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« Reply #700 on: November 16, 2019, 01:19:55 AM »

You are obviously free to disagree.  My oft-repeated saying, which you are free to borrow, is that reasonable and unreasonable minds can disagree.   Smiley

That much we agree on. That's something.

Seriously, though, there is definitely a great deal of analysis that goes into Bible study and interpretation.  The Bible itself even says you need to compare scripture with scripture.  And yes, you definitely need to apply common sense if you want a reasonable interpretation, which goes hand in hand with context. 

I know there is a great deal of analysis; that's the whole point of pastors "explaining" the Bible, isn't it? To be perfectly honest, I do very much enjoy hearing radio pastors who role-play as experts in exegetics and apologetics and regularly twist themselves into knots to justify just about anything.

Of course, there's the simple fact that no amount of analysis works sometimes. You know what they say: "garbage in, garbage out."


There are some things I don't understand, but much of it I do.  And I use my own judgment.  I apply logic.  Use faith where I think it's necessary.  It makes things relatively uncomplicated.  And I have no problem disagreeing with other Christians who have a different viewpoint, which has happened a number of times.

I can respect that position.


What I don't do is let anyone tell me how I'm supposed to interpret what I read or how I live my life. 

I can respect that position as well. You're certainly free to interpret what you read in any way you want, but you do so at your peril since, ultimately, you are responsible for your actions and not the book you read. And while you are free to live your life in any way you see fit, that freedom doesn't allow you to try to force your sense of morality on your personal beliefs on others, nor does it entitle you to claim that the Bible proposes a divine and inerrant moral code if you believe that it's open to interpretation.
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« Reply #701 on: November 18, 2019, 03:34:36 PM »

That much we agree on. That's something.

I know there is a great deal of analysis; that's the whole point of pastors "explaining" the Bible, isn't it? To be perfectly honest, I do very much enjoy hearing radio pastors who role-play as experts in exegetics and apologetics and regularly twist themselves into knots to justify just about anything.

Of course, there's the simple fact that no amount of analysis works sometimes. You know what they say: "garbage in, garbage out."


I can respect that position.


I can respect that position as well. You're certainly free to interpret what you read in any way you want, but you do so at your peril since, ultimately, you are responsible for your actions and not the book you read. And while you are free to live your life in any way you see fit, that freedom doesn't allow you to try to force your sense of morality on your personal beliefs on others, nor does it entitle you to claim that the Bible proposes a divine and inerrant moral code if you believe that it's open to interpretation.

There is no peril in how I interpret the Bible or how I live my life. 

Regarding forcing my sense of morality or personal belief on others, I never do that so not sure what you're talking about. 

And I can claim whatever I want about what the Bible proposes, just like you or anyone else can.  My viewpoint is my viewpoint.  Yours is yours.   

What exactly are we debating here anyway?  lol 
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« Reply #702 on: November 28, 2019, 08:19:40 PM »

There is no peril in how I interpret the Bible or how I live my life. 

Regarding forcing my sense of morality or personal belief on others, I never do that so not sure what you're talking about. 

And I can claim whatever I want about what the Bible proposes, just like you or anyone else can.  My viewpoint is my viewpoint.  Yours is yours.   

What exactly are we debating here anyway?  lol 

Obviously you know more about what Jesus said than.....Jesus....  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #703 on: November 29, 2019, 11:50:00 AM »

Obviously you know more about what Jesus said than.....Jesus....  Roll Eyes

I know what He said by reading what He said.  But thanks for another meaningless troll post. 
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« Reply #704 on: December 13, 2019, 09:26:50 PM »

I know what He said by reading what He said.  But thanks for another meaningless troll post. 

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« Reply #705 on: December 13, 2019, 09:41:26 PM »

Obviously you know more about what Jesus said than.....Jesus....  Roll Eyes

Actually, it doesn't take a degree in Theology to understand the teachings of the Nazarene.  Recall if you dare the Jewish leaders belittling the Christ as "just the son of a carpenter", a man who had no learning of worth in the Torah (like them).  You need no degree to see that which is good and worthy of being called so.  But...

But it does take honesty and common sense to understand the teaching of the Nazarene.  Two things that the Jewish leaders and you seem to be lacking.  Don't worry.  You're not alone in that respect.  Look to Straw Man or Prime for example.

Go ahead.  Even in my current state you are no match.
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« Reply #706 on: December 13, 2019, 10:23:14 PM »

Actually, it doesn't take a degree in Theology to understand the teachings of the Nazarene.  Recall if you dare the Jewish leaders belittling the Christ as "just the son of a carpenter", a man who had no learning of worth in the Torah (like them).  You need no degree to see that which is good and worthy of being called so.  But...

But it does take honesty and common sense to understand the teaching of the Nazarene.  Two things that the Jewish leaders and you seem to be lacking.  Don't worry.  You're not alone in that respect.  Look to Straw Man or Prime for example.

Go ahead.  Even in my current state you are no match.

Your first paragraph.. Nothing to contest.



Second,  Other than the baseless claim I don't understand, cool. 

Your last made me laugh..
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« Reply #707 on: December 14, 2019, 07:10:05 AM »

Your first paragraph.. Nothing to contest.



Second,  Other than the baseless claim I don't understand, cool. 

Your last made me laugh..

I speak the truth which you and others here can only make light of, because it is impossible to refute.  I'm not here to make anyone feeeeeel better about their choices in life.  Neither am I here to change the diaper of the liberal mindset.

Your nightmare is the fact that a Christian became as you, that is an atheist, albeit more Atheist and with far great insight and wit that you and your kindred kunts here will ever possess.  I don't give a flying fuque about the state of your "soul" and there is naught you can do but suffer the humiliation of my words.

 
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