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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2007, 08:57:00 PM »
Lifting weights isn't brain surgery.

There isn't much to teach.  None of these guys should use trainers.  They're idiots.
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2007, 12:36:30 AM »
Charles Glass is ABSOLUTELY GREAT TRAINER...and I had a pleasure being trained by Charles many years ago...
I have nothing but RESPECT and LOVE for Charles and I think he puts his heart and soul into each athlete (or client) he trains...

Silvio is ABSOLUTELY GREAT BODYBUILDER...and I had a pleasure training him and assisting him in many aspects of his preparation...
He made INCREDIBLE changes in very short time while training with me...and I hope he continues with the same pace...

I wish both of them nothing but GREAT SUCCESS and LUCK in upcoming shows...
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2007, 01:12:53 AM »
I still don't understand how ANYONE just stabs someone (who's been good to them) in the back........


But, it's refreshing to see your good attitude about it Milos, regardless of how it went down.
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2007, 02:19:01 AM »
Quote from: Stavios on May 21, 2007, 05:41:37 PM
JOJ hasn't brought up any weak part working with "Glass"

nobody made huge improvements using him

I think he is over-rated

IMO Milos has done better with his bbers, ie: Hide, Silvio up to now, flex lewis, Armin, Luke Wood etc.. They have all see big improvements since working with Milos
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2007, 02:20:03 AM »
Well as someone who trains at Gold's Venice on a regular basis, (and someone that has witnessed many of the workouts that Glass has supervised), I can say in all honesty that I have never witnessed anyone training under his tutulage using any kind of intensity, or putting forth any real effort.

In other words I feel that Glass is a gorified babysitter, and enables his clients to be lazy.

I have no doubt that he is quite knowledgeable...and if he wanted to push someone he could, but I have yet to see it. I get the impression that he is comfortable just having people go thru the motions. If people are paying you to just dick around, then I suppose it is easy to take their money.

On the flip side...I have witnessed workouts with Milos and Silvio, (in fact I was at Kolloseum about 2 1/2 weeks ago before their falling out), and milos was pushing him hard. It was even more impressive to see Milos hang in there set for set, rep for rep. Milos...like him or not...never dogs it, and If I had to pick between the two...would defintaly procure the services of his over glass....

Just my 2Cents...

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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2007, 02:33:51 AM »
Quote from: Topskin69 on May 22, 2007, 02:20:03 AM
Well as someone who trains at Gold's Venice on a regular basis, (and someone that has witnessed many of the workouts that Glass has supervised), I can say in all honesty that I have never witnessed anyone training under his tutulage using any kind of intensity, or putting forth any real effort.

In other words I feel that Glass is a gorified babysitter, and enables his clients to be lazy.

I have no doubt that he is quite knowledgeable...and if he wanted to push someone he could, but I have yet to see it. I get the impression that he is comfortable just having people go thru the motions. If people are paying you to just dick around, then I suppose it is easy to take their money.

On the flip side...I have witnessed workouts with Milos and Silvio, (in fact I was at Kolloseum about 2 1/2 weeks ago before their falling out), and milos was pushing him hard. It was even more impressive to see Milos hang in there set for set, rep for rep. Milos...like him or not...never dogs it, and If I had to pick between the two...would defintaly procure the services of his over glass....

Just my 2Cents...

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Voltarie

Good post!, iv seen Glass training Chris Comier at venice golds, and Gunter, he was just watching chris/gunter go through the motions.  I think Glass was more into when he use to train Flex wheeler back in the early 90's. Even in the video's you can see him training set for set with flex, kinda like milos does now with his bbers.. Mabye his age is slowing him down? how old is Glass? Anyways they are both great trainers..
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2007, 02:40:13 AM »
Hah, that was an ugly newspaper scum style headline, 240
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2007, 04:57:25 AM »
Quote from: rocket on May 22, 2007, 02:40:13 AM
Hah, that was an ugly newspaper scum style headline, 240

I was hoping someone here would appreciate it :)
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2007, 11:03:22 AM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on May 22, 2007, 04:57:25 AM
I was hoping someone here would appreciate it :)


Haha  that was good.   I need to pay attention.
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2007, 11:16:59 AM »
I just remember seeing BFTO 03 where his assistant is training Dennis James. just seems fishy to me...
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2007, 05:40:51 PM »
Quote from: Topskin69 on May 22, 2007, 02:20:03 AM
Well as someone who trains at Gold's Venice on a regular basis, (and someone that has witnessed many of the workouts that Glass has supervised), I can say in all honesty that I have never witnessed anyone training under his tutulage using any kind of intensity, or putting forth any real effort.

In other words I feel that Glass is a gorified babysitter, and enables his clients to be lazy.

I have no doubt that he is quite knowledgeable...and if he wanted to push someone he could, but I have yet to see it. I get the impression that he is comfortable just having people go thru the motions. If people are paying you to just dick around, then I suppose it is easy to take their money.

On the flip side...I have witnessed workouts with Milos and Silvio, (in fact I was at Kolloseum about 2 1/2 weeks ago before their falling out), and milos was pushing him hard. It was even more impressive to see Milos hang in there set for set, rep for rep. Milos...like him or not...never dogs it, and If I had to pick between the two...would defintaly procure the services of his over glass....

Just my 2Cents...

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Voltarie

I saw a video of some amature getting trained by Glass on leg day it was nothing but intense, the fucker couldn't even stand afterwards.
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2007, 05:44:30 PM »
Some athletes need to train SMARTER, Not HARDER...thats the point of using someone like Milos or Charles, to learn how to maximize their training to their specific needs...not just throw heavier weights around for the sake of doing it.
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2007, 05:46:50 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 22, 2007, 05:44:30 PM
Some athletes need to train SMARTER, Not HARDER...thats the point of using someone like Milos or Charles, to learn how to maximize their training to their specific needs...not just throw heavier weights around for the sake of doing it.

Who do you think is the better trainer Chick?
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2007, 05:51:28 PM »
Quote from: Hunter86 on May 22, 2007, 05:46:50 PM
Who do you think is the better trainer Chick?

Threre is no way to say who is the better trainer, as both have proven track records...the best trainer is the one that can show you something new, make your training more effecient, and keep your progress from stagnating...both seem to be excellent at all three.

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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2007, 05:58:38 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 22, 2007, 05:51:28 PM
Threre is no way to say who is the better trainer, as both have proven track records...the best trainer is the one that can show you something new, make your training more effecient, and keep your progress from stagnating...both seem to be excellent at all three.



Do think Milos has a good understaning about signed contracts
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2007, 06:13:58 PM »
just wanted to tell you 240...the 'headline' of this thread is very clever

"silvio 'cuts' milos for glass"

awesome stuff!
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2007, 06:17:47 PM »
Glass did take Jenny Lyn to an Olympia victory, so if Silvo is looking to improve his glute/ham tie in then he's made the right choice  ::)
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2007, 06:18:31 PM »
Quote from: YoungBlood on May 21, 2007, 06:34:00 PM
Trained Gunter for the 04 Olympia, in which Gunter went from 13th or some long shot place- to 5th, and people had him winning the contest. It was the same year that Gunter beat Ronnie at the GNC Show of Strength.
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2007, 06:25:21 PM »
I realized that this morning.....surprised nobody jumped on it earlier.
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2007, 06:53:09 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 22, 2007, 05:44:30 PM
Some athletes need to train SMARTER, Not HARDER...thats the point of using someone like Milos or Charles, to learn how to maximize their training to their specific needs...not just throw heavier weights around for the sake of doing it.

Sadly this advice will never be taken by most simply because of ego. Some of you guys come on here and poke fun at Bob for using machines and make fun of Vince Taylor for trining with light weights, but these guys know how to stimulate muscle growth. Comes a point in your career that you just can't train any heavier so you have to learn how to train with just as much intensity, but with lighter weights.
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2007, 10:04:35 PM »
Quote from: Disgusted on May 22, 2007, 06:53:09 PM
Sadly this advice will never be taken by most simply because of ego. Some of you guys come on here and poke fun at Bob for using machines and make fun of Vince Taylor for trining with light weights, but these guys know how to stimulate muscle growth. Comes a point in your career that you just can't train any heavier so you have to learn how to train with just as much intensity, but with lighter weights.

I could be mistaken but isn't there video evidence of you client squatting 600 plus pounds on a smith machine with 12 spotters?
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2007, 10:08:19 PM »
Quote from: Hunter86 on May 22, 2007, 10:04:35 PM
I could be mistaken but isn't there video evidence of you client squatting 600 plus pounds on a smith machine with 12 spotters?
hahhaa

are you suggesting Disgusted hasn't watched one of the greatest bodybuilding dvd's ever created: "king of pain"?
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2007, 10:11:08 PM »
Both Milos and Charles are great trainers, considered the best out here in Southern California by many. Charles has trained a great many competitors, including Gunter and Cormier, and is extremely busy, while Milos has trained a lot of people to including, the three top five competitors in the NY Pro, Dennis James, Dennis Wolf, Silvio Samuel.  And don't forget the improvements he made to Hidetada for the Ironman, stunning many.

When we ate dinner with Silvio, Silvio, although he has now left Milos, said to be that he is always grateful and respects Milos for the tremendous advances and training that he brought him. With each new person, you learn a little more.

And Chick is right - many competitors have told me that too much weight does not sculpt a body. These are bodybuilders, not powerlifters.
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2007, 10:13:54 PM »
Quote from: Hunter86 on May 22, 2007, 10:04:35 PM
I could be mistaken but isn't there video evidence of you client squatting 600 plus pounds on a smith machine with 12 spotters?

You are correct ;D
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Re: Silvio cuts Milos; new weapon of choice is Glass
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2007, 10:16:15 PM »
Quote from: Ron on May 22, 2007, 10:11:08 PM
Both Milos and Charles are great trainers, considered the best out here in Southern California by many. Charles has trained a great many competitors, including Gunter and Cormier, and is extremely busy, while Milos has trained a lot of people to including, the three top five competitors in the NY Pro, Dennis James, Dennis Wolf, Silvio Samuel.  And don't forget the improvements he made to Hidetada for the Ironman, stunning many.

When we ate dinner with Silvio, Silvio, although he has now left Milos, said to be that he is always grateful and respects Milos for the tremendous advances and training that he brought him. With each new person, you learn a little more.

And Chick is right - many competitors have told me that too much weight does not sculpt a body. These are bodybuilders, not powerlifters.


would you say that Silvio is grateful of Milos posting pictures of him on the internet in hopes to give him greater exposure to the bodybuilding community?
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