Milos Sarcev responsible for bb being dropped in Asia?

[CQ]

I disagree. poverty does indeed mean there will be no bodybuilding.

bodybulding is a sport that needs a lot of good food , good rest and time to train, when majority of ppl have trouble putting food on the table for their family they wont be thinking of taking in 200gms of protein a day.

havent heard of haiti bodybuilders making a scene anywhere, didnt know haiti existed till your post. that should tell u something about their 'success'

the world is unfair, determination exists in every human, from the starving kid in africa to the wannabe bodybuilder in haiti, MONEY does not

Never said they were successful

Just saying bodybuilding does exist in poor nations, as I see it for own eyes.

[musclecenter]

As I have known that our goverment offer money to 2nd & 3rd placement too in Asian Games .
And you can keep getting money (maybe 1 or 2 thousands USD) EVERY MOUNTH !!
 you can get more than this in World Championships or Olympics !!
So welcome best athletes to immigrate into Taiwan !!

[omg]

Never said they were successful

Just saying bodybuilding does exist in poor nations, as I see it for own eyes.

when i said no bodybuilding in asia, i didnt exactly mean there are no bodybuilders at all. i meant it is an obscure sport that probably will never gather success. ok gtg, gd nite

[omg]

As I have known that our goverment offer money to 2nd & 3rd placement too in Asian Games .
And you can keep getting money (maybe 1 or 2 thousands USD) EVERY MOUNTH !!
 you can get more than this in World Championships or Olympics !!
So welcome best athletes to immigrate into Taiwan !!

good to hear that. i can already see jay chou's buddy LIU GENG HONG placing 1st at the coming NY PRO just joking , taiwan is a nice place to live in, minus the govt and the compulsory army. i just dont understand why ur politicians fight all the time on tv, shouldnt they throw themselves in jail? ok gd nite MC

[Milos_Sarcev]

It's got nothing to do with "balls", fol....It's an IFBB AMATEUR event...not PRO. I have nothing to do with it. Why do you automatically believe their was any type of wrongdoing? Just because Milos said so? As usual, there are two sides to every story...

Try and get your facts straight befrore making a bigger ass of yourself..

Bob, you actually doubt my story?

[Milos_Sarcev]

The operative word is "IF" since Milos wanted to talk about everything but " Proof!"

Really?
You listened to our conversation ? (or you were waiting like the little girl to call and find out?)

There is no IF when I speak...and everyone knows it...

If there was IF...I would not mention anything and be in this position (read: facing suspension and loosing my livelihood/contract...)

It is question of HONOR and INTEGRITY Shawn...something you can only DREAM about...and Bob - something that you should KNOW about...

Did you ever wonder WHY WOULD I INSIST WHAT I DO?

Just because I can't wait to get suspended and loose my monthly paycheck (I am getting for 15 years?)...

THINK AGAIN


and I do have a reason to sign with:


STRENGTH AND HONOR...(contrary to you little vessel, who should never even mention it )

[musclecenter]

 i just dont understand why ur politicians fight all the time on tv, shouldnt they throw themselves in jail? ok gd nite MC
[/quote]
That's pussy fighting ,they never lift weights !

[Milos_Sarcev]

Here....this may help you out:


From Milos:


I have been traveling extensively in the last decade and one thing did get my attention:
every time I was in Asia I heard some rumors about gentelman by the name of Paul Chua - fixing the scores of competitions on regular bases...

I didn't take these claims seriously - as I know better that in any bodybuilding competition ONLY A WINNER agrees with the judges...
There were many talks about "fixings" of many competitions - but as I competed 110 times in my life (72 IFBB pro shows) and seeing HUNDREDS of others - I can honestly say that I have never witness blunt fixing of any show...(maybe I would not agree sometimes with placing...but I can't say I saw FIXING - ever).

Not until I went to Doha and witnessed the Asian Games.

Now - some of you might have to realize first what is at stake to understand just little better WHY fixing could be of major proportions...

Gold medalists in that competition (Asian games are held every 4 years - just like the Olympics) would receive $250000.oo - YES, you read it correctly QUORTER of the million dollars from respective governments (each country awards their athletes little different - but that is the ball park range..)

Qatar actually offered $150000.oo BONUS...so two of their bodybuilders (gold medalists) received $400000.oo EACH...
UAE (gold medal in question) offered $250000.oo, HOUSE and brand new Mercedes - to their winner...
Singapore (another BEYOND questionable gold medal) - $250000.oo plus undisclosed bonus...etc

Bob - do you question this?

[sgt. d]

Lee why do you keep avoiding me and lift question?

Why did you lie to ron on camera that you was planning on coming back to the ifbb? Why do you lie so much?  For kicks and thrills?

[Big N]

lol @ Shawn Ray & Chick attacking Milos


What's with the hostility between you guys bro

[onlyme]

Lee why do you keep avoiding me and lift question?

Why did you lie to ron on camera that you was planning on coming back to the ifbb? Why do you lie so much?  For kicks and thrills?

Lying and joking are different.  Hope this helps.  You've been demoted to private

[onlyme]

Here....this may help you out:


From Milos:


I have been traveling extensively in the last decade and one thing did get my attention:
every time I was in Asia I heard some rumors about gentelman by the name of Paul Chua - fixing the scores of competitions on regular bases...

I didn't take these claims seriously - as I know better that in any bodybuilding competition ONLY A WINNER agrees with the judges...
There were many talks about "fixings" of many competitions - but as I competed 110 times in my life (72 IFBB pro shows) and seeing HUNDREDS of others - I can honestly say that I have never witness blunt fixing of any show...(maybe I would not agree sometimes with placing...but I can't say I saw FIXING - ever).

Not until I went to Doha and witnessed the Asian Games.

Now - some of you might have to realize first what is at stake to understand just little better WHY fixing could be of major proportions...

Gold medalists in that competition (Asian games are held every 4 years - just like the Olympics) would receive $250000.oo - YES, you read it correctly QUORTER of the million dollars from respective governments (each country awards their athletes little different - but that is the ball park range..)

Qatar actually offered $150000.oo BONUS...so two of their bodybuilders (gold medalists) received $400000.oo EACH...
UAE (gold medal in question) offered $250000.oo, HOUSE and brand new Mercedes - to their winner...
Singapore (another BEYOND questionable gold medal) - $250000.oo plus undisclosed bonus...etc

Bob I don't understand your position.  It is clear that you should be behind Milos 100% and defending him 100%.  No IF"s ands or BUT's.  Any double talk from you other than defending Milos is just more proof that you work for the IFBB and the brass and NOT the members.  You can double talk all you want but you are WRONG and you know it so does everyone else.  It doesn't matter even if Milos is wrong.  you should be defending a member who has cometed more than any other and as shown his loyalty to the IFBB for allot of years.  This incident proves without a doubt the IFBB is fucked up.  SOmething is brought to their attention and they want to get rid of the source.  And you sit back and do nothing about it.  Dude honestly it would be much better if you quit or at least just admit you are the IFBB rep and have nothing to do with the members.  Thank god you aren't an attorney.  Your loyalty would be non-existent.

[Chick]

Bob - do you question this?

Not at all...I just quoted your post to the guy talking about the poverty in Asia/ bodybuilding.

I didn't say I doubted your story, just that there are two sides to it....I'm sure theirs (Paul Chua, etc.) is different than your own...

As I stated previously...I wasn't there, you were.

To BIGNAV:

I havent attacked Milos, and consider him a friend...always have. Asking a few questions is a far cry from atacking someone...


ONLYME:

Goddam your still as clueless as they come...your first sentence pretty much sums it up. "I don't understand your position.."

Exactly...

[onlyme]

Not at all...I just quoted your post to the guy talking about the poverty in Asia/ bodybuilding.

I didn't say I doubted your story, just that there are two sides to it....I'm sure theirs (Paul Chua, etc.) is different than your own...

As I stated previously...I wasn't there, you were.

To BIGNAV:

I havent attacked Milos, and consider him a friend...always have. Asking a few questions is a far cry from atacking someone...


ONLYME:

Goddam your still as clueless as they come...your first sentence pretty much sums it up. "I don't understand your position.."

Exactly...

Yes I may be clueless on this issue but all I know is if I was called the IFBB Rep then I would be doing everything I could to defend one of the most popular, honest and dedicated IFBB pros in the world.  It seems to me Milos has done an awful to try and improve the IFBB and yet when he discovers something not right he gets suspended.  Just odd.  But hey, I guess if you are used to not counting on your rep to defend the members and hug the nuts of the IFBB then nothing lost.

[bigdumbbell]

Yes I may be clueless on this issue but all I know is if I was called the IFBB Rep then I would be doing everything I could to defend one of the most popular, honest and dedicated IFBB pros in the world.  It seems to me Milos has done an awful to try and improve the IFBB and yet when he discovers something not right he gets suspended.  Just odd.  But hey, I guess if you are used to not counting on your rep to defend the members and hug the nuts of the IFBB then nothing lost.

what is part of the member services package?

[Milos_Sarcev]

Not at all...I just quoted your post to the guy talking about the poverty in Asia/ bodybuilding.

I didn't say I doubted your story, just that there are two sides to it....I'm sure theirs (Paul Chua, etc.) is different than your own...

As I stated previously...I wasn't there, you were.

To BIGNAV:

I havent attacked Milos, and consider him a friend...always have. Asking a few questions is a far cry from atacking someone...


ONLYME:

Goddam your still as clueless as they come...your first sentence pretty much sums it up. "I don't understand your position.."

Exactly...

Bob...are you going to repeat "there is two sides to every story" when you make the claim about something?

There is also a "killer's side" of the story...regarding a murder...

Now Bob - why would you consider me a friend? Always had...as you said?

You see - as I said many times - I always respected you...for a reason...until recently (AGAIN for a reason)...
First - because I thought that you are honest and honorable guy...until (second) I saw you in action...

"Under pressure" you so easily changed the story...as you supposedly told me NO LESS THAN THREE TIMES (how about NEVER...And if actually you did...while first time I would consider taking it...second time I would put you in your place and ask you: "who do you think you are to tell me what to do?"...hence - truth of the matter YOU NEVER told me "you had it under control"...)

Point is: if you considered me a friend...I would certainly expect A SINGLE phone call and possibly interest and concern...asking me WHAT HAPPENED THERE IN Doha...?

As you never did...it is clear to me who's side you are on...
Maybe the side that appointed you to be "athlete's representative"...as athletes certainly didn't vote for you...

Now - do you actually care what happened over there...and IF integrity of the IFBB is actually being questioned?

[Dballn247]

So Milos, I have't been following the situation too closely.  Yes I think your guy was better conditioned and deserved the win.  I don't know if you accused anyone of anything. (too many threads started and I don't want to sift through them all). 

My question is, were you suspended from the IFBB?  I heard that you may compete this year, if so will it be in the PDI?   

[Chick]

Bob...are you going to repeat "there is two sides to every story" when you make the claim about something?

There is also a "killer's side" of the story...regarding a murder...


You're right...and often, things do not appear as they seem. That's why we have a justice system, or in this case...a process which should be followed, which you chose to ignore.


Now Bob - why would you consider me a friend? Always had...as you said?

You see - as I said many times - I always respected you...for a reason...until recently (AGAIN for a reason)...
First - because I thought that you are honest and honorable guy...until (second) I saw you in action...

"Under pressure" you so easily changed the story...as you supposedly told me NO LESS THAN THREE TIMES (how about NEVER...And if actually you did...while first time I would consider taking it...second time I would put you in your place and ask you: "who do you think you are to tell me what to do?"...hence - truth of the matter YOU NEVER told me "you had it under control"...)

Now I know there are truly two sides, as you cant even recall the simplest of details...There were no less than 20 people that will verify that I did, in fact, turn to you AT LEAST three times...and tell you "Milos...I've got it..." Milos..hang on...", etc....

Who am I to tell you? I'm the athletes representative who was addressing the situation at hand with the head judge...I don't recall asking for your assistance. You aint putting anyone in their place, let alone me.


 Point is: if you considered me a friend...I would certainly expect A SINGLE phone call and possibly interest and concern...asking me WHAT HAPPENED THERE IN Doha...?

Funny...I didn't get a call from you, either. Why didn't you pick up the phone to alert your A rep of the happenings in Doha? You certainly knew before I did...

As you never did...it is clear to me who's side you are on...
Maybe the side that appointed you to be "athlete's representative"...as athletes certainly didn't vote for you...

Now - do you actually care what happened over there...and IF integrity of the IFBB is actually being questioned?


I always care if the integrity of the IFBB is being followed, and If fair treatment is being given to our athletes...that's why I fight for the changes I have...difference is, I go through the proper channels and actualy get things done.Talking louder and taking matters into your own hands has done nothing so far, except get BB dropped from the games and cost athletes a lot of money in the future

[Shawn Ray]

Milos, you need a freaking Therapist before you shoot up the entire world!

[davidpaul]

Milos you need more detail in your posts.

[SWOLETRAIN]

Grown men. Pro bodybuilders. Bitching to each other on internet fourms.Too freakin funny!

[onlyme]

Milos, you need a freaking Therapist before you shoot up the entire world!

You just need this.............

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

You just need this.............

You need this

[onlyme]

You need this

Umm please look at yourself.  Vince where have you been.  We miss yo on here.  When are you competing again.  Please show us some new pics. 

[G o a t b o y]

Here are just two examples to confirm what everyone is thinking when they post your picture as "Bob - the puppet".
Picture says it all...and unfortunately is Oh so accurate...