Problems with the Milos Workout

[Milos_Sarcev]

As i stated, I was at this fat condition once with 87kg. And now 97kg with this fat condition.
Every month you will see drastical difference and i will be in contest condition with 83kg(Of course without drinking water too).
My weight was 75kg in this 1995pic.

Also telling you, why dont you say same thing to Mr.Priest who have never be beaten by you?He is pretty fat in off-season, But,under his fat, there are plenty of mass than you.

I told you, i am preparing for contest again.Or you didnt read my post before?
MY BEST CONDITION IN 2 MONTH WILL BEAT YOUR OLD NATURAL BODY OR NOT.
That is the deal isnt that?
Are you escaping?

OK Mamba, enough is enough...
It is one thing trying to communicate and another - allowing yourself to talk too much trash on continuous bases.

Face it - you are BELOW AVERAGE trainee...and you are FAT AS A PIG...Embarrassingly out of shape.
Yes, you've been in shape once 12 years ago and you live in your past - but nevertheless talk so big - like you have accomplished something special.

So much so - that you believe you are much better than me (as a natural...for example).
Wake up and smell the coffee...and take extra cup with your ACE stack to treat your obesity...as at this point - it might save your life.

And as far as Lee - yes he beat me many times before - just like I managed to beat him several times as well...but why would you even mention him? Again - to compare yourself to other professional?

I have one word for you: LIPOSUCTION...actually two: add NOW...or (5 more): FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...(OK - few more): BEFORE IS TOO LATE

[kyomu]

OK Mamba, enough is enough...
It is one thing trying to communicate and another - allowing yourself to talk too much trash on continuous bases.

Face it - you are BELOW AVERAGE trainee...and you are FAT AS A PIG...Embarrassingly out of shape.
Yes, you've been in shape once 12 years ago and you live in your past - but nevertheless talk so big - like you have accomplished something special.

So much so - that you believe you are much better than me (as a natural...for example).
Wake up and smell the coffee...and take extra cup with your ACE stack to treat your obesity...as at this point - it might save your life.

And as far as Lee - yes he beat me many times before - just like I managed to beat him several times as well...but why would you even mention him? Again - to compare yourself to other professional?

I have one word for you: LIPOSUCTION...actually two: add NOW...or (5 more): FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...(OK - few more): BEFORE IS TOO LATE

OK.
Anyway,you are bypassing the deal. You are simply afraid the challenge.
I am not saying like i accomplished something.
YOU ARE THE GUY WHO START TO BASH ME.
Thats why i explain to you who i am.
I was trying to be nice to you as you told me.

But,now i know clearly, YOU LOVE WAR.
Anyway, i will post again 2 month later(OK,1 month and already i am not fat and i will have decent shape though...) with good condition(I will never bypass or escape like you).And i dont try to say anything to you.As you wish, i will leave you alone.

You have never seen me before(OK you even didnt see my pic before) and you started to bash me.
Now almost sorry for you.

Good luck at your business.

[Milos_Sarcev]

OK.
Anyway,you are bypassing the deal. You are simply afraid the challenge.
I am not saying like i accomplished something.
YOU ARE THE GUY WHO START TO BASH ME.
Thats why i explain to you who i am.
I was trying to be nice to you as you told me.

But,now i know clearly, YOU LOVE WAR.
Anyway, i will post again 2 month later(OK,1 month and already i am not fat and i will have decent shape though...) with good condition(I will never bypass or escape like you).And i dont try to say anything to you.As you wish, i will leave you alone.

You have never seen me before(OK you even didnt see my pic before) and you started to bash me.
Now almost sorry for you.

Good luck at your business.

What challenge?
Like chicken can challenge a butcher?

You really can FLY...Now I understand...

[kyomu]

What challenge?
Like chicken can challenge a butcher?

You really can FLY...Now I understand...

Dont worry. Its not a first time I shed my fat.
Anyway,why dont you post your pic when you were NATURAL??
Then I will shut up for sure.

[kyomu]

Remember I offered 10000$ to you in the challenge for drug test also..

[Milos_Sarcev]

Remember I offered 10000$ to you in the challenge for drug test also..

This is news to me...
What was your offer?

[kyomu]

Well Read again busy boy.




First of all,I am not in the Gym all day like you. I own a japanese sweets production company for japanese restaurant here.More than BBing,I practice chi-kung more also.
And i have not lived for bbing only like you. I did several business like vending japanese animation,videos and organizing event(Of course many people came,much much more than your seminar.7000 people in 3 days.). And now I have been in food industry for 5 years. Razing my company was a battle for me, i was sleeping only 4 hours every day....

I have several pics after the competition also as i did guest posing in several disco.I will try to find them out..

As for challenge,i am not talking about 1995 version.
I AM TALKING ABOUT NOW version.You also had better read well.

Because i am keeping on being natural,and i gained more than 10 kg of pure muscle.(Since you called its becon...)
I know how to scale muscle gain since i also competed some(OK of course much much less than you.I have competed 7 shows)
In this pic I was 75kg.In off season i was like 85kg.
Now I am 97kg almost same condition as  that 85kg. Thats why i know what will happen when i shed my fat off.
Also now i can train with much much heavier than before.(Of course, keep on training with very strict form)
When i am in shape,soon i will post 7 mandatorys.
Anyway, I will compete again in very near future. Its very good ocasion to challenge you.

Thats why I wanted to visit you before competing and learning some technic from you.
I can learn from Paco ,but why i cant learn from you also?

About natural. How about this.

If you accept my challenge and i win,i will visit you for sure and you do drug test to me using whoever you want.
If the result is positive,i will pay you that doping test cost plus 10000$.
If the result is negative,you will pay for that doping test cost plus paying my motel during staying there 2 weeks(Near your gym) plus train me free.
How is this??

[Milos_Sarcev]

Dont worry. Its not a first time I shed my fat.
Anyway,why dont you post your pic when you were NATURAL??
Then I will shut up for sure.

You think that provocative requests would change the way I respond here?
As I said before - I am not bothered with neither attacks or provocative questions, requests, challenges...

That's for insecure people who need to bark as they can't bite...
I chose my words...and I called you a chicken in comparison to me - who is a butcher in this instance...
Your chances are as good as tight up chicken next to pissed off butcher ready to strike...So - please...

What's next - you'll ask Angelina Jolie to post her photos to compare her with your first girlfriend...and your friends (her relatives) will be a judges?

[Milos_Sarcev]

I like guys like milos and bob chic who always say that steroids are only a minor part of the equation, but who are so scared to see how they would look like without it that they never went off since years...

What a joke...they don't even know how they would look like without it, cause they never tried to come off.

And they keep pretending they would look the same.... but how would they know, it's beyond em to do it naturally, cause they elevated their insecurity to the state of an art and are so used to bullshit the others that the now bullshit themselves.

As i said it, people on steroids lie to themselves, and as a consequence, spend their life lying to the others.

The best proof is most of the time they will deny being on steroids. Why? cause they can't even accept what they re doing, and that it's an obvious case of mental illness when psychological insecurity is pushing so far.

  Here is another KNOW IT ALL expert...

I have journals since 1987 - and I wrote every single thing I ever took (besides my diet, supplements and training....).
I was OFF more than ON since I start using steroids...

What some of you don't realize is: DIFFERENCE between USING and ABUSING.

Correct usage is something that could be even HEALTH beneficial...and I have a lot of proofs for that...
Abuse is another story...

So, for many of you simply stating that Bob, myself...and many other professionals USE steroids on occasion it's not enough - as you unequivocally know EXACTLY what we take...and regardless of what we say - you know better?

Please...

But, soon enough I will give some clear points about HRT and openly talk about AS - just so people can finally realize how much misinformation about AS circles around.

[Milos_Sarcev]

Well Read again busy boy.




First of all,I am not in the Gym all day like you. I own a japanese sweets production company for japanese restaurant here.More than BBing,I practice chi-kung more also.
And i have not lived for bbing only like you. I did several business like vending japanese animation,videos and organizing event(Of course many people came,much much more than your seminar.7000 people in 3 days.). And now I have been in food industry for 5 years. Razing my company was a battle for me, i was sleeping only 4 hours every day....

I have several pics after the competition also as i did guest posing in several disco.I will try to find them out..

As for challenge,i am not talking about 1995 version.
I AM TALKING ABOUT NOW version.You also had better read well.

Because i am keeping on being natural,and i gained more than 10 kg of pure muscle.(Since you called its becon...)
I know how to scale muscle gain since i also competed some(OK of course much much less than you.I have competed 7 shows)
In this pic I was 75kg.In off season i was like 85kg.
Now I am 97kg almost same condition as  that 85kg. Thats why i know what will happen when i shed my fat off.
Also now i can train with much much heavier than before.(Of course, keep on training with very strict form)
When i am in shape,soon i will post 7 mandatorys.
Anyway, I will compete again in very near future. Its very good ocasion to challenge you.

Thats why I wanted to visit you before competing and learning some technic from you.
I can learn from Paco ,but why i cant learn from you also?

About natural. How about this.

If you accept my challenge and i win,i will visit you for sure and you do drug test to me using whoever you want.
If the result is positive,i will pay you that doping test cost plus 10000$.
If the result is negative,you will pay for that doping test cost plus paying my motel during staying there 2 weeks(Near your gym) plus train me free.
How is this??

"If you accpet the challenge and I win?!"
Why don't you just say: if tied up chicken kills a butcher (with a biggest knife)...
If hells freezes over...etc...And for that - you can put cool Million as a bet...as you know it would never happen.

And I mentioned BACON as I was being nice...bacon has SOME MEAT...more appropriate was: LARD...

[Van_Bilderass]

But, soon enough I will give some clear points about HRT and openly talk about AS - just so people can finally realize how much misinformation about AS circles around.

All I want to know is if you are on HRT or if you clean out totally. If you are on HRT when "off", like I think you are, I wouldn't consider that as being clean.

[kyomu]

"If you accpet the challenge and I win?!"
Why don't you just say: if tied up chicken kills a butcher (with a biggest knife)...
If hells freezes over...etc...And for that - you can put cool Million as a bet...as you know it would never happen.

And I mentioned BACON as I was being nice...bacon has SOME MEAT...more appropriate was: LARD...

You didnt read well as ususal.
I said" For doping".
You said"This is new to me".
Bacon...OK.

I can turn myself into lean body in 2 months.

But how about you juice head, Can you live without steroid and clean your body in two month?
Before you worry about my health why dont you worry about your health of long year steroid usage?
Your teststeron level without juice will be miserable,sorry for you....

You can call me fat lard during only two months,but i call you juiced bber FOREVER.

If you dont want,WHY DONT YOU POST YOUR PIC WHEN YOU WERE NATURAL??

Hahahahahahahaha!!! You dont! Because,OLD NATURAL VERSION OF YOU WERE TINY SHIT!
YOU WERE IN DANGER THAT I BEAT YOU(OLD NATURAL VERSION) IN TWO MONTHS!!

When people look at you and ALWAYS people talk about S T E R O I D!!!!!!

[kyomu]

Since I am a chicken who can be killed by butcher so easily,
WHY DONT YOU POST YOUR NATURAL AGE PIC
to kill this chicken who is typing computer now??

[kyomu]

All I want to know is if you are on HRT or if you clean out totally. If you are on HRT when "off", like I think you are, I wouldn't consider that as being clean.

You are demanding him impossible!
Without juice, he will choke himself to die!

[benjamin pearson]

You are demanding him impossible!
Without juice, he will choke himself to die!

English courses take them!!

[Milos_Sarcev]

You didnt read well as ususal.
I said" For doping".
You said"This is new to me".
Bacon...OK.

I can turn myself into lean body in 2 months.

But how about you juice head, Can you live without steroid and clean your body in two month?
Before you worry about my health why dont you worry about your health of long year steroid usage?
Your teststeron level without juice will be miserable,sorry for you....

You can call me fat lard during only two months,but i call you juiced bber FOREVER.

If you dont want,WHY DONT YOU POST YOUR PIC WHEN YOU WERE NATURAL??

Hahahahahahahaha!!! You dont! Because,OLD NATURAL VERSION OF YOU WERE TINY SHIT!
YOU WERE IN DANGER THAT I BEAT YOU(OLD NATURAL VERSION) IN TWO MONTHS!!

When people look at you and ALWAYS people talk about S T E R O I D!!!!!!

This is when you loose the privilege of communicating with me - as it is pointless waste of time for me to "argue" with someone like you...

For your information (and Van Bilderass) I was under investigation by the DEA (if you even remember...).
Now, if you would even think for a second - if tested (for steroids or any other drugs) at the time of the investigation (duration of more than 2 years) and found POSITIVE - I would face just a "little" problems...don't you think?
Off course - if I would even tell you that at the time of the investigation I absolutely did not use anything (and DEA didn't find NOTHING in my entire house searched up and down - hence could not charge me with the possession)  - you would still not believe me...(but at the same time I have to unconditionally believe that most of you who claim to be drug free for life - are indeed drug free...)

So on one side - even if I had MAJOR danger of being found POSITIVE - you will still assume that I would take the risk ...and if for example I would be tested and pass - you will again conclude that "I cheated" - anyway...

So - how can I ever win this argument?

On top of that - my testosterone levels are ABOVE the reference range - and it was the same for over two years WITHOUT the "juice"...
Why?
Anyone who knows my cycles would know the reason ...also - there are MANY NATURAL WAYS to increase testosterone levels...but for that you need a little knowledge and a research (which just happens to be something that I have...)

Finally, did you ever wonder how someone like me doesn't fluctuate much in body weight and overall appearance - but some of you so called "naturals" [ Mr. Mamba for example ] for life balloon up after the show and can't get in shape for more than 10 years?

It is really comical... ...but I guess I should also put: Hahahahahahahahahaha...t o make myself look like I am winning the argument...Oh boy...

[Van_Bilderass]

This is when you loose the privilege of communicating with me - as it is pointless waste of time for me to "argue" with someone like you...

For your information (and Van Bilderass) I was under investigation by the DEA (if you even remember...).
Now, if you would even think for a second - if tested (for steroids or any other drugs) at the time of the investigation (duration of more than 2 years) and found POSITIVE - I would face just a "little" problems...don't you think?
Off course - if I would even tell you that at the time of the investigation I absolutely did not use anything (and DEA didn't find NOTHING in my entire house searched up and down - hence could not charge me with the possession)  - you would still not believe me...(but at the same time I have to unconditionally believe that most of you who claim to be drug free for life - are indeed drug free...)

So on one side - even if I had MAJOR danger of being found POSITIVE - you will still assume that I would take the risk ...and if for example I would be tested and pass - you will again conclude that "I cheated" - anyway...

So - how can I ever win this argument?

On top of that - my testosterone levels are ABOVE the reference range - and it was the same for over two years WITHOUT the "juice"...
Why?
Anyone who knows my cycles would know the reason ...also - there are MANY NATURAL WAYS to increase testosterone levels...but for that you need a little knowledge and a research (which just happens to be something that I have...)

Finally, did you ever wonder how someone like me doesn't fluctuate much in body weight and overall appearance - but some of you so called "naturals" [ Mr. Mamba for example ] for life balloon up after the show and can't get in shape for more than 10 years?

It is really comical... ...but I guess I should also put: Hahahahahahahahahaha...t o make myself look like I am winning the argument...Oh boy...

If you have a legitimate script for hypogonadism I don't think the LE could do anything about it?? I don't know, I'm asking. Maybe your doctor could prescribe steroids and GH due to your burns? You did say you were taking prescribed Oxandrin after your accident. Recently Ronnie's home was searched and he had prescribed steroids - did he commit a crime? Tons of pros have "HRT" scripts. Lee Priest has said he has no problems flying with the stuff since he has legitimate scripts. Bob Chic says he is all legal. Ronnie has said he "isn't natural but he is legal". Maybe your case was different and you could not use steroids even for legitimate (or semi-legitimate) medical reasons? So I'm asking again (I'm not accusing you, I just want to be clear on this matter): you didn't use or have in your possession even legally prescribed steroids? For 2 whole years?

BTW, I know quite a bit about how you could increase natural testosterone. I doubt you could tell me anything I don't know. But please talk about it if you can, I always want to learn.

 

[kyomu]

This is when you loose the privilege of communicating with me - as it is pointless waste of time for me to "argue" with someone like you...

For your information (and Van Bilderass) I was under investigation by the DEA (if you even remember...).
Now, if you would even think for a second - if tested (for steroids or any other drugs) at the time of the investigation (duration of more than 2 years) and found POSITIVE - I would face just a "little" problems...don't you think?
Off course - if I would even tell you that at the time of the investigation I absolutely did not use anything (and DEA didn't find NOTHING in my entire house searched up and down - hence could not charge me with the possession)  - you would still not believe me...(but at the same time I have to unconditionally believe that most of you who claim to be drug free for life - are indeed drug free...)

So on one side - even if I had MAJOR danger of being found POSITIVE - you will still assume that I would take the risk ...and if for example I would be tested and pass - you will again conclude that "I cheated" - anyway...

So - how can I ever win this argument?

On top of that - my testosterone levels are ABOVE the reference range - and it was the same for over two years WITHOUT the "juice"...
Why?
Anyone who knows my cycles would know the reason ...also - there are MANY NATURAL WAYS to increase testosterone levels...but for that you need a little knowledge and a research (which just happens to be something that I have...)

Finally, did you ever wonder how someone like me doesn't fluctuate much in body weight and overall appearance - but some of you so called "naturals" [ Mr. Mamba for example ] for life balloon up after the show and can't get in shape for more than 10 years?

It is really comical... ...but I guess I should also put: Hahahahahahahahahaha...t o make myself look like I am winning the argument...Oh boy...

Hahahahahahaha!!!

Ok Listen.

YOU ARE THE PERSON WHO TOLD ME TO BE NICE.

AND I WAS KEEP ON BEING NICE.

BUT WHO START BASH WHO?

It was YOU who started BASH ME.

I dont have any problem with anybody here BUT YOU.
Even the squadfather and The shadow treat me right and i am appriciated.

In this summer,i was seriously thinking about visiting you for getting your instruction.
For me it was like a dream to train with the bbing superstar like you.

But In any case(even if i treat you good), you attack me and getting worse the stuation.
So Whats is that privilage of talking with you for?

I dont need it anymore though.

[Milos_Sarcev]

Hahahahahahaha!!!

Ok Listen.

YOU ARE THE PERSON WHO TOLD ME TO BE NICE.

AND I WAS KEEP ON BEING NICE.

BUT WHO START BASH WHO?

It was YOU who started BASH ME.

I dont have any problem with anybody here BUT YOU.
Even the squadfather and The shadow treat me right and i am appriciated.

In this summer,i was seriously thinking about visiting you for getting your instruction.
For me it was like a dream to train with the bbing superstar like you.

But In any case(even if i treat you good), you attack me and getting worse the stuation.
So Whats is that privilage of talking with you for?

I dont need it anymore though.

 

 

[Stavios]

Ok so I trained arms again yesterday and 2 of my friends came with me.

we did 5 giant sets of 6 exercise for biceps and the same thing for triceps.

now after we finished the biceps, the 2 of them said: "Dude it is way too much sets, we will overtrain"

I bitched slapped both of them and instead of doing the normal giant sets for the triceps, we did every exercise with a drop set too !!!!!

Needless to say, they were owned at the end of the training and I plan to destroy them again today with the shoulders and abs workout 

[Milos_Sarcev]

Ok so I trained arms again yesterday and 2 of my friends came with me.

we did 5 giant sets of 6 exercise for biceps and the same thing for triceps.

now after we finished the biceps, the 2 of them said: "Dude it is way too much sets, we will overtrain"

I bitched slapped both of them and instead of doing the normal giant sets for the triceps, we did every exercise with a drop set too !!!!!

Needless to say, they were owned at the end of the training and I plan to destroy them again today with the shoulders and abs workout 

Good man.

OVERTRAINING mentioning = accepting that you are sissy

[Van_Bilderass]

Good man.

OVERTRAINING mentioning = accepting that you are sissy

Milos, do you remember the sissy who said, "stimulate, don't annihilate"? 

[THEBERG]

Good man.

OVERTRAINING mentioning = accepting that you are sissy

hey milo's do you think that overtraining is actually hard to acheive and that more often than not it is lack or nutrition and sleep that causes sympton of overtraining??

[Milos_Sarcev]

Milos, do you remember the sissy who said, "stimulate, don't annihilate"? 

Lee Haney?

Have you heard him mentioning overtraining?
I said people who keep mentioning whatever they see as "overtraining" are sissies  ...For some - 2 sets of whatever is overtraining as one should be more than enough...

Amount of work one does is obviously POSSIBLE - as he/she just finished...now after that OTHER FACTORS determine if that workout will be effective (stimulating...and creating ANABOLISM) or annihilating (counterproductive and causing CATABOLISM)...

As I said - there is no such a thing as overtraining - there is only under-eating and under-sleeping

[Milos_Sarcev]

hey milo's do you think that overtraining is actually hard to beleive and that more often than not it is lack or nutrition and sleep that causes sympton of overtraining??

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