Milos created a reputation helping other primarily with their drug use. He produced the "most improved BBs". There's nothing new or special about his training and nutrtion philosophies.

Now, he's going to be selling all of the youngsters his supplements. ..as if the supplemnets made the BBs he worked with improve so much.

Point blank question: Did you ever sell steroids?

The question isn't "Did you ever get caught selling steroids?"

Milos...you are cool in my book. But don't come on here and act as if you are a saint or something.

To answer your question:

NO, I NEVER DID...Single "unit" of anything...and you, my friend, have my permission to post here a single case...Single person, sale, product, name...anything...

This is what I mentioned hundreds of times and I can keep repeating until I turn green - but "know-it-alls" like you will simply assume something and than leave it at that...
I am giving you (like I did to Shawn and others) opportunity to present me as the dealer that I am ...and reveal my "guilt"...

[knny187]

Shawn, Shawn, Shawn...my answer to question of most anabolic hormone is: INSULIN...as that's the simple fact...

Now, if you would only know the ways to USE your own endogenous INSULIN to your advantage...you could have actually won few shows...(and also got the courage to come to Europe and compete with us - with "independent" judging panel...)

 

Correct me if I'm wrong Mishko....

But Shawn Ray never competed in as many shows as you....but he won a hell of a lot more shows than you & also placed at the Olympia (consistently) higher than most everyone that has never won but maybe Kevin or Flex. 

Not sure if you should be the first person giving advices since your competitive track record (for a Pro) is not the best or the best percentage.  It's probably (statistically) the worst for a Pro that ever competed in a Professional Contest.

[Shawn Ray]

Milos, plain and simple: You're a CLOWN

[chaos]

shut up asshole
isn't it the time to cheat on your wife now ? 

AAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAA!!!! good one Stavi

[pumpster]

Correct me if I'm wrong Mishko....

But Shawn Ray never competed in as many shows as you....but he won a hell of a lot more shows than you & also placed at the Olympia (consistently) higher than most everyone that has never won but maybe Kevin or Flex. 

Not sure if you should be the first person giving advices since your competitive track record (for a Pro) is not the best or the best percentage.  It's probably (statistically) the worst for a Pro that ever competed in a Professional Contest.

Consider the source.

[Milos_Sarcev]

Correct me if I'm wrong Mishko....

But Shawn Ray never competed in as many shows as you....but he won a hell of a lot more shows than you & also placed at the Olympia (consistently) higher than most everyone that has never won but maybe Kevin or Flex. 

Not sure if you should be the first person giving advices since your competitive track record (for a Pro) is not the best or the best percentage.  It's probably (statistically) the worst for a Pro that ever competed in a Professional Contest.

I will correct you when you are wrong...or better yet ask you: how many shows have Shawn won?

Next, his better placing in Olympia is exactly what I have questioned.
There - he was always protected by his judges.

Any idea why he NEVER got the guts to put his chances on line in any European Grand Prix shows?

He complained about "rotation of the judges at the Olympia" and in exact situation when judges were COMPLETELY rotated EVERY show - in Europe (where we had completely different set of judges in each and every country) - SOMETHING he was so anxiously waiting for...HE WAS NO SHOW?

You want to explain to me why someone who is in contest shape (at the Olympia) - would not take a chance and a challenge to go to Europe and possibly make 100 K in matter of week(s)?
Kevin Levrone, Vince Taylor, Nasser, Dorian, Ronnie, Chris, Flex...they all did...but Shawn would simply NOT TAKE A CHANCE.

I even remember Kerry Keyes and Dorian (promoters of the British Grand Prix) laughing and stating: "can you believe that Shawn asked us to guest pose at our show for $1000.00 instead of competing - just one week after he competed with the same guys at the Olympia"

He would rather take $1000.00 for sure than take a chance and NOT MAKE A TOP FIVE - in which situation he would NOT GET PAID AT ALL...

As Shawn loves to say: things that makes you go Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Pathetic - if you ask me...but - let's focus on your question: how many shows have Shawn won?

[Milos_Sarcev]

Milos, plain and simple: You're a CLOWN

That's your comeback?

Best that you can do?

What happened with answering to all of my questions the way I always answer yours?

[mikediesel]

Mr Sarcev could you answer the following questions please:

Will Milos
1.Get suspended from the IFBB?
2.If suspended can he still train competitors for the IFBB, and will they get screwed because of working with Milos?
3.Would he consider PDI if he is suspended?
4.What's up with the IRS and Milos? I ask cause Shawn Ray keeps bringing it up
5.Will Shawn Ray show up at Milos gym for the free seminar? Will he bring his DEA buddies?
 

[Milos_Sarcev]

Mr Sarcev could you answer the following questions please:

Will Milos
1.Get suspended from the IFBB?
2.If suspended can he still train competitors for the IFBB, and will they get screwed because of working with Milos?
3.Would he consider PDI if he is suspended?
4.What's up with the IRS and Milos? I ask cause Shawn Ray keeps bringing it up
5.Will Shawn Ray show up at Milos gym for the free seminar? Will he bring his DEA buddies?
 

1. Possibly
2. What do you think? ...Answer - off course
3. No...as I will find the way to get "unsuspended"
4. Same as Shawn was bringing up DEA and jail time = his wishful thinking
5. Is only one way to find out...isn't it? BDW - he is kicked out and therefore not allowed in the gym...thus - I would personally escort him if he comes

[Max_Rep]

Milos, plain and simple: You're a CLOWN

Wow… now I’ve heard it all. Are there any mirrors in your World?

5. Is only one way to find out...isn't it? BDW - he is kicked out and therefore not allowed in the gym...thus - I would personally escort him if he comes

Now THAT is something you could sell tickets for! 

[knny187]

I will correct you when you are wrong...or better yet ask you: how many shows have Shawn won?

Well, you one 1 pro show out of what....72 shows?

Shawn won 3 shows out of 18...although 1 was DQ'd which was bullshit.  Seems like BBr's since Shawn's DQ are not getting DQ'd eventhough they fail testing.  Let's not mention Synthol...which is a banned substance in the IFBB but it's obvious that the contestants do not get DQ'd for using.  Let's not forget two of those shows were Arnold Classic's & Shawn also has 2 second place finishes at the Olympia & 3 third places.

Next, his better placing in Olympia is exactly what I have questioned.
There - he was always protected by his judges.

Protected?  Are you delusional?  I think the synthol has gotten lodged in your brain....or Insulin may have side effects like loss of brain cells.

Shawn, if anything, was shafted on his Olympia placings.  He should have won (1) Olympia if not (2).

Any idea why he NEVER got the guts to put his chances on line in any European Grand Prix shows?

Not going to defend Shawn on this...I have no idea...but looking at his competitve career...Shawn was one it seems to take breaks bewteen shows.  It's probably why he placed so well in contests he entered.

He complained about "rotation of the judges at the Olympia" and in exact situation when judges were COMPLETELY rotated EVERY show - in Europe (where we had completely different set of judges in each and every country) - SOMETHING he was so anxiously waiting for...HE WAS NO SHOW?

You want to explain to me why someone who is in contest shape (at the Olympia) - would not take a chance and a challenge to go to Europe and possibly make 100 K in matter of week(s)?
Kevin Levrone, Vince Taylor, Nasser, Dorian, Ronnie, Chris, Flex...they all did...but Shawn would simply NOT TAKE A CHANCE.

Like I said earlier....I have no idea why Shawn did what he did...but maybe he wanted to take breaks between his shows.  Hell, lets look at Coleman....he used to do all the GP's up until he won the O...then he backed off with one or two of them until 2003.  Then he had 3 back to back Olympia titles with no shows in between.  In 2006 he lost the Olympia title & went ahead with the GP's & lost everyone.  Do you that was a smart competitve career move?

I guess what I'm saying...I believe Shawn was probably taking a break between contest & working on other business opportunities.

I even remember Kerry Keyes and Dorian (promoters of the British Grand Prix) laughing and stating: "can you believe that Shawn asked us to guest pose at our show for $1000.00 instead of competing - just one week after he competed with the same guys at the Olympia"

He would rather take $1000.00 for sure than take a chance and NOT MAKE A TOP FIVE - in which situation he would NOT GET PAID AT ALL...

As Shawn loves to say: things that makes you go Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Pathetic - if you ask me...but - let's focus on your question: how many shows have Shawn won?

Again....comparing you to Shawn...you're second rate & second class when it comes to bodybuilding.

I believe in 20 years...people will be still talking about how great Shawn Ray was & most people will say....

Milos "Who?" Sarcev

[MR.BIG]

knny187

You looked like clever boy, but ........... 

[Milos_Sarcev]

Well, you one 1 pro show out of what....72 shows?

Shawn won 3 shows out of 18...although 1 was DQ'd which was bullshit.  Seems like BBr's since Shawn's DQ are not getting DQ'd eventhough they fail testing.  Let's not mention Synthol...which is a banned substance in the IFBB but it's obvious that the contestants do not get DQ'd for using.  Let's not forget two of those shows were Arnold Classic's & Shawn also has 2 second place finishes at the Olympia & 3 third places.

Protected?  Are you delusional?  I think the synthol has gotten lodged in your brain....or Insulin may have side effects like loss of brain cells.

Shawn, if anything, was shafted on his Olympia placings.  He should have won (1) Olympia if not (2).


Not going to defend Shawn on this...I have no idea...but looking at his competitve career...Shawn was one it seems to take breaks bewteen shows.  It's probably why he placed so well in contests he entered.

Like I said earlier....I have no idea why Shawn did what he did...but maybe he wanted to take breaks between his shows.  Hell, lets look at Coleman....he used to do all the GP's up until he won the O...then he backed off with one or two of them until 2003.  Then he had 3 back to back Olympia titles with no shows in between.  In 2006 he lost the Olympia title & went ahead with the GP's & lost everyone.  Do you that was a smart competitve career move?

I guess what I'm saying...I believe Shawn was probably taking a break between contest & working on other business opportunities.

Again....comparing you to Shawn...you're second rate & second class when it comes to bodybuilding.

I believe in 20 years...people will be still talking about how great Shawn Ray was & most people will say....

Milos "Who?" Sarcev

So Shawn won 2 shows and I won one...He got me . Should I also mentioned that he turned pro 4 years before me?

Olympia placing is already discussed...you (and more notably Shawn) never seem to respond to my question why didn't he EVER get the courage to compete in Europe (somewhat my home turf).
Plus - would you want to predict what would have happened if I competed with Shawn in Yugoslavia...with Yugoslavian judges (or now in Serbia with Serbian judges?)...

As far as lack of brain cells - I am all up for yet another challenge - from you (or Shawn ) - intellectually...(as this time physical challenge wouldn't prove a thing...)
Up for it?

Come to my seminar - and we can do that right before or after...


As far as Shawn NOT doing the shows...taking a breaks...etc - tells you how "professional" he truly is...
As I mentioned - EVERY year after the Olympia it was European Grand Prix tour where top guy could possibly make 100K in prize money...

Shawn NEVER took the chance...
Do you wander why?

Even great Lee Haney did European show POST Olympia...and Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates also wasn't afraid to enter numerous times - and put his title on line...
Ronnie did God knows how many times...and they made great amount of prize money...just because they are CONFIDENT enough to accept the challenges...unlike our honorable and courageous Sugar Shawn...

And let's not even mention the true fans...
His European fans would certainly like to have the opportunity to see him compete...but AMEN...balls don't grow on the tree...(last time I checked)...

And as you believe that in 20 years people are going to talk about how great Shawn was...I highly doubt that...Few people talk about it even now...
But - in my case they will not need to talk in "past tense"...as I will still be just as good as I was...or am - every day of my life...

I am a bodybuilder by choice...and that is the biggest difference...between me and Shawn.