Author Topic: why don't more struggling bb go the grant route then? (Read 3279 times)

Tom · « **on:** April 17, 2007, 04:42:52 PM »

just a question i was wondering, you always hear and read and hear and read some more about how only perhaps the top 10 pros in bb make any money, (really just the top 5 in that they could stop right now and retire and live off what they have made already with winnings,endorsements,etc.). so i wonder why al the pro bb outside the top 10, down to the mid-level pros, even down to the npc show winners just don't do the grant route and do some adult movies for more pay?

what their willling to do all of those ahem "lifestyle"videos for various companies and a certain audience (male) but they could make more money kicking it with some hot women in adult films like grant does?

just curious as to why more guys won't do this instead of making like i said these "soft core lifestyle"videos for men and sell steroids and other stuff.

what they be embarassed they couldn't get it going if you know what i mean?

Stark · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2007, 04:44:11 PM »

nuff said...

The Squadfather · « **Reply #2 on:** April 17, 2007, 04:44:36 PM »

maybe their dicks aren't big enough plus you have to perform on cue and with the steroids i don't think those guys could do that.

Parker · « **Reply #3 on:** April 17, 2007, 04:45:29 PM »

Brian Pumper had the same thoughts. He said, there was no money in bodybuilding, plus he didn't want to use steriods. he like to lift wiehgts and screw, so....he is now a sought after porn star.

timfogarty · « **Reply #4 on:** April 17, 2007, 05:01:31 PM »

supply and demand. more actors than jobs. and being a porn actor still requires charisma and screen presence. and Grant is about as big as one could be (muscle wise) to get frequent work.

ThaRealist · « **Reply #5 on:** April 17, 2007, 05:02:24 PM »

If you have at least 500mg of test in you or more a week screwing on cue should not be a problem at all......

Tom · « **Reply #6 on:** April 17, 2007, 05:08:11 PM »

well speaking of grant and other bb physiques, i guess some people in the adult industry actually wouldn't want to hire a huge gigantic pro or top amateur physique in the first place? i think i read somewhere recently that grant himself has producers and directors asking him to actually get even smaller for more roles? i don't get that!

okay, i know i'm going to get ragged on for this comment but here it goes: no matter how straight you are if you watch adult movies wouldn't you prefer to see some bodybuilder with a hot woman that some average guy with the same woman? yeah, yeah, you might not think about it when you watching a scene in some movie of two going at it, but truly if you would think about it and not be homophobic,i think 99 percent of men who watch these films would agree with me that it would be hotter if some huge bb was with some hot woman in these kind of movies then some average body guy.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #7 on:** April 17, 2007, 05:12:22 PM »

Quote from: Tom on April 17, 2007, 05:08:11 PM

well speaking of grant and other bb physiques, i guess some people in the adult industry actually wouldn't want to hire a huge gigantic pro or top amateur physique in the first place? i think i read somewhere recently that grant himself has producers and directors asking him to actually get even smaller for more roles? i don't get that!

okay, i know i'm going to get ragged on for this comment but here it goes: no matter how straight you are if you watch adult movies wouldn't you prefer to see some bodybuilder with a hot woman that some average guy with the same woman? yeah, yeah, you might not think about it when you watching a scene in some movie of two going at it, but truly if you would think about it and not be homophobic,i think 99 percent of men who watch these films would agree with me that it would be hotter if some huge bb was with some hot woman in these kind of movies then some average body guy.

Yeah of course.

Rocco and Nacho are always better when they're in shape - what's your point?

Manuel Ferrara's big weakness is his bad physique. It fcuks up his delivery.

-Hedge

20inch calves · « **Reply #8 on:** April 17, 2007, 05:17:13 PM »

it may be hard to believe but i think some bodybuilders have morals

BayGBM · « **Reply #9 on:** April 17, 2007, 05:54:12 PM »

A surprising number DO go that route, in a manner of speaking. They don’t make movies; instead, they go the escort route.

For better or worse, adult films are still stigmatized in many segments of society and that is likely to continue throughout our lifetimes. Most people know this. (Muscle) escorting is frowned on as well, but it is a more discreet undertaking.

If you make an adult movie it is out there floating around forever and even when it is years old it can resurface to embarrass or humiliate you; the same is true for saucy photos. Remember Vanessa Williams? She has since recovered nicely, but back in the day she experienced one of the most humiliating episodes in American history.

It is also worth nothing that, as a general rule, there is not that much money to be made (by men) in adult films.

Escorting, on the other hand, can be done in relative anonymity. Some of the lower tier bodybuilders you’re thinking of are doing it right now and you don’t know it. I’m not an expert on this, but I have known a couple guys who have done it and based on what they tell me, I think there is more money to be made in escorting than in making adult films. Guys in good shape can charge $500 per.... In other words, there is a potential high cost and little benefit to making movies; there is relative low cost and high (monetary) benefit to escorting. I guess that’s why so many people do it. I just checked one site for male escorts and found

648 male 4 male escorts in NYC
293 in Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
232 in Atlanta, GA
223 in Chicago
109 in Boston
147 in Las Vegas
159 in Dallas/Ft. Worth
299 in San Francisco
104 in San Diego
497 in greater Los Angeles

And that's just one website. Not all of them are bodybuilders, of course, but I’d say more than half are gymrats or bodybuilder wannabes.

Escorting is a popular activity and subject. This thread is two years old and has been viewed more than 31,000 times. http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=36549.0

jtsunami · « **Reply #10 on:** April 17, 2007, 06:13:03 PM »

How bout a website for some hot female escorts!

BayGBM · « **Reply #11 on:** April 17, 2007, 06:25:41 PM »

Maybe I'm getting cynical in my old age, but these days, when I see a guy that is in "too good" a shape for an average guy, I assume he is an escort or into porn/adult entertainment. More than half the time, I've been proven right...

It's become a running joke with some friends: "can you spot the escort?"

gh15 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 17, 2007, 11:32:23 PM »

even if you payed me 10k a scene i wouldnt do those dirty whores,,they may not have hiv and may be checked regularly,,but they are the cheapest most whorish brainless girls that walking earth,,each female porn "star" been abused during childhood by family member or just the neigberhood gang somewhere in mid tx or alabama in a no where to be found town,, majority of porn girlsare fake from top to buttom with only minoity of them natural beauty,,,they all have loose pussy lips and all have holes the size of a football,,thier pussy lips are black!! because they got no more nerve sensetivity because of the 100s of cocks they had in it,,not even talking about the ass,,

why would any bodybuilder do it?? beats me,, i can get in a club if i was single and get almost any girl (whore) i choose for a fuck ,,atleast they only been with 15 guys while clamining to be have had 5

,,but that aint no 300

Dorian01 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2007, 11:41:26 PM »

From what I remember from a female porn actor's website about the glamor of the business: they like to reuse the same guys over and over again. It's tough to break in as a guy, because they don't really want to waste time on new ones. Males are just a prop.

gh15 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 17, 2007, 11:50:22 PM »

might be true,,but when coming to think about it,,why do you go to a porn site to begin with? you go there to cum from those whores being abused,,you go there because you like seeing it and there is market for it,,thats one of the only places you can see abuse in its glory because real life women with class will never go for this shit,,now it is an act but those girls are being abused in any possible way before they get to be a porn "star" and all thru the process

only thing that attracts me in those porn sites is when i see bunch of brothers gang fuck a fake blondie whore,,this is why other guys go there too,,its the complete control you got over woman in a porn that makes guys go there to jack off

those girls been abused for years off the movies and on the movies,,they might fuck the same 60 guys but be sure that they been through 500

Cold · « **Reply #15 on:** April 18, 2007, 02:15:49 AM »

Have you heard of friends and family?

?

DUmb fcuk not everybody is willing to screw whores for a few grand at the expense of friends' and family's respect.

manfromyard · « **Reply #16 on:** April 18, 2007, 04:58:30 AM »

Brian Pumper did it. There was one MMA fighter who did it. There is grant and there's some other dude. i think he is married to porn star/figure competitor Aria? He is pretty ripped out. I really don't know why more don't do it since the females are now entering that realm. Maybe small Willies, or maybe they're simply too big to do much work. I don't know why they would do "lifestyle videos" and jack off on film, or do gay porn (rob sager), when you could do chicks and get paid decently. I think Grant said that the guys get $200-$1000 a scene depending on how good you are. Do 1 scene on Saturday, one on Sunday, and you can get $500 extra a week, and that's only if you work weekends....

Bluto · « **Reply #17 on:** April 18, 2007, 05:12:14 AM »

i cant see a reason why hetero male pornstars should be in shape

the best has never been in shape. tom byron etc.

CQ · « **Reply #18 on:** April 18, 2007, 05:34:21 AM »

Quote from: Cold on April 18, 2007, 02:15:49 AM

Have you heard of friends and family??

DUmb fcuk not everybody is willing to screw whores for a few grand at the expense of friends' and family's respect.

Each to their own, but I have often wondered what these porn girls parents feel about it, especially dads. My parents would literally, be heartbroken if I ever did anything like that.

manfromyard · « **Reply #19 on:** April 18, 2007, 05:40:28 AM »

Do your parents watch a lot of porn? How would they know? And who's to say that all parents would be disappointed? its a legal way to make a living. Wouldn't your parents want to support you in your endeavours, as long as the were legal?

bmacsys · « **Reply #20 on:** April 18, 2007, 06:00:53 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on April 17, 2007, 11:32:23 PM

even if you payed me 10k a scene i wouldnt do those dirty whores

Ever think that may not be so keen on doing you either?

BroadStreetBruiser · « **Reply #21 on:** April 18, 2007, 06:13:04 AM »

This is so stupid. So because you can't make money as a bber you fuck people on camera? Why not everybody who doesn't work just enter the industry and fuck people on camera.

bmacsys · « **Reply #22 on:** April 18, 2007, 06:15:52 AM »

Quote from: BroadStreetBruiser on April 18, 2007, 06:13:04 AM

This is so stupid. So because you can't make money as a bber you fuck people on camera? Why not everybody who doesn't work just enter the industry and fuck people on camera.

Yup. its a pretty dumb assumption.

CQ · « **Reply #23 on:** April 18, 2007, 06:17:51 AM »

Quote from: manfromyard on April 18, 2007, 05:40:28 AM

Do your parents watch a lot of porn? How would they know? And who's to say that all parents would be disappointed? its a legal way to make a living. Wouldn't your parents want to support you in your endeavours, as long as the were legal?

Never said all parents would be dissapointed, merely said mine would - which they would. I own my own business, and my parents are instrumental in it's success. When I compete my mom makes all 6 daily meals for me, every day. Support is something they are full of, to put it mildly. I adore my parents. I don't care what anyone else does, porn hurts no one so I see no issue with it, merely wondered if the girls parents mind.

BayGBM · « **Reply #24 on:** April 18, 2007, 07:12:17 AM »

Quote from: BroadStreetBruiser on April 18, 2007, 06:13:04 AM

This is so stupid. So because you can't make money as a bber you fuck people on camera? Why not everybody who doesn't work just enter the industry and fuck people on camera.

Actually, it's not a big leap. In body building, figuratively at least, you're a piece of meat using your body to satisfy an audience. The same is true in porn. It's not a coincidence that so many gymrats and bodybuilders end up private posing and escorting. There is a lot of overlap between body building and adult entertainment. Drug use, for example...

For every educated, professionally employed bodybuilder there are at least fifty undereducated, marginally employed, bodybuilders with little to no future orientation. You make the choice:

a) a scene in porn--on film--that could come back to haunt you for $500

or

b) private pose (maybe get your cock sucked) behind closed doors by some schmoe for $500. I guarantee there is a guy at your gym who is escorting.