Bonds is getting TOO CLOSE!

[pumpster]

I'm just saying, if you are going to persecute Bonds, be honest and level and admit to yourselves that the use of drugs in MLB (and most all sports) is very widespread and has been for a loooooong time. Focusing on one unlikeable player because he is going to break the record set by a guy who could have been doping too (if you don't think so, you're soooo wrong) just because he's a twat is juvenile and hypocrisy.

I don't think Bonds is clean. I don't think he's free of guilt. I do think that players have been doping for decades, and as such, you might as well asterisk all of sports. I can go back for 60 years and analyze players stats and bodies and give you hundreds of them as examples of likely dopers, not to mention those who exhibit no signs (like Palmeiro) physically.

Nevermind the amphetamines issue, the most used drug in baseball.

You guys are without perspective. Widen your focus.

The funniest thing about you aside from the obnoxiousness is that you yourself have narrow perspectives that you tie into your flawed logic, then tell others to be better than you are. bwhahahaahahahahah

Using a lame argument that everyone else is guilty so it's ok is tired and one-dimensional. Go away you're boring and your arguments are simplistic.


Hope this helps.

[Dos Equis]

Look at the size of that cranium.     Reminds me of this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116996/

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0116996/Ss/0116996/1-1.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0116996

[Dos Equis]

I'm just saying, if you are going to persecute Bonds, be honest and level and admit to yourselves that the use of drugs in MLB (and most all sports) is very widespread and has been for a loooooong time. Focusing on one unlikeable player because he is going to break the record set by a guy who could have been doping too (if you don't think so, you're soooo wrong) just because he's a twat is juvenile and hypocrisy.

I don't think Bonds is clean. I don't think he's free of guilt. I do think that players have been doping for decades, and as such, you might as well asterisk all of sports. I can go back for 60 years and analyze players stats and bodies and give you hundreds of them as examples of likely dopers, not to mention those who exhibit no signs (like Palmeiro) physically.

Nevermind the amphetamines issue, the most used drug in baseball.

You guys are without perspective. Widen your focus.

I completely agree.  Drug use permeates pro sports.  With the exception of track and field, I don't think any major sport really wants to crack down on drug use, particularly the NFL.  Too many guys are using, and the players unions, owners, and team management all know it.  It is sort of like the 800 pound elephant in the room.  For example, you have a guy like Vernon Davis who is 6-3, 256, runs a 4.3 40, and is strong as an ox.  Everyone is ga ga over his measureables, but there is zero discussion about what he was using.  No way that guy is clean.  (And I'm a Niner fan.)  He is one of many. 

I'm not happy with Bonds breaking Aaron's record, but I agree that all this fuss over Bonds, but not about anyone else for the most part, is wrong.   

[Rearden Metal]

The funniest thing about you aside from the obnoxiousness is that you yourself have narrow perspectives that you tie into your flawed logic, then tell others to be better than you are. bwhahahaahahahahah

Using a lame argument that everyone else is guilty so it's ok is tired and one-dimensional. Go away you're boring and your arguments are simplistic.


Hope this helps.

I'm so much less obnoxious than you, but I'm sure you can't see that.

My perspective is very wide. I don't approve or disapprove, I just see it for what it is.

You are, still, a girl.

[Rearden Metal]

I completely agree.  Drug use permeates pro sports.  With the exception of track and field, I don't think any major sport really wants to crack down on drug use, particularly the NFL.  Too many guys are using, and the players unions, owners, and team management all know it.  It is sort of like the 800 pound elephant in the room.  For example, you have a guy like Vernon Davis who is 6-3, 256, runs a 4.3 40, and is strong as an ox.  Everyone is ga ga over his measureables, but there is zero discussion about what he was using.  No way that guy is clean.  (And I'm a Niner fan.)  He is one of many. 

I'm not happy with Bonds breaking Aaron's record, but I agree that all this fuss over Bonds, but not about anyone else for the most part, is wrong.   

glad to see someone else agrees.

[MikeThaMachine]

Time for you to get off his nutz just long enough to realize that he'll never be the clear-cut best ever player for various reasons, especially lack of heart. He doesn't have it even though you look past it and will try to excuse it. There have been other great players WITH that attribute coupled with great talent. He never had it and never will.

BTW stop preaching to others as if you somehow know better.

I know what your all thinking but it's not all just a bias. I say he is def one of the top 5 players to ever play, IMO he is the Cormier of Baseball. He has endless talent and ability but he can't pull it together when it really counts. I would say I am a big fan of his but I just can't take when people refuse to acknowledge the fact that with or without drugs he is one of the best players to ever play. He has 7 MVP's and thats almost twice as many as the next best guy, drugs don't give you that many MVP's, in the case of some yeah you could account 1-2 to the drugs giving him the endurance and power to dominate but he earned many of those through pure talent. He is almost like Dan Marino, he has the numbers but not the defining moments of a true champion. Either way you can't deny he is just really that good.

[YoungBlood]

I think too many people are letting the steroid issue and the "classic game of baseball with Hank Aaron" cloud their judgment.
No matter how much shit Barry may or MAY NOT take (yes, I am of the opinion that he IS taking juice), that cannot help his natural gift of being able to judge a pitch and his hand-eye coordination.
Ted Williams used to have umpires ask him if the pitch was a strike or not- and he was the last player to ever bat .400. I guess he must have been on the sauce too?
Hank Aaron- again I'll reiterate this- was drinking "Red Juice" that contained Benzedrine, which is speed similar to ephedra. Yet this fucker (that's right, I'm calling Hank Aaron a fucker ) is being a hypocrite and saying he won't attend Barry's game in which he'll break his record, or making public statements that he doesn't know how to spell Barry's name? That's low. Of all the people that should understand what Barry is going through right now, Hank should be the first to understand. With people making death threats to him as he neared the "white mans" record, Hank should know what it's like.
Yet he's turning his head, because Barry is suspected of taking steroids. Yet he can have speed (the Benzedrine) and it's okay......

[pumpster]

glad to see someone else agrees.

FYI Bum has a questionable record of judgement & sports prognostication let alone objectivity. He's all over Kobe's nuts.


Hope this helps.

[Dos Equis]

FYI Bum has a questionable record of judgement & sports prognostication let alone objectivity. He's all over Kobe's nuts.


Hope this helps.

   You are an arrogant idiot who uses a Bowflex.  You also torture the English language like Don King.  Hope this helps. 

[Rearden Metal]

FYI Bum has a questionable record of judgement & sports prognostication let alone objectivity. He's all over Kobe's nuts.


Hope this helps.

So it's bad that he loves the best talent left in the NBA? I don't get your point.

[bmacsys]

I think too many people are letting the steroid issue and the "classic game of baseball with Hank Aaron" cloud their judgment.
No matter how much shit Barry may or MAY NOT take (yes, I am of the opinion that he IS taking juice), that cannot help his natural gift of being able to judge a pitch and his hand-eye coordination.

Wrong, number one HGH which Bonds and other guys are accused of using helps your vision. Number two, balls that may have died at the warning track now carry over the fence due to increased bat speed generated by more strength. Number three, these drugs increase endurance dramatically. In August as the season wears on and its hot you don't get tired like a guy who doesn't take drugs. By using these drugs you get a huge edge over a natural player. Come on look at Barrys power numbers from about 1999 on compared to pre 1999. Look at Palmiero, averaging 8 homers per year in his eight years with the Cubs to 40 his first year in Texas playing alongside Canseco.

[pumpster]

  You are an arrogant idiot who uses a Bowflex.  You also torture the English language like Don King.  Hope this helps. 

You have no idea whether i use a bowflex you Kobe cock worshiping tool. Your poor judgement is best summarized by your 100% certainty that the Colts weren't winning the superbowl. That's real vs. made-up bowflex crap hahahahahahahah

[Rearden Metal]

You have no idea whether i use a bowflex you Kobe cock worshiping tool. Your poor judgement is best summarized by your 100% certainty that the Colts weren't winning the superbowl. That's real vs. made-up bowflex crap hahahahahahahah

meltdown.

[Rearden Metal]

Wrong, number one HGH which Bonds and other guys are accused of using helps your vision. Number two, balls that may have died at the warning track now carry over the fence due to increased bat speed generated by more strength. Number three, these drugs increase endurance dramatically. In August as the season wears on and its hot you don't get tired like a guy who doesn't take drugs. By using these drugs you get a huge edge over a natural player. Come on look at Barrys power numbers from about 1999 on compared to pre 1999. Look at Palmiero, averaging 8 homers per year in his eight years with the Cubs to 40 his first year in Texas playing alongside Canseco.

HGH makes you tired, dude. Tired and insulin resistant.

Not that it can't help in some ways, but it's not really quantifyable. Some guys will just get better skin tone, others, acromalogy.

[Dos Equis]

meltdown.

Yep.  This is the same guy who called Tiger Woods erratic and overrated and said Cookie Gilchrist was better than Jim Brown.  There are other gems I cannot recall, but he uses a Bowlfex.  I would put this turkey in the Idiots Hall of Fame.   

[pumpster]

Yep.  This is the same guy who called Tiger Woods erratic and overrated and said Cookie Gilchrist was better than Jim Brown.  There are other gems I cannot recall, but he uses a Bowlfex.  I would put this turkey in the Idiots Hall of Fame.   

Desperation to the point of changing the truth. The quote about Gilchrist came from one of the best all-time NFL personnel managers you idiot.

Please please never bet on football; based on last season you'll soon be homeless and unable to post this crap or worship Kobe's balls on getbig.

On your bowflex obsession: did you get it yet? LOL

[pumpster]

meltdown.

Misapplied, overused buzzword. Very last year.

Your baseball posts are so slanted as to be laughable yet here you are informing others that you have it all figured out hahaahahahahahah

[Dos Equis]

Desperation to the point of changing the truth. The quote about Gilchrist came from one of the best all-time NFL personnel managers you idiot.

Please please never bet on football; based on last season you'll soon be homeless and unable to post this crap or worship Kobe's balls on getbig.

On your bowflex obsession: did you get it yet? LOL

 

[pumpster]

Dude you want a bowflex almost as much as a night with Kobe.

[Dos Equis]

  Hey Don King can you please translate this for me? 

pumpster
Now he's been forcibly shown lucidity while you soldier on.

[Rearden Metal]

Misapplied, overused buzzword. Very last year.

Your baseball posts are so slanted as to be laughable yet here you are informing others that you have it all figured out hahaahahahahahah

What have I figured out. My arguments are solid, man. I never said they were the only point of view, they're just mine.

Personally, I don't like Bonds. I didn't really like Giambi either until I met him and he was funny and joked around with me. I'd give anyone the same opportunity.

Please tell me, what percentage of MLB players do YOU believe to be using steroids or other banned substances?

[OzmO]

More BONDS......


In his home town, in front of all his fans, the ones who have supported him for years, through all allegations, surly attitudes, after getting paid millions and millions of scrilla, and just 5 away from breaking the all time record.............

BONDs refuses to participate in the home derby.

What a selfish no-class punk biotch.

[Rearden Metal]

More BONDS......


In his home town, in front of all his fans, the ones who have supported him for years, through all allegations, surly attitudes, after getting paid millions and millions of scrilla, and just 5 away from breaking the all time record.............

BONDs refuses to participate in the home derby.

What a selfish no-class punk biotch.

Players have said that the home run derby screws up thier swings for the second half of the season. If you go from trying to make contact to trying to pull the ball out, it's difficult to go back. Some guys can do it, some can't.

I doubt this is his reason, but he should use it! 

[YoungBlood]

Players have said that the home run derby screws up thier swings for the second half of the season. If you go from trying to make contact to trying to pull the ball out, it's difficult to go back. Some guys can do it, some can't.

I doubt this is his reason, but he should use it! 

That's always been his reason to not participate.
I had heard up until that day, that Bonds and Griffey were both entered with a bye for the first round- this coming from my roommate who heard it on the the radio. Obviously this didn't happen and he nor I ever heard any follow up to that.
I also heard some bullshit rumors that the reason why Bonds did not like the HR contest was due to his wrists getting hurt while intentionally swinging for the fences. BS.

[Grape Ape]

Bonds is over 40 years old.  I can give him a pass for not being in the derby.

The derby is stupid, anyway.