Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?

[New Hank Wood]

Wearing of the IFBB tie?  Put it on the agenda Bob, i here you have pull within this organisation!

Vince, thankyou for raising the tie issue!  Tradition and values is what you stand for!  Bravo!

[D.L. 5]

I hope this helps

It doesn't

hahahaha that was the funniest

[Chick]

Wearing of the IFBB tie?  Put it on the agenda Bob, i here you have pull within this organisation!

Vince, thankyou for raising the tie issue!  Tradition and values is what you stand for!  Bravo!

I wouldn't have an IFBB tie...it's for IFBB officials,judges... which I am not.

As usual, Vince has no idea...

[War-Horse]

Wearing of the IFBB tie?  Put it on the agenda Bob, i here you have pull within this organisation!

Vince, thankyou for raising the tie issue!  Tradition and values is what you stand for!  Bravo!

No one wears ties anymore, you f'in dinosoaurs...

[New Hank Wood]

Keith, what are playing at?  You are moving in some very dangerous territory!

Peace.

[Scooby]

Look, Bob, I feel sorry for you. Okay, I will explain what your job as athletes rep should be. At the Colorado Pro there were at least 20 professional bodybuilders there. That would have been a good opportunity to canvass opinions and that sort of thing. You know, actually talk to the pros and see if there are issues or things they want to change.

Then you could have assisted Armin and others who could have had a better experience.

When you ask what you should have done for the athletes you are oblivious. How can you assist any of them or be there for them if you and Dan have to do the broadcast?

Apparently "Concierge" in Candian is "REP"... Bob you should have apparently been there to wait on each competitors every need.  Oh wait Concierge is already a french word... they must just have similar meanings I guess.

I always thought that the promoter had a staff of handlers for the Pros.  And last time I checked Bob talks to damn near every pro every chance he gets, at shows, lunch, dinner, the gym, etc.

Here in the States a "Rep" is seen as someone who is a conduit between two parties... and that person actually has to be able to see both sides of a situtation, not just the side he represents.  Thats how 2 opposing sides find a middle ground, and Bob has introduced more change in the past year than there has been in YEARS.  Is there more changes needed... certainly.

[Scooby]

I wouldn't have an IFBB tie...it's for IFBB officials,judges... which I am not.

As usual, Vince has no idea...

Bob can't you get Vince an IFBB tie since he is so hung up on them... maybe he will ummm use it and you know.

[Chick]

Bob can't you get Vince an IFBB tie since he is so hung up on them... maybe he will ummm use it and you know.

All he'll do is add some thread change the angle of it to one thats been around since the 50's, and claim to have invented it....

[G o a t b o y]

No one wears ties anymore, you f'in dinosoaurs...

Actually, in business people do.  But I wouldn't expect the clock-punchers around here to get that.

[Condor]

Actually, in business people do.  But I wouldn't expect the clock-punchers around here to get that.

Yes, educate the masses!

I'm fortunate I landed a job where I can get away with business casual.

[Vince B]

Bob, Ben and Joe hailed from Montreal. They put their life's work into this sport. Ben tried his best to get some respect shown towards officials at bodybuilding contests and, thus, the requirement of judges and officials to wear appropriate blazers and tie when representing the IFBB.

Those protocols and decorum should be respected and maintained by all officials when they are at contests performing official duties. If you don't like to wear a tie but are the only such person then you can't represent that person because of rule 22 of the official pro rep's rules. Rule 22 states that you cannot act on behalf of just one person. At least be consistent and not rewrite the code of conduct pages.

I wonder if Bob's cavalier attitude is sufficiently respectful of Joe and Ben? Gosh, Bob, you seem like a nice bloke. Just out of respect for Ben you should wear that tie.  Anything less would be disappointing for the IFBB's favourite son.

[omg]

Bob, Ben and Joe hailed from Montreal. They put their life's work into this sport. Ben tried his best to get some respect shown towards officials at bodybuilding contests and, thus, the requirement of judges and officials to wear appropriate blazers and tie when representing the IFBB.

Those protocols and decorum should be respected and maintained by all officials when they are at contests performing official duties. If you don't like to wear a tie but are the only such person then you can't represent that person because of rule 22 of the official pro rep's rules. Rule 22 states that you cannot act on behalf of just one person. At least be consistent and not rewrite the code of conduct pages.

I wonder if Bob's cavalier attitude is sufficiently respectful of Joe and Ben? Gosh, Bob, you seem like a nice bloke. Just out of respect for Ben you should wear that tie.  Anything less would be disappointing for the IFBB's favourite son.

why does someone have to wear a tie to host a show? what are u, a fashion nazi?
haha u are old deluded self important fat old man..end of story

[flexnfemme]

How sad to read this lonnnggg thread and hear all the nuts coming out of the woodwork!!! IFBB athletes are "lazy"  Notl likely.  How about maybe don't give a flying one since their own sport doesn't give them a vote in anything that concerns them, nor pays more than a handful of them?  How much would you care for your company if they treated you that way?  IFBB pros can't exactly go applying to a whole lot of other places can they?  Meetings??  Who ever heard of them??  Most IFBB athletes I know of don't even go on these boards, they're earning a living, compete for their own thrill and personal competition.   Union??  Wouldn't someone have to pay them a decent wage in the first place to collect THOSE dues?  Someone posted that the IFBB had their athletes addresses to collect the yearly IFBB dues, absolutely true, the only letter that was sent was one saying the new judging guidelines would not tolerate growth guts, synthol, etc....gee we all know how they adhered to THOSE rules...

Curious how with all the availablilty of online services, not even the athletes rep thought of having a "Pro Only" invite chat with the IFBB at the same international time so everyone could at least be informed at the same time, maybe have a voice???  All this childish whining about what so and so does or does not do is so unproductive.  

I'd of fired at least one person.  Immediately.  Gee, why not have one of those kiddie like online polls to guess who??

[Chick]

How sad to read this lonnnggg thread and hear all the nuts coming out of the woodwork!!! IFBB athletes are "lazy"  Notl likely.  How about maybe don't give a flying one since their own sport doesn't give them a vote in anything that concerns them, nor pays more than a handful of them?  How much would you care for your company if they treated you that way?  IFBB pros can't exactly go applying to a whole lot of other places can they?  Meetings??  Who ever heard of them??  Most IFBB athletes I know of don't even go on these boards, they're earning a living, compete for their own thrill and personal competition.   Union??  Wouldn't someone have to pay them a decent wage in the first place to collect THOSE dues?  Someone posted that the IFBB had their athletes addresses to collect the yearly IFBB dues, absolutely true, the only letter that was sent was one saying the new judging guidelines would not tolerate growth guts, synthol, etc....gee we all know how they adhered to THOSE rules...

Curious how with all the availablilty of online services, not even the athletes rep thought of having a "Pro Only" invite chat with the IFBB at the same international time so everyone could at least be informed at the same time, maybe have a voice???  All this childish whining about what so and so does or does not do is so unproductive.  

I'd of fired at least one person.  Immediately.  Gee, why not have one of those kiddie like online polls to guess who??

It's been thought of...and It's being put into place.

[BEAST 8692]

How sad to read this lonnnggg thread and hear all the nuts coming out of the woodwork!!! IFBB athletes are "lazy"  Notl likely.  How about maybe don't give a flying one since their own sport doesn't give them a vote in anything that concerns them, nor pays more than a handful of them?  How much would you care for your company if they treated you that way?  IFBB pros can't exactly go applying to a whole lot of other places can they?  Meetings??  Who ever heard of them??  Most IFBB athletes I know of don't even go on these boards, they're earning a living, compete for their own thrill and personal competition.   Union??  Wouldn't someone have to pay them a decent wage in the first place to collect THOSE dues?  Someone posted that the IFBB had their athletes addresses to collect the yearly IFBB dues, absolutely true, the only letter that was sent was one saying the new judging guidelines would not tolerate growth guts, synthol, etc....gee we all know how they adhered to THOSE rules...

Curious how with all the availablilty of online services, not even the athletes rep thought of having a "Pro Only" invite chat with the IFBB at the same international time so everyone could at least be informed at the same time, maybe have a voice???  All this childish whining about what so and so does or does not do is so unproductive.  

I'd of fired at least one person.  Immediately.  Gee, why not have one of those kiddie like online polls to guess who??

well that's simple.

if they didn't give a 'flying one...' then they wouldn't be complaining now would they?

however, it appears that there has been the odd complaint so...if you bitch about how things are done and don't bother even attempting to attend meetings to create changes then, i'm sorry, but that means you are a LAZY FUCK!

hope this helps.

[knny187]

Word has it....that Joe & Ben left Canada because they didn't want to be associated in anyway to Vince

[dearth]

www.ifbb.com

click on "constitution"

Have fun.

Bob I AM having fun, beleive me. Your endless supply of inaccuracies is most entertaining.

The constitution states "This constitution governs only amateur sport"
right below it. Does this now also apply to the pros because you said so?

Bob could you tell us exactly where the in the rulebook the IFBB distinguishes between rules followed (i.e. Lee's suspention) and rules not followed (unethical use of perfomance enhancing drugs).

[BEAST 8692]

Bob I AM having fun, beleive me. Your endless supply of inaccuracies is most entertaining.

The constitution states "This constitution governs only amateur sport"
right below it. Does this now also apply to the pros because you said so?

Bob could you tell us exactly where the in the rulebook the IFBB distinguishes between rules followed (i.e. Lee's suspention) and rules not followed (unethical use of perfomance enhancing drugs).

lol

here i'll reply for Chick:

THE FUCKING IFBB WILL DO WHATEVER THE FUCK IT WANTS TO IT'S ATHLETES AT ANY TIME IT SO FEELS.

IF YOU DON'T FUCKING WELL LIKE IT THEN FUCK OFF.

thankyou,

Bob Chick
Athletes Rep
IFBB

[Chick]

Bob I AM having fun, beleive me. Your endless supply of inaccuracies is most entertaining.



Nothing I have stated is innaccurate


The constitution states "This constitution governs only amateur sport"
right below it. Does this now also apply to the pros because you said so?

No, the Code of Ethics are for all, as the "IFBB Pro league" is a part of the IFBB....they are listed right under the constitution...look it up meathead...

Bob could you tell us exactly where the in the rulebook the IFBB distinguishes between rules followed (i.e. Lee's suspention) and rules not followed (unethical use of perfomance enhancing drugs).

The rules are followed..show me where they arent. The rules state quite clearly, the IFBB reserves the right to drug test, and anyone found in violation may be subject to fines/ suspention.

IF they test, and IF someone fails, then they are subject to the rules.....ask Shawn if they've ever enforced it.

All you're doing is showing your ignorance and lack of comprehension skills...keep going fool.

[Scooby]

THE FUCKING IFBB WILL DO WHATEVER THE FUCK IT WANTS TO IT'S ATHLETES AT ANY TIME IT SO FEELS.

The way rules are enforced are the same as they ALWAYS have been.  Nothing is new.  Someone who considers themselves a bodybuilding historian could easily list... penalties, suspensions, fines, deaths & causes, failed drug tests, etc.  History is bound to repeat itself when people are delusional, incoherent, not paying attention, don't care, or FORGET.

Bob your historical knowledge on the sport is well documented... give some examples of past penalties & infractions, don't just hint about them (there are people here who may be too young to remember things).

[Chick]

The way rules are enforced are the same as they ALWAYS have been.  Nothing is new.  Someone who considers themselves a bodybuilding historian could easily list... penalties, suspensions, fines, deaths & causes, failed drug tests, etc.  History is bound to repeat itself when people are delusional, incoherent, not paying attention, don't care, or FORGET.

Bob your historical knowledge on the sport is well documented... give some examples of past penalties & infractions, don't just hint about them (there are people here who may be too young to remember things).

Shawn Ray-ASC
Nasser- ASC
All the WBF guys were suspended indefinately
Levrone, Priest- fined for various infractions of C.O.C., missed meetings, etc.

There are a whole bunch...I'd have to look some up.

Bottom line is, they have been consistant.

[hazbin]

All he'll do is add some thread change the angle of it to one thats been around since the 50's, and claim to have invented it....

sorry Vince, but that was pretty f@#&in funny!!!

[dearth]

Bob I AM having fun, beleive me. Your endless supply of inaccuracies is most entertaining.



Nothing I have stated is innaccurate

"the IFBB does not selectively enforce its rules."
"no wait, the IFBB can enforce whatever rules it chooses"

Well Chick, you can't have it both ways. Sorry to say that you have been extremely inaccurate, not to mention misleading.

The constitution states "This constitution governs only amateur sport"
right below it. Does this now also apply to the pros because you said so?

No, the Code of Ethics are for all, as the "IFBB Pro league" is a part of the IFBB....they are listed right under the constitution...look it up meathead...

No need to get upset, I simply followed your directions and made it quite apparent that your argument has no backing.
You first talked about a code of conduct which doesn't exist or at least you can't seem to tell me where it exists
Then you talked about a constitution which, according to the website, only applies to amateurs
and now you are telling me about how the code of ethics allows certain rules in the rule book to broken, and others to be enforced at all times?

Bob could you tell us exactly where the in the rulebook the IFBB distinguishes between rules followed (i.e. Lee's suspention) and rules not followed (unethical use of perfomance enhancing drugs).

Still waiting for the answer on this one

The rules are followed..show me where they arent.

Section 8
Rule 8.1

please explain what the IFBB is doing to enforce this rule.

The rules state quite clearly, the IFBB reserves the right to drug test, and anyone found in violation may be subject to fines/ suspention.

IF they test, and IF someone fails, then they are subject to the rules.....ask Shawn if they've ever enforced it.






All you're doing is showing your ignorance and lack of comprehension skills...keep going fool.

All your doing is showing us how much of a joke the IFBBs rule book is, while providing comic value with your weak arguments

[flexnfemme]

Wouldn't it be great if a nice big "rule book" existed, which wasn't in a constitution verbage, but very simple for all to understand, and were adhered to by even the judges??  Bodybuilding seems to have lost a good deal of its excitement, since the same guys seem to place similarly, no physique changes, but the same crap trudges on. 

I still don't think the athletes are LAZY, but so many have put their stones on the line and spoken what they felt like Lee Priest, I still don't see any changes, therefore I'm sure they don't see why they should either.  There's like 5 guys making an actual living by professional bodybuilding seemily by the "old boy network" surely they won't rock their own boat.  The others don't "give a flying one" because nothing they do matters.  I don't see any of them complaining here anyway, it wouldn't do them any good, here or anywher else.  I just don't see any way for any of them to make a difference....step up put your stones on the line, get them chopped off, next!!!!

[Chick]

Bob I AM having fun, beleive me. Your endless supply of inaccuracies is most entertaining.



Nothing I have stated is innaccurate

"the IFBB does not selectively enforce its rules."
"no wait, the IFBB can enforce whatever rules it chooses"


The rules are the rules...if they are broken , the individual case is looked at and a decision is rendered...no different than the court of law...you still have yet to show me where the rules have been selectively enforced, as you are claiming.

Well Chick, you can't have it both ways. Sorry to say that you have been extremely inaccurate, not to mention misleading.

I've been neither...you just don't understand what is written...not my problem.

The constitution states "This constitution governs only amateur sport"
right below it. Does this now also apply to the pros because you said so?

No, the Code of Ethics are for all, as the "IFBB Pro league" is a part of the IFBB....they are listed right under the constitution...look it up meathead...

No need to get upset, I simply followed your directions and made it quite apparent that your argument has no backing.
You first talked about a code of conduct which doesn't exist or at least you can't seem to tell me where it exists

I told you exactly where it is...you cant see....CODE OF ETHICS


Then you talked about a constitution which, according to the website, only applies to amateurs
and now you are telling me about how the code of ethics allows certain rules in the rule book to broken, and others to be enforced at all times?

Once again, you cant seem to comprehend...they are TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES.

Bob could you tell us exactly where the in the rulebook the IFBB distinguishes between rules followed (i.e. Lee's suspention) and rules not followed (unethical use of perfomance enhancing drugs).

Still waiting for the answer on this one

Still the same answer...
The rules are followed..show me where they arent.


Section 8
Rule 8.1

please explain what the IFBB is doing to enforce this rule.

That onus is up to the IFBB...not me, and certainly not the athletes...if they wish to test...thats their right...if they dont...they don't.

The rules state quite clearly, the IFBB reserves the right to drug test, and anyone found in violation may be subject to fines/ suspention.

IF they test, and IF someone fails, then they are subject to the rules.....ask Shawn if they've ever enforced it.






All you're doing is showing your ignorance and lack of comprehension skills...keep going fool.

All your doing is showing us how much of a joke the IFBBs rule book is, while providing comic value with your weak arguments
 

Your knowledge of law and how to interperet it, are grade school level at best...stick to posting bullshit.