Gunman incident on Virginia Tech campus

[Option D]

Now the death toll is up to 32.

i just heard

[Dos Equis]

The story is not even a half a day old, and ALREADY it's George Bush's fault!   

This is beyond asinine! 

You don't even take the time to pray or grieve for the family members who have lost their children or sympathize with the parents who haven't heard from their kids yet.  Instead, you go immediately on a political tirade.  Very childish behavior guys!   

Tell me about it.

This is just terrible.  My prayers are with the family members, friends, and the school. 

[kh300]

thank god the gunman is dead,, last thing you want to do is go after a psycho like this..

your going to be seeing a dramatic increase of security at every college in the country.

[Colossus_500]

thank god the gunman is dead,, last thing you want to do is go after a psycho like this..

your going to be seeing a dramatic increase of security at every college in the country.

I sure hope so. 

[youandme]

your going to be seeing a dramatic increase of security at every college in the country.

yeah for about 4 months then they will cut it to keep the budget in check.

[Tre]

thank god the gunman is dead

As morbid as it sounds, I wish we had the opportunity to get into his head.

It's tragedies like this that remind me why I really do not believe in 'God'.

I'm numb. 

I attended college in the South...can still remember those warm spring days. 

I'm so very numb.

[Colossus_500]

As morbid as it sounds, I wish we had the opportunity to get into his head.

It's tragedies like this that remind me why I really do not believe in 'God'.

I'm numb. 

I attended college in the South...can still remember those warm spring days. 

I'm so very numb.

Did you ever read the story of when Lazaurus was raised from the dead?  How do you think the people felt from the biblical days, where the slaughter of an entire city occured almost daily it seems?  Yet they still held fast to their believe in the Almighty God.  Have you ever pondered the thought that it's at times most tragic like these, that God ultimately shows His compassion, and ultimate glory to those who seek Him out?

Just something to think about, bro?

[ieffinhatecardio]

A shooting similar to this (not nearly as deadly) happened at a school in Vermont more than a decade ago. Like all things the furor over this will last a short time and then we'll forget about it and move to the next issue. I don't think any lasting changes will be instituted because of this.

[240 is Back]

There were 3 hours between shooting #1 and the massacre.


Students are beginning to say the response to shooting #1 was nada.  AN email came at 9:30 about the 7 am shooting, then all hell broke loose right after that.

[Tre]

A shooting similar to this (not nearly as deadly) happened at a school in Vermont more than a decade ago. Like all things the furor over this will last a short time and then we'll forget about it and move to the next issue. I don't think any lasting changes will be instituted because of this.

Right.  We cannot alter everything that's great about the way we live because of random - albeit very tragic - acts of violence. 

I wonder if there will be cell-phone videos of the rampage as it happened.  If so, that would certainly make this very different from any other school shootings in the past. 

I often wish I could go back to those days...so many wonderful memories.

[240 is Back]

one early cell phone video shows police standing outside looking at each other as multiple gunshots rang out inside.

I guess they were waiting for orders or something.

Sad tho - every time that gun cracked, another kid was killed or wounded.  I wanted to jump out of my chair and run in there to help.  How they were able to just stand there, wow.

[ieffinhatecardio]

Right.  We cannot alter everything that's great about the way we live because of random - albeit very tragic - acts of violence. 

I wonder if there will be cell-phone videos of the rampage as it happened.  If so, that would certainly make this very different from any other school shootings in the past. 

I often wish I could go back to those days...so many wonderful memories.

I would bet we'll start seeing videos and pictures by late afternoon or evening. I agree about altering the way we live but at some point these killings will have to effect the way certain people live their lives.

It seems like these things are more and more common. There were roughly 60 killed or wounded. WTF, that's a war zone.

[ieffinhatecardio]

one early cell phone video shows police standing outside looking at each other as multiple gunshots rang out inside.

I guess they were waiting for orders or something.

Sad tho - every time that gun cracked, another kid was killed or wounded.  I wanted to jump out of my chair and run in there to help.  How they were able to just stand there, wow.

60 people killed or wounded is just insane. How long would it take to empty your magazine and reload multiple times?

The carnage of this one is just too shocking.

[Tre]

60 people killed or wounded is just insane. How long would it take to empty your magazine and reload multiple times?

The carnage of this one is just too shocking.

While some are praising the campus police for their rapid response and the fact that they killed the gunman, you have a lot of people already questioning how there was anyone even in the classrooms on campus at 9am when a kid had been shot and killed in a campus dorm at 7:15am.

[240 is Back]

While some are praising the campus police for their rapid response and the fact that they killed the gunman, you have a lot of people already questioning how there was anyone even in the classrooms on campus at 9am when a kid had been shot and killed in a campus dorm at 7:15am.

1 killed, 1 injured at 7:15 am is what one witness said.

the kid and his girl were fighting and the RA came out to intervene.  Both got shot, one lived, one didn't.

looks like a lot of schools are going to re-evaluate their procedures for shutting down campus after something bad happens.

[GreatFinn]

one early cell phone video shows police standing outside looking at each other as multiple gunshots rang out inside.

I guess they were waiting for orders or something.

Sad tho - every time that gun cracked, another kid was killed or wounded.  I wanted to jump out of my chair and run in there to help.  How they were able to just stand there, wow.

And how exactly you would be helping there? Standing there posing with your Clock doesn't help anybody, and that's just about all you can do. You just haven't the time to tell shooter about your conspiracy theories, and get him bored to death...And yes, those polices stand there waiting orders, because they don't have a right to run to bullet. They can protect and serve only while they are living, so they have to keep it that way.

About your pointless and allusive speculation which was meant to show how coward those polices were, it is just shame full to be such an idiot like you. You see police standing and hear some gunshots, but you don't have any idea what is going on outside the picture. You don't see who is shooting, is shooter shooting towards to police or students, you see just one some police standing. You don't know if he is there giving some measurements for sniper, or eating donut. Still you are sure that it shows that they are just cowards, and you, our own little pale skin gangsta- wannabe, are ready to run to help, holding his little weenie in one hand and that lame plastic gun in another...Grow up, and stop that nonsense.

In situation like that, some pale little gangsta- wannabe is just as useful than extra asshole middle of your forehead....well, for you that would be useful, no doubt about that, but I meant generally speaking. In situation like that, you need guys with cool head, not some idiots who think they are tough guys. Not any internet tough guys, if you know what I mean, but look at the bright side of the matter: Now you get a whole new conspiracy theory to yak about. Is it Inside Job? Who Pay The Piper? Did CIA really know about this two weeks earlier? Are You Really a Gay?

[24KT]

1 killed, 1 injured at 7:15 am is what one witness said.

the kid and his girl were fighting and the RA came out to intervene.  Both got shot, one lived, one didn't.

looks like a lot of schools are going to re-evaluate their procedures for shutting down campus after something bad happens.

Why wasn't the kid in custody after the initial shooting? 
There's gonna be a few wrongful death lawsuits over this one

[Tre]

looks like a lot of schools are going to re-evaluate their procedures for shutting down campus after something bad happens.

Someone jumps (or gets pushed) from the 10th floor of his dorm at 11am, life goes on.

Someone gets shot and killed in a dorm at 7am, you put the campus on lockdown before the campus is packed with people.

Someone gets shot and killed in a dorm at 11am, you've got a real problem.

It's always easier to analyze from the outside, but authorities are going to take a lot of heat because of the timeline here. 

[Cap]

1 killed, 1 injured at 7:15 am is what one witness said.

the kid and his girl were fighting and the RA came out to intervene.  Both got shot, one lived, one didn't.

looks like a lot of schools are going to re-evaluate their procedures for shutting down campus after something bad happens.

Well, locking down the entire campus could have trapped the gunman in another building.  If you lock down a dorm or building and a student has access, they can still get in.  No plan survives first contact with the enemy and reevaluating the situation will not change anything for such a big school.  This isn't like a high school shooting.

[Camel Jockey]

I hope they put a few extra rounds in the body of the gunman for revenge's sake..  What gives someone the arrogance to take an innocent's life? I don't understand how someone could murder 30+ people in cold blood..

Times like these makes me not want to trust other people at all.

[240 is Back]

And how exactly you would be helping there? Standing there posing with your Clock doesn't help anybody, and that's just about all you can do. You just haven't the time to tell shooter about your conspiracy theories, and get him bored to death...And yes, those polices stand there waiting orders, because they don't have a right to run to bullet. They can protect and serve only while they are living, so they have to keep it that way.

About your pointless and allusive speculation which was meant to show how coward those polices were, it is just shame full to be such an idiot like you. You see police standing and hear some gunshots, but you don't have any idea what is going on outside the picture. You don't see who is shooting, is shooter shooting towards to police or students, you see just one some police standing. You don't know if he is there giving some measurements for sniper, or eating donut. Still you are sure that it shows that they are just cowards, and you, our own little pale skin gangsta- wannabe, are ready to run to help, holding his little weenie in one hand and that lame plastic gun in another...Grow up, and stop that nonsense.

In situation like that, some pale little gangsta- wannabe is just as useful than extra asshole middle of your forehead....well, for you that would be useful, no doubt about that, but I meant generally speaking. In situation like that, you need guys with cool head, not some idiots who think they are tough guys. Not any internet tough guys, if you know what I mean, but look at the bright side of the matter: Now you get a whole new conspiracy theory to yak about. Is it Inside Job? Who Pay The Piper? Did CIA really know about this two weeks earlier? Are You Really a Gay?

You're a homophobe, which means deep down, you probably dream of cornholing other men.

Aside from that, you're unfunny and a douche.  I hope this clarifies.

[240 is Back]

Well, locking down the entire campus could have trapped the gunman in another building.  If you lock down a dorm or building and a student has access, they can still get in.  No plan survives first contact with the enemy and reevaluating the situation will not change anything for such a big school.  This isn't like a high school shooting.

They didn't have to lock down.  But cancelling classes might have been a good idea.  You have a dead body on campus with a bullet hole in it, another person critically wounded, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE SHOOTER IS, and you allow classes to go on.

IMO, that is a mistake.

[Cap]

They didn't have to lock down.  But cancelling classes might have been a good idea.  You have a dead body on campus with a bullet hole in it, another person critically wounded, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE SHOOTER IS, and you allow classes to go on.

IMO, that is a mistake.

Cancelling classes does nothing when 11,000 incoming students still go to their classes and could get mowed down, even if the buildings were locked.  Also, if you recall at UT, the killer was shooting at targets in open grass, which could have been done here, but with possibly less casualties. 

[Camel Jockey]

The guy who recorded the shit is on CNN.

[Option D]

They didn't have to lock down.  But cancelling classes might have been a good idea.  You have a dead body on campus with a bullet hole in it, another person critically wounded, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE SHOOTER IS, and you allow classes to go on.

IMO, that is a mistake.

i aint no police (pronouonced black style...police=Poe-leese lol) but i thought that keeping the students in the classroom would be best. and then setting up a parameter around the campus would greatly reduce the chances of students roaming around campus.i wouldnt let the students out of class and sent to the slaughter.