At a Worlds I used to go to, they had a very old Cybex chest press. You would get monster isolation on this little pin stacker that it would really hit the chest to the point of pain, when you tried to overdue it. It was also good for developing triceps using a cumbered bar between the handles for a close grip that could fry anyones trys. That thing must of been 20 years old and has to be the best machine for full chest development short of the barbell. Better when bad shoulders make free weight benching impossible.