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Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« on: April 24, 2007, 06:26:38 PM »
 By: Roger Simon
April 24, 2007 08:29 PM EST
Updated: April 24, 2007 09:07 PM EST

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0407/3684.html

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani
Republican presidential hopeful, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani responds to a question at a town hall meeting during a campaign stop at New England College in Henniker, N.H.


MANCHESTER, N.H. - - Rudy Giuliani said if a Democrat is elected president in 2008, America will be at risk for another terrorist attack on the scale of Sept. 11, 2001.

But if a Republican is elected, he said, especially if it is him, terrorist attacks can be anticipated and stopped.

“If any Republican is elected president - - and I think obviously I would be the best at this - - we will remain on offense and will anticipate what (the terrorists) will do and try to stop them before they do it,” Giuliani said.

The former New York City mayor, currently leading in all national polls for the Republican nomination for president, said Tuesday night that America would ultimately defeat terrorism no matter which party gains the White House.

“But the question is how long will it take and how many casualties will we have?” Giuliani said. “If we are on defense (with a Democratic president,) we will have more losses and it will go on longer.”

“I listen a little to the Democrats and if one of them gets elected, we are going on defense,” Giuliani continued. “We will wave the white flag on Iraq. We will cut back on the Patriot Act, electronic surveillance, interrogation and we will be back to our pre-Sept. 11 attitude of defense.”

He added: “The Democrats do not understand the full nature and scope of the terrorist war against us.”

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After his speech to the Rockingham County Lincoln Day Dinner, I asked him about his statements and Giuliani said flatly: "America will safer with a Republican president."

Giuliani, whose past positions on abortion, gun control and gay rights have made him anathema to some in his party, believes his tough stance on national defense and his post-Sept. 11 reputation as a fighter of terrorism will be his trump card with doubting Republicans.

“This war ends when they stop coming here to kill us!” Giuliani said. “Never ever again will this country ever be on defense waiting for (terrorists) to attack us if I have anything to say about it. And make no mistake, the Democrats want to put us back on defense!”

Giuliani said terrorists “hate us and not because of anything bad we have done; it has nothing to do with Israel and Palestine. They hate us for the freedoms we have and the freedoms we want to share with the world.”

Giuliani continued: “The freedoms we have are in conflict with the perverted, maniacal interpretation of their religion.” He said Americans would fight for “freedom for women, the freedom of elections, freedom of religion, and the freedom of our economy.”

Addressing the terrorists directly, Giuliani said: “We are not giving that up and you are not going to take it from us!”

The crowd thundered its approval.

Giuliani also said that America had been naïve about terrorism in the past and had missed obvious signals.

“They were at war with us before we realized it, going back to 90s with all the Americans killed by the PLO and Hezbollah and Hamas,” he said. “They came here and killed us in 1993 (with the first attack on New York’s World Trade Center killing six people) and we didn’t get it. We didn’t get it that this was a war. Then Sept. 11, 2001 happened and we got it.”

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2007, 06:42:55 PM »
Here we go again, exactly what Cheney ran around telling the country in the last election,  BOOO!!!!  VOTE DEM AND YOU'RE ALL GOOOOING TO DIE!!!!

uhm... isn't that terrorism ???




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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2007, 06:48:29 PM »
But if a Republican is elected, he said, especially if it is him, terrorist attacks can be anticipated and stopped.

Wow, has such a mafia thug ring to it...   :-\ 

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2007, 07:58:34 PM »
Campaign season soon will be upon us. We all might want to get used to meaningless political rhetoric. Even if it is inflammatory bullschit.

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2007, 09:02:29 PM »
remember the repubs playing the mushroom cloud ad nonstop right before the election?

you're stupid if you buy it. 

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2007, 09:04:00 PM »

“I listen a little to the Democrats and if one of them gets elected, we are going on defense,” Giuliani continued. “We will wave the white flag on Iraq. We will cut back on the Patriot Act, electronic surveillance, interrogation and we will be back to our pre-Sept. 11 attitude of defense.”

He added: “The Democrats do not understand the full nature and scope of the terrorist war against us.”


He has a point.   :-\

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2007, 09:06:07 PM »
He has a point.   :-\

BB, you of all people do not understand the full nature and scope of the terrorist war against us.


You said oil had nothing to do with the war in Iraq, a statement which has been contradicted by Bush and Snow.

You've not even good at being a parrot neotaint.  Imagine that.  You're terrible at being a terrible person.

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2007, 09:07:36 PM »
BB, you of all people do not understand the full nature and scope of the terrorist war against us.


You said oil had nothing to do with the war in Iraq, a statement which has been contradicted by Bush and Snow.

You've not even good at being a parrot neotaint.  Imagine that.  You're terrible at being a terrible person.

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2007, 09:12:35 PM »
Beach Bum,

everyone here knows you said the war in iraq had nothing to do with oil.

everyone here knows bush stood in the rose garden in december and said the war was about keeping oil prices low.

everyone here now knows you don't respect your President.  Shame on you.

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2007, 09:34:07 PM »
Beach Bum,

everyone here knows you said the war in iraq had nothing to do with oil.

everyone here knows bush stood in the rose garden in december and said the war was about keeping oil prices low.

everyone here now knows you don't respect your President.  Shame on you.

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2007, 09:39:58 PM »
Beach Bum, the way you disrespect the President sickens me.

Even if you disagree with his policy and the war, at least have the dignity to respect the office.

Your statements about it "not being about the oil" when Bush says it is - that's just spreading bad information.

Why must you continually do that, Beach Bum?  Don't you love America?

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2007, 09:46:17 PM »
By: Roger Simon
April 24, 2007 08:29 PM EST
Updated: April 24, 2007 09:07 PM EST

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0407/3684.html

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani
Republican presidential hopeful, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani responds to a question at a town hall meeting during a campaign stop at New England College in Henniker, N.H.


MANCHESTER, N.H. - - Rudy Giuliani said if a Democrat is elected president in 2008, America will be at risk for another terrorist attack on the scale of Sept. 11, 2001.

But if a Republican is elected, he said, especially if it is him, terrorist attacks can be anticipated and stopped.

“If any Republican is elected president - - and I think obviously I would be the best at this - - we will remain on offense and will anticipate what (the terrorists) will do and try to stop them before they do it,” Giuliani said.

The former New York City mayor, currently leading in all national polls for the Republican nomination for president, said Tuesday night that America would ultimately defeat terrorism no matter which party gains the White House.

“But the question is how long will it take and how many casualties will we have?” Giuliani said. “If we are on defense (with a Democratic president,) we will have more losses and it will go on longer.”

“I listen a little to the Democrats and if one of them gets elected, we are going on defense,” Giuliani continued. “We will wave the white flag on Iraq. We will cut back on the Patriot Act, electronic surveillance, interrogation and we will be back to our pre-Sept. 11 attitude of defense.”

He added: “The Democrats do not understand the full nature and scope of the terrorist war against us.”

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After his speech to the Rockingham County Lincoln Day Dinner, I asked him about his statements and Giuliani said flatly: "America will safer with a Republican president."

Giuliani, whose past positions on abortion, gun control and gay rights have made him anathema to some in his party, believes his tough stance on national defense and his post-Sept. 11 reputation as a fighter of terrorism will be his trump card with doubting Republicans.

“This war ends when they stop coming here to kill us!” Giuliani said. “Never ever again will this country ever be on defense waiting for (terrorists) to attack us if I have anything to say about it. And make no mistake, the Democrats want to put us back on defense!”

Giuliani said terrorists “hate us and not because of anything bad we have done; it has nothing to do with Israel and Palestine. They hate us for the freedoms we have and the freedoms we want to share with the world.”

Giuliani continued: “The freedoms we have are in conflict with the perverted, maniacal interpretation of their religion.” He said Americans would fight for “freedom for women, the freedom of elections, freedom of religion, and the freedom of our economy.”

Addressing the terrorists directly, Giuliani said: “We are not giving that up and you are not going to take it from us!”

The crowd thundered its approval.

Giuliani also said that America had been naïve about terrorism in the past and had missed obvious signals.

“They were at war with us before we realized it, going back to 90s with all the Americans killed by the PLO and Hezbollah and Hamas,” he said. “They came here and killed us in 1993 (with the first attack on New York’s World Trade Center killing six people) and we didn’t get it. We didn’t get it that this was a war. Then Sept. 11, 2001 happened and we got it.”

I've been saying this for along time, why are you surprised? Anyone remember me saying that if we get a Dem/Lib as President the major cities and ports would become creaters :-\?

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2007, 09:51:14 PM »
Mr I,

How can you speak authoratively on what the Dems MIGHT do, when you don't even acknowledge what the CIA/FBI/Germany admits - Bush was warned about 911?

Look, do you think think Gore would have done NOTHING when given this information?  If you believe this, then he would have done EXACTLY what Bush did.

In other words, stop bitching about the dems yard, cause your dog shit all over yours.

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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2007, 10:10:45 PM »
Mr I,

How can you speak authoratively on what the Dems MIGHT do, when you don't even acknowledge what the CIA/FBI/Germany admits - Bush was warned about 911?

Look, do you think think Gore would have done NOTHING when given this information?  If you believe this, then he would have done EXACTLY what Bush did.

In other words, stop bitching about the dems yard, cause your dog shit all over yours.

Warned about 9/11? Rob, can you imagine how many "warnings" a President gets a day, week, month or year? Which one's do you take seriously and which ones do you ignore?

I don't need to speak authoritatively on the dems might do, their history PROVES they do little to nothing. Gore? Gore was the vice pres when the USS Cole and all the embassy bombings were taking place, if Gore wanted to do something he could have recommended to Clinton to do something and what was done.........nothing.... ..and yes, judging by the hate speeches that Gore gives (on foreign soil mind you) he might have done less than Clinton if thats possible!

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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2007, 10:23:47 PM »
youre very naive joe :(

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2007, 07:13:42 AM »
  A pathetic attempt by Giuliani to not make himself look like a cross-dressing pussy for a change.

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2007, 07:27:33 AM »
remember the repubs playing the mushroom cloud ad nonstop right before the election?

you're stupid if you buy it. 

Why?  Its true.  democrats will flee Iraq and proclaim Al Quaeda winners and then Al Quaeda says 'great, now we can blow something the fuck up in america!'

God , Al Quaeda will be giddy if a democrats win, who do you think Osama would vote for?  Obama of course.
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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2007, 07:37:52 AM »
Why?  Its true.  democrats will flee Iraq and proclaim Al Quaeda winners and then Al Quaeda says 'great, now we can blow something the fuck up in america!'

God , Al Quaeda will be giddy if a democrats win, who do you think Osama would vote for?  Obama of course.

Dude, Bush and his generals let osama escape from the unbombed, unguarded north road in tora bora.

a 1000-vehicle caravan left in the middle of the battle and was not challenged.

that is when osama escaped, as our generals screamed, and Bush oversaw everything.


Now, I got a feeling osama ain't too skerred of Bush.  3 months after 9/11, and Bush let a 1000-car caravan drive to an airport, from tora bora where we knew osama was.  You do the fcking math.  Bush NEEDS osama alive - cause without a scary boogeyman, there is no need to keep repubs in office.


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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2007, 07:49:20 AM »
I don't need to speak authoritatively on the dems might do, their history PROVES they do little to nothing. Gore? Gore was the vice pres when the USS Cole and all the embassy bombings were taking place, if Gore wanted to do something he could have recommended to Clinton to do something and what was done.........nothing.... ..

Not true.

After the barracks bombing in Saudi Arabia back in '96, the 'buddy system' was mandated for all enlisted personnel and all junior officers deployed overseas that summer. 

I called 'bullshit', because it was an Air Force barracks that was hit, and I was in the freaken Navy.

At any rate, the 'buddy system' mandate meant that I was not permitted to drink a beer in peace. 

Damn you, Bill Clinton!



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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2007, 07:54:14 AM »
remember the repubs playing the mushroom cloud ad nonstop right before the election?

you're stupid if you buy it. 

I would think that everyone by now would realize that the Democrats are weaker on defense. Not that an attack would for sure happen but I would give it better chances with the democrats in power.

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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2007, 07:54:37 AM »
Dude, Bush and his generals let osama escape from the unbombed, unguarded north road in tora bora.

a 1000-vehicle caravan left in the middle of the battle and was not challenged.

that is when osama escaped, as our generals screamed, and Bush oversaw everything.


Now, I got a feeling osama ain't too skerred of Bush.  3 months after 9/11, and Bush let a 1000-car caravan drive to an airport, from tora bora where we knew osama was.  You do the fcking math.  Bush NEEDS osama alive - cause without a scary boogeyman, there is no need to keep repubs in office.


Thats ridiculous, if Osama dies or is dead, trust me, another boogey man will appear the next day.
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2007, 07:56:09 AM »
I would think that everyone by now would realize that the Democrats are weaker on defense. Not that an attack would for sure happen but I would give it better chances with the democrats in power.

because its true, we would play defense again instead of offense and i'm sure Al Quaeda would love to have the ball instead of playing defense.  One gadget play for them and TOUCHDOWN!
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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2007, 07:56:52 AM »
Thats ridiculous, if Osama dies or is dead, trust me, another boogey man will appear the next day.

Have to agree  with that. OBL isn't the boogey man, the network of Al-queda is.

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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2007, 07:57:58 AM »
I would think that everyone by now would realize that the Democrats are weaker on defense. Not that an attack would for sure happen but I would give it better chances with the democrats in power.

We could look at it this way - how "strong" are republicans on defense?  Why the fvck is Osama sitll loose?  If we know he's in the paki/afghan border, why aren't we there in any large force?  We can put 160,000 men in iraq right now, but not 2,000 into that pastun region to kill osama?  

And why hasn't osama been charged for 911?  FBI - run by a repub choice mind you - says they have no evidence OBL was connected to 9/11.  You would think the repubs, so "strong" on defense, would at least be able to make a case against osama.

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Re: Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2007, 07:59:22 AM »
Thats ridiculous, if Osama dies or is dead, trust me, another boogey man will appear the next day.

NO ONE with the fear factor as osama, you know that


"Osama did 911" - remember?

they can't just paint a new guy as that evil.  Every kid in america knows who osama is. No way you have that kinda household name value the next day.