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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1075 on: November 05, 2024, 01:03:16 AM »
and again, I ask for a link to that comment. Either produce it or don't
Either watch the debate or don't. I don't give a shit.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1076 on: November 05, 2024, 08:18:21 PM »
Either watch the debate or don't. I don't give a shit.

So.. you made it up.. ok

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1077 on: November 06, 2024, 12:48:40 AM »
So.. you made it up.. ok
Well, Trump just kicked your ass, so, who cares now?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1078 on: November 13, 2024, 05:13:55 PM »
Louisiana governor tells parents against Ten Commandments in classrooms: 'Tell your child not to look'

Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry has a suggestion for parents who don't believe the Ten Commandments should be displayed in public school classrooms throughout the state.

"Tell your child not to look at them," he told reporters Monday.

The Republican governor defended the controversial legislation during a news conference announcing how Louisiana intends to fend off a lawsuit that argues that it is unconstitutional to hang the Ten Commandments in state-funded school and college classrooms.

But the move prompted a coalition of parents — Jewish, Christian, Unitarian Universalist and nonreligious — to sue the state days later in federal court. They argue that the legislation "substantially interferes with and burdens" their First Amendment right to raise their children with whatever religious doctrine they want.

Landry said the backlash against the law is unwarranted. House Bill 71 passed overwhelmingly and included bipartisan support from some Democrats, he added.

Given that Republicans hold a supermajority in both chambers of the state Legislature, which has allowed Landry to push forward a conservative, tough-on-crime agenda, the governor upheld the Ten Commandments law as an example of how "the majority gets to rule."

"I don't see what the whole big fuss is about," he said Monday.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-governor-tells-parents-ten-commandments-classrooms-tell-chil-rcna165147



Federal judge blocks Louisiana law that requires classrooms to display Ten Commandments

A new Louisiana requirement that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public classroom by Jan. 1 was temporarily blocked Tuesday by a federal judge who said the law is "unconstitutional on its face."

U.S. District Judge John W. deGravelles in Baton Rouge said the law had an "overtly religious" purpose, and rejected state officials' claims that the government can mandate the posting of the Ten Commandments because they hold historical significance to the foundation of U.S. law. His opinion noted that no other foundational documents — including the Constitution or the Bill of Rights — must be posted.

In recent years, similar bills requiring the Ten Commandments to be displayed in classrooms have been proposed in other states including Texas, Oklahoma and Utah. However, with threats of legal battles over the constitutionality of such measures, none have gone into effect.

In 1980, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a similar Kentucky law was unconstitutional and violated the First Amendment establishment, which says Congress can "make no law respecting an establishment of religion." The high court found that the law had no secular purpose but rather served a plainly religious purpose.

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/12/g-s1-33848/louisiana-ten-commandments-classroom-federal-judge-blocks

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1079 on: November 13, 2024, 09:25:22 PM »


Federal judge blocks Louisiana law that requires classrooms to display Ten Commandments

A new Louisiana requirement that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public classroom by Jan. 1 was temporarily blocked Tuesday by a federal judge who said the law is "unconstitutional on its face."

U.S. District Judge John W. deGravelles in Baton Rouge said the law had an "overtly religious" purpose, and rejected state officials' claims that the government can mandate the posting of the Ten Commandments because they hold historical significance to the foundation of U.S. law. His opinion noted that no other foundational documents — including the Constitution or the Bill of Rights — must be posted.

In recent years, similar bills requiring the Ten Commandments to be displayed in classrooms have been proposed in other states including Texas, Oklahoma and Utah. However, with threats of legal battles over the constitutionality of such measures, none have gone into effect.

In 1980, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a similar Kentucky law was unconstitutional and violated the First Amendment establishment, which says Congress can "make no law respecting an establishment of religion." The high court found that the law had no secular purpose but rather served a plainly religious purpose.

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/12/g-s1-33848/louisiana-ten-commandments-classroom-federal-judge-blocks

I thought this was settled years ago. Why aren't there serious fines for violating this? 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1080 on: November 22, 2024, 11:47:13 AM »
Texas Board of Education votes to approve Bible curriculum in elementary schools

The Texas Board of Education narrowly voted Friday to allow Bible-based curriculum in elementary schools.

The curriculum adopted by the Texas State Board of Education, which is controlled by elected Republicans, is optional for schools to implement, but they will receive additional funding if they do so. The materials could appear in classrooms as early as next school year.

Republican Gov. Greg Abbott has voiced support for the lesson plans, which were provided by the state’s education agency that oversees the more than 5 million students in Texas public schools.

The vote passed 8-7.

Staci Childs, who is an attorney and a Democrat who voted against the Bible curriculum at Friday's hearing, said she believes it will be challenged in court.

“So if those facts alone, if a parent or a teacher who didn’t feel comfortable teaching this were to bring this up to a court, I believe they would be successful," she said. "And in my good conscience, in protecting my bar license, I just do not feel that these materials are yet reflective of the experiences and the nuance of Texas students."

The new Texas curriculum follows Republican-led efforts in neighboring states to give religion more of a presence in public schools. In Oklahoma, the state’s education chief has ordered a copy of the Bible in every classroom, while Louisiana wants to make all of the state’s public school classrooms post the Ten Commandments beginning next year.

With the new curriculum, Texas would be the first state to introduce Bible lessons in schools in this manner, according to Matthew Patrick Shaw, an assistant professor of public policy and education at Vanderbilt University.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-board-education-votes-approve-bible-curriculum-elementary-school-rcna181415

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1081 on: November 22, 2024, 02:26:59 PM »
Texas Board of Education votes to approve Bible curriculum in elementary schools

The Texas Board of Education narrowly voted Friday to allow Bible-based curriculum in elementary schools.

The curriculum adopted by the Texas State Board of Education, which is controlled by elected Republicans, is optional for schools to implement, but they will receive additional funding if they do so. The materials could appear in classrooms as early as next school year.

Republican Gov. Greg Abbott has voiced support for the lesson plans, which were provided by the state’s education agency that oversees the more than 5 million students in Texas public schools.

The vote passed 8-7.

Staci Childs, who is an attorney and a Democrat who voted against the Bible curriculum at Friday's hearing, said she believes it will be challenged in court.

“So if those facts alone, if a parent or a teacher who didn’t feel comfortable teaching this were to bring this up to a court, I believe they would be successful," she said. "And in my good conscience, in protecting my bar license, I just do not feel that these materials are yet reflective of the experiences and the nuance of Texas students."

The new Texas curriculum follows Republican-led efforts in neighboring states to give religion more of a presence in public schools. In Oklahoma, the state’s education chief has ordered a copy of the Bible in every classroom, while Louisiana wants to make all of the state’s public school classrooms post the Ten Commandments beginning next year.

With the new curriculum, Texas would be the first state to introduce Bible lessons in schools in this manner, according to Matthew Patrick Shaw, an assistant professor of public policy and education at Vanderbilt University.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-board-education-votes-approve-bible-curriculum-elementary-school-rcna181415

I don't agree with this.  If you want your child to receive religious education in middle or high school, send them to a parochial school. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1082 on: November 23, 2024, 01:40:13 AM »
I don't agree with this.  If you want your child to receive religious education in middle or high school, send them to a parochial school.
Agreed.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1083 on: November 28, 2024, 11:26:30 AM »
New report shows nearly 70% of Biden admin's education enforcement targeted Christian and career colleges
Christian colleges Grand Canyon University and Liberty University have been subjected to sharp scrutiny
By Joshua Q. Nelson Fox News
Published November 28, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-report-shows-70-biden-administrations-education-enforcement-targeted-christian-colleges

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1084 on: November 29, 2024, 12:49:06 AM »
New report shows nearly 70% of Biden admin's education enforcement targeted Christian and career colleges
Christian colleges Grand Canyon University and Liberty University have been subjected to sharp scrutiny
By Joshua Q. Nelson Fox News
Published November 28, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-report-shows-70-biden-administrations-education-enforcement-targeted-christian-colleges
Only the public schools can indoctrinate.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1085 on: December 14, 2024, 12:24:27 AM »
Can we all agree personal religious beliefs are personal and should NOT be a part of law, school, government? Can we all agree on that? I mean no one, and I mean no one has proved the bible, Koran, Mormon bible etc   to be true. In fact, it's utterly ridiculous to say it is. As an Atheist i'm ok with calling a draw

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1086 on: December 14, 2024, 12:38:42 AM »
Can we all agree personal religious beliefs are personal and should NOT be a part of law, school, government? Can we all agree on that? I mean no one, and I mean no one has proved the bible, Koran, Mormon bible etc   to be true. In fact, it's utterly ridiculous to say it is. As an Atheist i'm ok with calling a draw
Depends on your country. If you live in the Middle East, no.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1087 on: December 25, 2024, 08:28:08 AM »
So.. you made it up.. ok
One of Kamala's staffers stated Kamala didn't own a gun, but Kamala said multiple times after that she does.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1088 on: December 25, 2024, 08:32:37 AM »
Texas Board of Education votes to approve Bible curriculum in elementary schools

The Texas Board of Education narrowly voted Friday to allow Bible-based curriculum in elementary schools.

The curriculum adopted by the Texas State Board of Education, which is controlled by elected Republicans, is optional for schools to implement, but they will receive additional funding if they do so. The materials could appear in classrooms as early as next school year.

Republican Gov. Greg Abbott has voiced support for the lesson plans, which were provided by the state’s education agency that oversees the more than 5 million students in Texas public schools.

The vote passed 8-7.

Staci Childs, who is an attorney and a Democrat who voted against the Bible curriculum at Friday's hearing, said she believes it will be challenged in court.

“So if those facts alone, if a parent or a teacher who didn’t feel comfortable teaching this were to bring this up to a court, I believe they would be successful," she said. "And in my good conscience, in protecting my bar license, I just do not feel that these materials are yet reflective of the experiences and the nuance of Texas students."

The new Texas curriculum follows Republican-led efforts in neighboring states to give religion more of a presence in public schools. In Oklahoma, the state’s education chief has ordered a copy of the Bible in every classroom, while Louisiana wants to make all of the state’s public school classrooms post the Ten Commandments beginning next year.

With the new curriculum, Texas would be the first state to introduce Bible lessons in schools in this manner, according to Matthew Patrick Shaw, an assistant professor of public policy and education at Vanderbilt University.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-board-education-votes-approve-bible-curriculum-elementary-school-rcna181415
Anything that involves Christianity in the classroom will be challenged and overturned...I don't pay much attention to these types of things.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1089 on: December 25, 2024, 08:35:42 AM »
Can we all agree personal religious beliefs are personal and should NOT be a part of law, school, government? Can we all agree on that? I mean no one, and I mean no one has proved the bible, Koran, Mormon bible etc   to be true. In fact, it's utterly ridiculous to say it is. As an Atheist i'm ok with calling a draw

I want a kingdom led by King Jesus.  I want folks to turn to Christ.  I'm simple like that.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1090 on: January 06, 2025, 04:06:11 PM »
Dem Leaders Hold Jan 6 Prayer Session, Rip Republicans During Trump Certification
SCHUMER: "We hope we serve as an example to our Republican colleagues."
By  Hank Berrien
Jan 6, 2025   DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/dem-leaders-hold-jan-6-prayer-session-rip-republicans-during-trump-certification?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1091 on: January 06, 2025, 04:12:40 PM »
Can we all agree personal religious beliefs are personal and should NOT be a part of law, school, government? Can we all agree on that? I mean no one, and I mean no one has proved the bible, Koran, Mormon bible etc   to be true. In fact, it's utterly ridiculous to say it is. As an Atheist i'm ok with calling a draw

That makes no sense.  People propose laws for a variety of reasons, which could include religious or secular reasons.  The origination of those reasons doesn't really matter.  What matters is whether the policy proposal is sound. 

And what does whether or not the Bible, Koran, Book of Mormon, etc. being proved true have to do with the price of tea in China?  You cannot prove faith-based teachings and beliefs. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1092 on: January 23, 2025, 11:43:32 PM »
Ohio State Players Publicly Thank God After National Championship Win
"I gotta give the glory and the praise to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, man. I wouldn’t be here without him."
By  Hank Berrien
Jan 21, 2025
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ohio-state-players-publicly-thank-god-after-national-championship-win?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1093 on: January 24, 2025, 01:41:20 AM »
Ohio State Players Publicly Thank God After National Championship Win
"I gotta give the glory and the praise to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, man. I wouldn’t be here without him."
By  Hank Berrien
Jan 21, 2025
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ohio-state-players-publicly-thank-god-after-national-championship-win?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand
Did Jesus root against Notre Dame?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1094 on: January 24, 2025, 12:47:46 PM »
Did Jesus root against Notre Dame?

I don't know, but I really wish He would start rooting for my Niners.   :)

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1095 on: January 25, 2025, 12:31:06 AM »
I don't know, but I really wish He would start rooting for my Niners.   :)
He considers the city of San Francisco as Sodom so you are lucky he hasn't burned it down. LA not so lucky. ;D

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1096 on: February 17, 2025, 11:35:56 AM »
Trump Tells National Prayer Breakfast: ‘Let’s Bring Religion Back. Let’s Bring God BACK into Our Lives’
Simon Kent
6 Feb 2025
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/02/06/trump-attends-bipartisan-national-prayer-breakfast-in-d-c/

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1097 on: February 27, 2025, 05:20:30 PM »
Scott Turner
@SecretaryTurner
Giving the opening prayer at President Trump’s first cabinet meeting was the honor of a lifetime.

Thank you,
@POTUS
, for trusting me to lead
@HUDgov
 and for giving me the opportunity to lift up Americans across the country.

https://x.com/SecretaryTurner/status/1894794425416421580

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1098 on: February 27, 2025, 09:28:53 PM »
Trump Tells National Prayer Breakfast: ‘Let’s Bring Religion Back. Let’s Bring God BACK into Our Lives’
Simon Kent
6 Feb 2025
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/02/06/trump-attends-bipartisan-national-prayer-breakfast-in-d-c/

Using religion for political gain....Trump is the least religious person we all know. I hope people see through this

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1099 on: February 27, 2025, 10:35:13 PM »
Using religion for political gain....Trump is the least religious person we all know. I hope people see through this

Like they saw through Khvntmala & Didn't vote for her.  ;D  👊🏻