Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?

[thisiskeith12]

There are more limitations held on a bodybuilder than a player in the NFL. Bob, this hinders bodybuilding from exposure and revenue GREATLY.

[knny187]

I'm unbiased in this whole matter.

It's apparent though that Milos wants very much to be known as the good guy, but also wants his pockets lined.  The "I didn't know" routine is getting old Milos in regards to the pictures.

My advice to any aspiring Pro is be very careful which people you choose to associate with..........& Milos would be one of those.  His name is not very "respectable" & is known as an instigator/trouble maker.  His competitive career has long since passed.  Sure, he can still compete, but he'll never wow anyone anymore & his placement will be even lower than Kamali at this point.

Bob on the other hand....has proved alot of the years.  He's proved that he stuck his neck out there for a bunch of selfish no goods.  This position offers no rewards (from what I can tell).  All I see is a bunch of little boys pissing & moaning about "Bob this & Weider that" but none of these idiots come to Bob's meetings & say dumb things like "I can do it better".


One more thing....it's apparent that some of these Pro's are too stupid to either read or understand a contract before they sign.  My advice is hire a lawyer or someone that can understand/translate the contract to you before you sign.

[OneManGang]

Bob is NOT an athletes representative. He is a company representative for Weider. A true stooge who obeys the master with the money (the Weider schmoes).

[jackalope]

knny187 - who is that crawling in your avatar?  i think i saw him at a match, guy should of tapped so many times!  small world if it's the same guy

[knny187]

knny187 - who is that crawling in your avatar?  i think i saw him at a match, guy should of tapped so many times!  small world if it's the same guy

I don't know who he is....

but I heard he has been molested by his father & lives in his parents basement in Canada

[mrsirjojo]

One could argue that any given time is before a show and also after a show. And if a message is delivered after a show, isn't it going to be before another show?

The same thing used to bug me as a kid when I watched Gremlins...it's always after midnight for Christ's sake!

Melvin,

Before you vie for the position, maybe you could clarify the role of that position for us...I think a lot of the flack directed towards Bob (especially regarding people calling him a company man) has been that the title of the position and its responsibilities don't seem to jibe. Being that it's an unpaid position, it's hard to say for whom the position was created, and who is supposed to benefit from it, the BBs or the IFBB.

[thisiskeith12]

There are more limitations held on a bodybuilder than a player in the NFL. This hinders bodybuilding from exposure and revenue GREATLY.

[jackalope]

I don't know who he is....

but I heard he has been molested by his father & lives in his parents basement in Canada

  really?  he did seem a bit too much into it if you get my meaning

   poor kid, he seemed a little slow, I was wondering why they allowed him in


 sorry/
    didn't mean to hijack this thread, saw that and it freaked me out

[knny187]

  really?  he did seem a bit too much into it if you get my meaning

   poor kid, he seemed a little slow, I was wondering why they allowed him in


 sorry/
    didn't mean to hijack this thread, saw that and it freaked me out

I think he needs a friend....next time you see him....walk up & give him a hug

[stuntmovie]

Mrsirjojo, you said above "I think a lot of the flack directed towards Bob (especially regarding people calling him a company man) has been that the title of the position and its responsibilities don't seem to jibe".

And I entirely agree.

95% of the people on here and all the pros would get off Bob's back if the "athletes' rep" title was changed to "Athletes' Liason Officer".

It's more accurate and appropriate and  "ALO"  sounds better that "AR" on the letterhead.

One last statement ...... I've known Bob since just around the time he started competing on the national level and have to state that he is one hell of a great guy  but his present position and title makes him a target for lots of people. He is in the line of first defense and takes the hits so that others may proceed without sufferng the pangs of accusations.

And Bob does a hell of a good job if you look at his position as ALO in lieu of AR even though I am sure that Bob  has helped many an athlete solve various problems.

Actually he has been doing a hell of a good job keeping the fans informed too. So maybe "AFLO" would even be more appropriate.

Liason officers are appointed as Bob was appointed. In the past I've tried to get various athletes organized to "cast a vote" but that was impossible, so "appointments" are a necessity within the politics of bodybuilding.

Even now every NPC Chairman is appointed and not elected.  (Correct me if I'm wrong,)

I know the majority of the pros and cannot think of anyone who could do  a better job satisfying both sides of the equation than Chick. No one's crazy enough to want that job. It's like a human target at 25 yards.

SO change that title, Bob, and give us less ammunition to hit ya with.

[chester_bbb]

I don't know who he is....

but I heard he has been molested by his father & lives in his parents basement in Canada

Have you seen Freddy Got Fingered. His story reminds me of that movie.

[Milos_Sarcev]

1) Bob - my issue with you is simple:

YOU ARE MAKING WHATEVER CHANGES YOU WANT - WITHOUT ASKING THE ATHLETES AND GETTING MAJORITY VOTES FOR EACH AND EVERY ISSUE.
Regardless WHAT you have done - if it is GOOD or BAD - the simple truth is: ATHLETES DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT AND MANY DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU WERE REQUESTING ANY CHANGES AT ALL.

You cannot THINK for all of us - and decide what YOU THINK everyone would agree with.

YOU ARE DOING EVERYTHING BEHIND OUR BACKS!


2) As far as me being "money hungry" businessman who takes advantage of my athletes - please contact each and every one of them and find out exactly HOW MUCH MONEY they gave me...
Why don't you start with Silvio?

I don't do it for the money...and more often than not - I SPEND MONEY HELPING GUYS FOR FREE...(but as that is not good business I don't mention it...)


3) I ALWAYS HAD ONLY THE VERY BEST INTEREST FOR SILVIO - made many things possible and I was going to continue - until you and Shawn convinced him otherwise...
As he is going to see - it is NOT my loss...but his...and he made that choice.

4) Contracts ARE between that athletes and the companies but certainly you would think that between friends - it could be mutual understanding...
I never had a problem with Weider and AMI posting HUNDREDS OF PHOTOS - until Robin get involved...

If Robin CARES FOR ATHLETES and has their best interest in mind - he would act differently.

Besides - AS YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY POINT: athlete (in this case Silvio) has the right to post his own photo on his own site - doesn't he?

So, what was the difference if I posted his photo on HIS SITE instead and than on mine?
It is B.S. "formality" and all of you are trying to point out I was breaking the rule - WHEN I REALLY DIDN'T...

Robin and everyone else should have known that photo of Silvio from his hotel is absolutely NOTHING his sponsor should worry about...

Exclusivity contracts are for OTHER PUBLICATIONS and not for personal websites..

[knny187]

1) Bob - my issue with you is simple:

YOU ARE MAKING WHATEVER CHANGES YOU WANT - WITHOUT ASKING THE ATHLETES AND GETTING MAJORITY VOTES FOR EACH AND EVERY ISSUE.
Regardless WHAT you have done - if it is GOOD or BAD - the simple truth is: ATHLETES DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT AND MANY DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU WERE REQUESTING ANY CHANGES AT ALL.

You cannot THINK for all of us - and decide what YOU THINK everyone would agree with.

YOU ARE DOING EVERYTHING BEHIND OUR BACKS!

Seems like whenever Chick (or even Shawn back in the day) has tried to get the athletes together for a meeting....

very few show interest or bother to show up.

Can't get the "majority" to vote if only a partial shows up

[G o a t b o y]

Besides - AS YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY POINT: athlete (in this case Silvio) has the right to post his own photo on his own site - doesn't he?

So, what was the difference if I posted his photo on HIS SITE instead and than on mine?
It is B.S. "formality" and all of you are trying to point out I was breaking the rule - WHEN I REALLY DIDN'T...

Robin and everyone else should have known that photo of Silvio from his hotel is absolutely NOTHING his sponsor should worry about...

Exclusivity contracts are for OTHER PUBLICATIONS and not for personal websites..

Exactly.

[G o a t b o y]

Mrsirjojo, you said above "I think a lot of the flack directed towards Bob (especially regarding people calling him a company man) has been that the title of the position and its responsibilities don't seem to jibe".

And I entirely agree.

95% of the people on here and all the pros would get off Bob's back if the "athletes' rep" title was changed to "Athletes' Liason Officer".

Change the title to "IFBB/AMI Press Secretary" and it would be 100% accurate!

[BEAST 8692]

all these disgruntled ifbb pros better STFU or the 'athlete's rep' will hold the next olympia in BAGHDAD

"i, bob chick would like to move that the next olympia be held in iraq. anyone want to second that motion?"

"thankyou bob. motion carried. next item please bob?"

[Milos_Sarcev]

Seems like whenever Chick (or even Shawn back in the day) has tried to get the athletes together for a meeting....

very few show interest or bother to show up.

Can't get the "majority" to vote if only a partial shows up

You are absolutely right about that - so YOU CANNOT COUNT ON MEETINGS TO BE decision making and votes collecting events...

[BEAST 8692]

You are absolutely right about that - so YOU CANNOT COUNT ON MEETINGS TO BE decision making and votes collecting events...

Milos, just curious, has Silvio communicated with you re these recent developments?

is he going to be at your seminar?

[gordiano]

One more thing....it's apparent that some of these Pro's are too stupid to either read or understand a contract before they sign.  My advice is hire a lawyer or someone that can understand/translate the contract to you before you sign.

True dat. Problem is, they get paid peanuts, so to have to split them nuts with an attorney is not an option....

[knny187]

You are absolutely right about that - so YOU CANNOT COUNT ON MEETINGS TO BE decision making and votes collecting events...

Well, how would you suggest a collective voting process?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I really don't see what the problem is about getting votes.  Are the IFBB officials and Chic that stupid.  Honestly, what a bunch of morons.  Does the IFBB have a website.  Why not put anything up for a vote on there.  Does the IFBB send out renewals forms for their members, stick a ballot in there.  Does any of the IFBB members have email, email them a ballot.  The IFBB DOES NOT WANT THEM TO VOTE and see what they really think.  That is the reason.  There is no way in hell someone hasn't that about how to get them ballots.  The only answer is the IFBB could care less what the members think or want or they don't want to hear it.  It is that simple. 

Shuttup you phat bastard!!!

[Danny]

True dat. Problem is, they get paid peanuts, so to have to split them nuts with an attorney is not an option....

I'm sure they can afford a consultation right before signing the contract at least to have " translated" so it'be easier understood...

[hazbin]

Shuttup you phat bastard!!!

hey Onlyme, you have a fan here. according to wikipedia, phat means "cool, intelligent,attractive and admired".
sounds like someone has a crush on you, ha ha.

[trab]

I'm sure they can afford a consultation right before signing the contract at least to have " translated" so it'be easier understood...

Thing  is, It's a TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT situation. For guys who are essentially private contrators.
Some of the Olympia contract details that Lee thru out in MD brought one word to my mind - Onerous.
They were so restrictive that I dont know how any of the less than top dogs could pull a living out of the
stuff that they sell (Photos etc) to help Pay the bills.  Making a living as a pro BBer depends on self-Promotion.
Drastically restrict that, and the IFBB kill it's own golden geese. These guyS got to make a living. Some of The contract details seemed to extreme. And I doubt many of the competitors are in a position to throw cash to
high calibre contract Attys, even it it mattered. Refer back to - TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
Plenty of money is being generated by these guys popularity in many ways. How about  spreading it around.

[Milos_Sarcev]

Well, how would you suggest a collective voting process?

As hard as it seems to be - it is possible.

After all athletes all have to send money for IFBB membership - so we could have the access to each and every one of them.

Whatever athletes rep wants to suggest to all the athletes SHOULD BE...AND MUST BE presented to EVERY ATHLETE...and ONLY IF MAJORITY RESPONDS - than and only than rep could request the change...

If majority didn't respond and I am the rep - I would find the way to bombard guys who did not respond with emails, letters and phone calls UNTIL I GET necessary amount of votes...

Than I would PUBLISH names and votes and ask for change felling good about it - as I (and everyone else) will know that majority of athletes (with list of all the names) indeed asked for that change and WANTED that change..

I would like to see Bob's list - for each and every change he asked for...


As everyone knows by now - changes that occurred ALL HAPPENED as Bob decided to think for all of us...and now he keeps repeating how he did a great job...
Well, according to who?