Randy Moss to Ne for a fourth round pick

[body88]

Agrees to restructure entire contract. Takes a six million dollar pay cut for the 07 season. One year deal, he will make 3 mill in 07. Moss is not not due any money until he plays a game. He is on a 5 week trial period. If the pats decide to extend him past 1 year they negotiate a deal. Contract includes protection clauses for pats. I am not a Moss fan, but for a late fourth round pick? Holy moly. The patriots have 8 second day picks today, After they used the 24th overall, they turned there second first rounder into a 2007 4th and 2008 first rounder from San Fran. So the number 28 pick they decided to trade since they did not see anything they liked netted them a extra 2008 first round pick (likley to be be top 15) and Randy Moss (for the fourth). I believe they got the raiders 2008 third rounder also. The 2008 draft is supposed to be very deep so I am frekin pumped.

Btw, espn jus confirmed Moss ran a 4.29 40 for the pats last week.




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Patriots acquire Randy Moss from Oakland
By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff  |  April 29, 2007

Moss held a conference call with the New England media this afternoon.

"I don't think you all understand how excited I am to be a part of this organization," Moss told the media. "I think [New England's] record and what they're about speaks massive volumes. I'm just very, very happy to find some happiness and getting back to what I love to do -- that's play football and going out there and [competing]."

Moss underwent a physical this morning in Foxborough. He agreed to restructure and/or extend his contract to consummate the deal. He was due base salaries of $9.25 million in 2007 and $11.25 million in 2008. The contract he agreed to with the Patriots reduced his pay for 2007 to $3 million.

"I think over the course of my career, I've made a lot of money," said Moss. "I still have money in the bank. By me coming to an organization such as the New England Patriots, why would money be a factor?"

The 6-foot-4, 210-pound Moss enters his 10th NFL season after having played for the Vikings (1998-2004) and Raiders (2005-2006). He had a career-low 42 catches for 553 yards and three touchdowns last season as the Raiders struggled to a 2-14 record, and is said to be motivated to join a winning program.

The acquisition of Moss continues the team's offseason makeover at the position. The Patriots traded for Wes Welker and signed Donte' Stallworth and Kelley Washington in free agency.

Second-year player Chad Jackson, who is recovering from a torn ACL sustained in the AFC Championship game Jan. 21, is also part of the mix. The team also has Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney returning, in addition to longer shots Bam Childress, Kelvin Kight and Jonathan Smith competing for roster spots. Veteran Troy Brown, who is recovering from offseason knee surgery, could also be part of the mix. He remains a free agent.

Moss would project as a starter at one of the team's outside receiver spots.

[pumpster]

Who was the only one open-minded enough to push for this?  LOL This is likely goin to be fuggin great; credit to Belichick, the rest of the coaches and Kraft for their open-mindedness. Between the coaches and players and Moss's own situation now, the downsides are fairly low at this point. If it doesn't work they can bail without letting it get in the way.

[body88]

Pumpster you where correct. For a fourth round pick and him totally restructuring his contract? You cannot say no to that. I did not like Moss, but I have faith in the vets and the coaching he will be kept in line. For him to take a pay cut that says a lot on its own. I will remain cautious of him tho.

It was just confirmed on espn that he ran a 4.29 40 last week for the pats. That is insane.

[headhuntersix]

So who are u going to cover.Maroney has to be loving this move, as he might finally have some holes to run through! No team with any sense will stuff 8 or 9 in the box with Moss and Stallworth going downfield with Brady at QB! I suspect now that "Headlights" will be a camp casualty! I also wonder about Troy Brown. Will they be able to carry all these WRs?

[body88]

So who are u going to cover.Maroney has to be loving this move, as he might finally have some holes to run through! No team with any sense will stuff 8 or 9 in the box with Moss and Stallworth going downfield with Brady at QB! I suspect now that "Headlights" will be a camp casualty! I also wonder about Troy Brown. Will they be able to carry all these WRs?

I would have been against this had it not been for a FOURTH ROUND pick. The guy ran a 4.29 forty last week for NE and GB. I guess Moss is going to totally restructure his contract for less money and to include protection clauses for the pats. The whole pats support system could do a lot for this guy. It better anyway. Either way, he will be gonzo if anything happens.

The pats are switching to zone blocking this year. What Maroney had in college

[pumpster]

Moss restructing tells me my guess was right that he's now been humbled, wants to fit in and win before it's too late.

A little strange that oakland getting a QB in the draft didn't factor in; maybe it was already a solid deal and they didn't want out. From Moss' point of view even a new QB would probably take a couple of years to work.

4.29 at his age is insane.

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

The Ravens defense awaits on Dec. 3rd. Monday night football.


At our house.


Piss on Moss. He'll be popping off at the mouth by week 2, training camp.

[body88]

The Ravens defense awaits on Dec. 3rd. Monday night football.


At our house.


Piss on Moss. He'll be popping off at the mouth by week 2, training camp.

I dont think so. If he gets mouthy it wont be in the first year.People said the same stuff about Corey Dillon. His new contract will have protection clauses for the pats. If you had the chance to get Randy Moss for a late fourth round draft pick and a totally restructured deal you would not take it? I think the pats support system will do wonders for Moss. If not they cut him, no big deal. There will surley be out options for the pats in this deal. Moss said the only team he woud restructure for was NE. Seems like he really wants to play out here with Brady. I would be against this deal if it was for a high pick, but for a fourth rounder and a protection laden deal? Have to do it. Me thinks the pats wanna squeeze a year out of Moss while Chad Jackson develops (wr pick last year) and they gear up to go shopping with all those new/extra picks in a very strong 2008 draft.

The bottom line is this guy is going to open up the whole offense for all the recievers and especially for Maroney Morris and Faulk.

[pumpster]

This is outrageous, someone with his talent finally on a blue chip team. So far largely squandered on so-so teams. Great developing story.

[thisiskeith12]

Here's to hoping he gives the Patsies a lot of BS the next few years!


GOOO BILLS!

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

Honestly, Body88?

I would not take him even for a 4th rounder. I just don't think he's worth the risk. So, he runs a sub 4.3 at 30 years old. What's the big deal? He's always been fast and he's always been known to run those 40 times. I question his heart and his will to win at this stage of his career. He's acts like a bitch nowadays and I don't really think he's matured at all. I just don't think he's personality will fit into that team's chemistry.

He epitomizes the ultimate high risk/high reward player.

Best of luck getting him to shut up and just play football. I don't think Moss cares about being mentored and I don't think he'll respond well to being held in check by those veterans. His best years statistically were while playing under the tutelage of Chris Carter. When Carter retired, Moss talked mad shit about him and yearned to become his own man. He's had a shitty attitude ever since those years.

Not trying to rain on your parade, Body88. Even without Moss' aquisition, I would declare NE a legit Super Bowl contender for the upcoming 2007 season.

 

[thisiskeith12]

Honestly, Body88?

I would not take him even for a 4th rounder. I just don't think he's worth the risk. So, he runs a sub 4.3 at 30 years old. What's the big deal? He's always been fast and he's always been known to run those 40 times. I question his heart and his will to win at this stage of his career. He's acts like a bitch nowadays and I don't really think he's matured at all. I just don't think he's personality will fit into that team's chemistry.

He epitomizes the ultimate high risk/high reward player.

Best of luck getting him to shut up and just play football. I don't think Moss cares about being mentored and I don't think he'll respond well to being held in check by those veterans. His best years statistically were while playing under the tutelage of Chris Carter. When Carter retired, Moss talked mad shit about him and yearned to become his own man. He's had a shitty attitude ever since those years.

Not trying to rain on your patrade, Body88. Even without Moss' aquisition, I would declare NE a legit Super Bowl contender for the upcoming 2007 season.

 

They got Dillion to shut his trap, so I assume they could do the same with Moss. As much I hate NE, they are stacked at receivers now. Stallworth, Moss, even Welker is a little shifty.

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

But I do agree that's it's a no risk scenario compensation-wise in regards to what NE had to give up for him. 4th rounder and restructured deal?? Don't blame NE for taking a shot at him one bit.

The only risk I see is lack of heart, disruption of team chemisty, and playing hard only when he wants to.

4.29 sounds sexy on paper but how it will it translate into his play on the field? We'll wait and see............

[headhuntersix]

They got this guy for a 4th rounder......he'll be fine. They are the odds on favorite for the superbowl......along with San Diego..the dolts lost way to much this off season and have done very little to address it.

[body88]

Honestly, Body88?

I would not take him even for a 4th rounder. I just don't think he's worth the risk. So, he runs a sub 4.3 at 30 years old. What's the big deal? He's always been fast and he's always been known to run those 40 times. I question his heart and his will to win at this stage of his career. He's acts like a bitch nowadays and I don't really think he's matured at all. I just don't think he's personality will fit into that team's chemistry.

He epitomizes the ultimate high risk/high reward player.

Best of luck getting him to shut up and just play football. I don't think Moss cares about being mentored and I don't think he'll respond well to being held in check by those veterans. His best years statistically were while playing under the tutelage of Chris Carter. When Carter retired, Moss talked mad shit about him and yearned to become his own man. He's had a shitty attitude ever since those years.

Not trying to rain on your patrade, Body88. Even without Moss' acquisitions, I would declare NE a legit Super Bowl contender for the upcoming 2007 season.

 

No worries. I would agree with you if we had given up more then a fourth round pick. There is really no risk in that imho. If he does not work out he gets cut and we lose a late fourth rounder. Most fourth round draft picks do not even make the team. A sub 4.3 forty is faster then any receiver in the draft this year.I honestly believe if the pats can hold Corey Dillon in line and Brian Cox, they can do the same with Moss. If not they cut his ass and he hits the bricks. I cannot really as an unbiased fan say that Randy moss for a late fourth rounder and a restructured protection laden contract is not a deal you make. If the pats did not have a proven track record with guys who had "baggage" I would not feel this way. If they had given up a second rounder I would not like the deal. Maroney has gone from a weapon to a huge problem for defenses with Moss ,Stallworth, Brown, Welker and Jackson flying around. if Moss acts like a d bag he will get taken to the woodshed by guys like Rodney harrison and then by the fans. Since it was only a fourth the we gave up I think they will cut his ass real quick if anything happens.

NE currently has the most drafted players starting on there team in the nfl. Ther are not a lot of roster spots for guys to come in and develope. I love this move for a fourth rounder.

[bmacsys]

I would have been against this had it not been for a FOURTH ROUND pick. The guy ran a 4.29 forty last week for NE and GB. I guess Moss is going to totally restructure his contract for less money and to include protection clauses for the pats. The whole pats support system could do a lot for this guy. It better anyway. Either way, he will be gonzo if anything happens.

The pats are switching to zone blocking this year. What Maroney had in college

For a fourth round pick he was a salary dump for the Raiders. Basically that says he had no market value. The upside is pretty big for the Patriots. He is a nice target downfield.

[Option D]

The trade was good for the Raiders also...With that 4th round pick we got Michael Bush...A real 1st round talent. They thought the leg might be a problem thats why he went so late...can anyone say Willis

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

Bush easily would've been the second back taken after Peterson had he not got injured. If he's completely recovered then he will be the steal of this draft.

Guy was a monster before that injury.

[Eric15210]

Patriots will win the Superbowl for sure 

[UPINTHEMGUTS]

Patriots will win the Superbowl for sure 

We'll see about that.

Go Ravens!

[Earl1972]

he was only willing to restructure for the pats

the rich get richer

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[body88]

For a fourth round pick he was a salary dump for the Raiders. Basically that says he had no market value. The upside is pretty big for the Patriots. He is a nice target downfield.

He had plenty of market value. The problem was he would only restructure his contract for the patriots. Spin it anyway you like, the pats traded there late extra first round pick for a 2008 first round pick that is likley to be top 15 and Randy Moss. Anyone who claims they would not burn a late fourth round pick on Randy Moss after he agreed to totally restructure his contract is full of shit. All I know is that Corey Dillon and Brian Cox had plenty of bagage coming in. There have also been several pats players who where garbage, they got cut real fast. This is a no risk deal for the patriots.

[Oldschool Flip]

He had plenty of market value. The problem was he would only restructure his contract for the patriots. Down play it any way you like, the pats traded there second first round pick for a 2008 first round pick that is likley to be top 15 and Randy Moss. Anyone who claims they would not burn a late fourth round pick on Randy Moss after he said he was willing to totally restructure his contract is full of shit. All I know is that Corey Dillon and Brian Cox had plenty of bagge coming in. There have also been several pats players who where garbage, they got cut real fast. This is a no risk deal for the patriots.

Actually body I didn't feel Moss was worth more than a 4th round pick, based on his performance the last 2 years, but this is great for Tom Brady and the Pats if Moss can regain some of his great playing abilty.

[americanbulldog]

The Ravens defense awaits on Dec. 3rd. Monday night football.


At our house.


Piss on Moss. He'll be popping off at the mouth by week 2, training camp.

Gotta agree with upinthemguts here.  The guy has always been a talent, but he has also been a world class tool as well.  Doesn't sell routes that he is not the primary, will not block downfield....... Still the best receiver in the game when he wants to. 

[body88]

Actually body I didn't feel Moss was worth more than a 4th round pick, based on his performance the last 2 years, but this is great for Tom Brady and the Pats if Moss can regain some of his great playing abilty.

Why do we care about his market value? The reason the packers did not get him nor the broncs was because he would not resructure his contract. Anyone who says they would not trade there extra 2008 first round pick for a 2008 first round pick and Randy Moss is full of shit.

Honestly with the track record of players with baggage coming here and doing well I dont see the big issue. 4th round pick and a totally restructured contract for a guy who jus ran a 4.29 40 in Florida? Im all for that.

If Moss was willing to restructure his whole deal like he is doing with NE he would not be a patriot. he is a patriot because he agreed to redo his deal.

If he acts up they will cut him. What are they going to lose 1 of there 3 fourth round picks. Who cares?