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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2007, 12:30:33 PM »
You are an athlete ....and you know it better that anyone.
The pros are just the ones who have chosen to take it to another level and are judged freakier than the guy standing next to him.  If you want to call yourself an athlete (Garreath), have at it. I'm sure you're just a basic local meathead who's the biggest guy in his gym............whatever.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2007, 12:30:54 PM »
You are an athlete ....and you know it better that anyone.

LOL, yeah.. keep telling yourself that. bb'ing is not an athletic activity, at least not in the traditional sense.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2007, 12:42:32 PM »
Here's a question:

Most athletes are tagged with skill and conditioning.

Athletic conditioning is defined as being in condition to perform their sport for a full season, be it basketball, football, track etc.

Can we truly say that bbers are athletically conditioned? Maybe for a day?

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2007, 12:52:26 PM »
Good topic. 
I don't think this one has been covered yet.

There are no bb shows to talk about at the moment. Everything we talk about is in the past. By your logic we should not make threads about the Olympia since it has been debated to death and was held last year.

We should not start threads on anything that has been talked about before. Since this is a bb board don't know how that wouldwork.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2007, 01:08:43 PM »
There are no bb shows to talk about at the moment. Everything we talk about is in the past. By your logic we should not make threads about the Olympia since it has been debated to death and was held last year.

We should not start threads on anything that has been talked about before. Since this is a bb board don't know how that wouldwork.

Good point  ;)

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2007, 01:13:34 PM »
A bodybuilder is considered an athlete because of the physical envolvment with it all. You can't be a BODYbuilder, withouth involving the BODY.
Sports require Skill, such as throwing, catching, handling a hockey stick, kicking...you name it.
But bodybuilders have to master a few skills themselves.
Posing is a skill, hell some lifting techniques require skill as well, otherwise you get injured.(not to mention mental focus for dieting and contest prep)

It's no different from an olympic sport...example: bobsledding, they practice for months and months, only for a few seconds on the track. (and even there they dont do anythign really "athletic" they sit in a freakin sled and lean from one side to another)...Bodybuilders do the same, they train and prepare for only a short time of competition...we could go on and on, but if Bobsledding could be considered a sport...along with Race Car Driving, Ping Pong, hell even poker and curling and darts....then bodybuilding is a definite shoe-in.

You might look at it as a hobby too, many people lift as a pastime activity, but given the fact that the total body is used and worked and strained constantly, you can't ignore that kind of physical involvement.

If bodybuilding (which comes from hours in the gym) is not considrered a sport...
how can boxing, football, powerlifting, etc. be considered sports? when they all require thier athletes to train in gyms just as much? the only difference is, outside the gym the other guys appy their bodies to a skill, such as throwing, running, etc. Bodybuilders use it towards posing etc. one way or another you're benefiting from the gains/results attained in the gym.
So what is so different?

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2007, 01:14:57 PM »
I'd love to see Lee Priest or Jay Cutler try to compete in the old Superstar competitions.  How comical would that be seeing them waddle around the obstacle course.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2007, 01:15:16 PM »
Ya, ok,  thats why 99.9 % of bodybuilders can't reach anywhere close to a pro level.

What does that have to do with being an athlete? 99.9 percent of amateur racecar drivers cannot make it to the pro level either.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2007, 01:19:17 PM »
Bodybuilders blow their bodies up with drugs to extreme levels to get on stage and try to be freakier than the next guy.  Please! Stop with the posing being athletic. It's a show boys.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2007, 01:20:28 PM »
First off, I am not out to offend anyone with this post. I want to have a legit conversation about this.

The fact is bb takes hard work, dedication, genetics and drugs. There is no athleticism involved imo. You eat, sleep, tan, lift and shit. You then step on stage and flex. What a bb does is no different then a women who is training for, and competing in beauty pageants. Obviously bb has become a freak show so the beauty part does not apply, but the main idea is the same. Yes, a lot of bb's are former athletes. But most where not good enough to make it into a pro leauge of some type, or stopped playing sports due to injury. You could be the most god awful athlete in the world, but if you have the right genetics, and response to drugs, you could be a world champion bb.

Let me see a single bb do something like in the link I posted below. While bodybuilder's are very dedicated they are not athletes imo. No more then a chick who diets, trains , tans and stands on stage competing in a pageant. No disrespect meant by this post. Chick would lead you to believe bb's are among the worlds top athletes ::) You have to admire the dedication pro bb's show, just cannot see how they would be classified along side pro athletes.



Let's see one normal athlete do this

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2007, 01:25:52 PM »
Because it takes a superior level of athletic ability to play the game at the highest level. A pro bb works out, takes drugs, and sleeps. Then he gets on stage and squeezes his muscles. A guy like dave Henrey is considered a top "athlete" in his sport. The guy is like 5'2.

ehhh.... so what you are saying is that small people can't be athletes either ???

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2007, 01:30:16 PM »
mugsey booges (sp?) was a top basketball player and was only like 5'5

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2007, 01:35:08 PM »
Bodybuilders blow their bodies up with drugs to extreme levels to get on stage and try to be freakier than the next guy.  Please! Stop with the posing being athletic. It's a show boys.

drugs don't do the work for you...watch Branch Warren's DVD or Ronnie coleman and see how they bust thier ass in the gym...i hate how people say "all steroids" or "drugs are cheating" lol ....you have to work 2wice as hard still!  shitheads!

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2007, 01:37:33 PM »
mugsey booges (sp?) was a top basketball player and was only like 5'5


He was an athlete. Henrey stands there and flex's.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2007, 01:51:49 PM »
What physical skills do pro bbers have that you and I don't?? Why are they pros and not me?? They look better according to judges. Looking the part is not a physical skill. If bodybuilding comps were anything remotely close to a physical contest, this thread wouldn't even come up.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2007, 01:54:52 PM »
ath·lete(thlt)
n.
A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts.

I googled "definition athlete" and got the above definition...so going by this, it would be logical enough to say that a bodybuilder IS an athlete...they obviously need extreme strength, agility,and endurance to train to that extent, and obviously they perform in competitive contexts...

The difference between bodybuilding and baseball, is that with bodybuilding, when you go to an event you are witnessing the end product of all that hard work...with baseball you're watching it happen.   Also, you can be a professional baseball player and be 20lbs overweight...you can't be a competitive bodybuilder and be 20lbs overweight.  You can have obese professional football players, but not obese competitive bodybuilders. 

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2007, 02:00:36 PM »
You can have obese professional football players, but not obese competitive bodybuilders. 

it's ironic tho that on a bodybuilder's day of competition, he is pretty much at his weakest haha.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2007, 02:07:18 PM »
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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2007, 02:16:57 PM »
ath·lete(thlt)
n.
A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts.

I googled "definition athlete" and got the above definition...so going by this, it would be logical enough to say that a bodybuilder IS an athlete...they obviously need extreme strength, agility,and endurance to train to that extent, and obviously they perform in competitive contexts...

The difference between bodybuilding and baseball, is that with bodybuilding, when you go to an event you are witnessing the end product of all that hard work...with baseball you're watching it happen.   Also, you can be a professional baseball player and be 20lbs overweight...you can't be a competitive bodybuilder and be 20lbs overweight.  You can have obese professional football players, but not obese competitive bodybuilders. 


With that logic you could compare proffesional curlers with nfl players. BB's are not athletes. Do you think beauty pageant contestants are athletes? To me comparing Cutler to a guy like Ladanian Tomlinson is laughable and silly.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2007, 03:29:42 PM »
according to the dictionary bodybuilding is a sport

it matches the definition of "sport"

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2007, 03:50:01 PM »
How is a baseball player an athlete?  while in the field he stands there not moving 99% of the time, some of them smoke, most of them drink, the majority of them take drugs as in mr. soon to be home run king.
the NFL?  all human growth hormone takers, mutants of science.

sorry, your bubble has busted.

In all my years on here, this has to be the most ignorant post I have ever read reguarding this subject!!

Baseball of all the sports, takes the most amount of skill and to say they don't move 99% of the time just shows how ignorant you really are. I think it was Ted Williams that said "Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports". When the ball is pitched, it takes the batter about less than a half of a second to react and a little longer for an infielder to react to hit ball. So Rooster, step back an think before you post..........you seem to have a hard time with that!

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2007, 04:02:58 PM »
How is a baseball player an athlete?  while in the field he stands there not moving 99% of the time, some of them smoke, most of them drink, the majority of them take drugs as in mr. soon to be home run king.
the NFL?  all human growth hormone takers, mutants of science.

sorry, your bubble has busted.

LMAO

have you ever tried to hit a 70 MPH baseball comming at you with a bat, let alone a 90-100MPH fastball.  Its borderline impossible for 99% of the population. 

and wtf does drugs do to help a baseball players hand eye coordination?  sure it can make him swing the bat faster, and hit the ball harder, but he still has to make contact.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2007, 04:13:39 PM »
In all my years on here, this has to be the most ignorant post I have ever read reguarding this subject!!

Baseball of all the sports, takes the most amount of skill and to say they don't move 99% of the time just shows how ignorant you really are. I think it was Ted Williams that said "Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports". When the ball is pitched, it takes the batter about less than a half of a second to react and a little longer for an infielder to react to hit ball. So Rooster, step back an think before you post..........you seem to have a hard time with that!

You seem to have love and respect for baseball and I very much respect that. Do not disrespect Bodybuilding because others have the same love you have for baseball and respect to Bodybuilding. Anyone that known bodybuiding know that incredible amount of determination, hardwork, persistancy it takes.

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2007, 04:16:07 PM »
 Also, you can be a professional baseball player and be 20lbs overweight...you can't be a competitive bodybuilder and be 20lbs overweight.  You can have obese professional football players, but not obese competitive bodybuilders. 

But the baseball player who is 20lbs overweight can usually run around the diamond after hitting the 95mph fastball and not passout, and if football players are deemed obese during the physical, they don't play...........period!

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Re: How is a bb considered an athlete
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2007, 04:23:14 PM »
But the baseball player who is 20lbs overweight can usually run around the diamond after hitting the 95mph fastball and not passout, and if football players are deemed obese during the physical, they don't play...........period!

...and I doubt a lineman in the NFL could run the 220....or a pro tennis player could swim the 4X4 relay....or a Olympic boxer could deadlift 500 lbs.....

Different sports require different skills...