Author Topic: Can McCain win after this immigration deal? (Read 4484 times)

militarymuscle69 · « **on:** May 23, 2007, 05:42:59 AM »

He co-authored with Kennedy. I hope all you people wake up and relaize that McCain is a Dem in GOP clothing.

Cap · « **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:31:35 PM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on May 23, 2007, 05:42:59 AM

He co-authored with Kennedy. I hope all you people wake up and relaize that McCain is a Dem in GOP clothing.

Rudy is more popular anyway. McCain and Kyl are getting hell from AZ for this.

Laughing Sam's Dice · « **Reply #2 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:38:48 PM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on May 23, 2007, 05:42:59 AM

McCain is a Dem in GOP clothing.

Just because he doesn't want you torturing people doesn't make him a democrat.

Cap · « **Reply #3 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:42:07 PM »

Quote from: Laughing Sam's Dice on May 23, 2007, 01:38:48 PM

Just because he doesn't want you torturing people doesn't make him a democrat.

People act like Gitmo or any other prison is new news. It isn't. What's different now is that dumbass Army Specialists are taking pics with camera phones, etc. That stuff never would have been allowed before.

Laughing Sam's Dice · « **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:44:55 PM »

Quote from: cap86 on May 23, 2007, 01:42:07 PM

People act like Gitmo or any other prison is new news. It isn't. What's different now is that dumbass Army Specialists are taking pics with camera phones, etc. That stuff never would have been allowed before.

That's how Rumsfeld wanted to handle the situation- hide the fact that U.S. soldiers and "contractors" are torturers.

militarymuscle69 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:45:46 PM »

Quote from: Laughing Sam's Dice on May 23, 2007, 01:38:48 PM

Just because he doesn't want you torturing people doesn't make him a democrat.

Torture, HA...looks like another pussy has joined while I was gone

Laughing Sam's Dice · « **Reply #6 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:48:04 PM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on May 23, 2007, 01:45:46 PM

Torture, HA...looks like another pussy has joined while I was gone

Let's see, anti-torture = "pussy"
so pro-torture must = "he-man freedom fighter"

You must be a republican.

OzmO · « **Reply #7 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:49:04 PM »

McCain is a jackass. Probably from the same family of jackasses Bush and Company are from.

He'll shot himself int he foot before he even gets going.

Cap · « **Reply #8 on:** May 23, 2007, 01:57:43 PM »

I really like Rudy for a number or reasons. McCain supporting this bill really took my support away from him. He will lose Repub votes, esp in AZ, gain nothing really from a community who can't/won't vote.

As for torture, to blame Bush or anyone else is naive. This has been a long practice since the CIA was the OSS. It is a part of war/conflict. Abu Gahrib was only an issue b/c of cameras.

militarymuscle69 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:02:32 PM »

Quote from: Laughing Sam's Dice on May 23, 2007, 01:48:04 PM

Let's see, anti-torture = "pussy"
so pro-torture must = "he-man freedom fighter"

You must be a republican.

Sorry dude, the Gitmo detainees didn't get enough soccer per day for your liking? Maybe all the prayer time they were given wasn't quite enough. I mean interrupting interrogations so that they could observe prayer had to have been hell on them. How about when we turned all the toilets so that their backs wouldn't be facing allah while shitting. Them fools had it 3 times as good at Gitmo then they ever had it in Iraq/Syria/Iran or whatever stan they come from. Waterboarding isn't torture. That is why you are a pussy

Laughing Sam's Dice · « **Reply #10 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:14:14 PM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on May 23, 2007, 02:02:32 PM

Them fools had it 3 times as good at Gitmo then they ever had it in Iraq/Syria/Iran or whatever stan they come from. Waterboarding isn't torture. That is why you are a pussy

So you support the torture, killing, and humiliation that American soldiers and contractors do?

Just because Cheney says waterboarding isn't torture, doesn't mean it isn't (in fact if Cheney supports it, we should assume it is torture!) If waterboarding isn't torture, I guess you wouldn't mind it happening to you.
Here's some vids:

From Fox News:

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Instructions:

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John McCain:

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militarymuscle69 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:19:05 PM »

Quote from: Laughing Sam's Dice on May 23, 2007, 02:14:14 PM

So you support the torture, killing, and humiliation that American soldiers and contractors do?

Just because Cheney says waterboarding isn't torture, doesn't mean it isn't (in fact if Cheney supports it, we should assume it is torture!) If waterboarding isn't torture, I guess you wouldn't mind it happening to you.
Here's some vids:

From Fox News:
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Instructions:
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John McCain:
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I don't need the vids, I watched a reporter try it. Uncomfortable? yes, but if it doesn't leave permanent physical or mental scars..it isn't torture. Now don't try and slip in humiliation (abu ghraib) and rape on me because those soldiers deserve the harshest thing coming to them and most of them got it. But waterboarding isn't torture...pussy

Laughing Sam's Dice · « **Reply #12 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:23:47 PM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on May 23, 2007, 02:19:05 PM

waterboarding isn't torture...pussy

Creating the terror of forced drowning isn't torture? Let's try it on your mother and see what she thinks. If she thinks its torture you can call her a pussy.

militarymuscle69 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:25:40 PM »

Quote from: Laughing Sam's Dice on May 23, 2007, 02:23:47 PM

Creating the terror of forced drowning isn't torture? Let's try it on your mother and see what she thinks. If she thinks its torture you can call her a pussy.

if it doesn't leave permanent physical or mental scars..it isn't torture.......puss

militarymuscle69 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:27:38 PM »

Quote from: Laughing Sam's Dice on May 23, 2007, 02:23:47 PM

Creating the terror of forced drowning isn't torture? Let's try it on your mother and see what she thinks. If she thinks its torture you can call her a pussy.

oh and my mother is a pussy (do I need to explain where babies come from?) So I would expect her to call it torture.

You are the kind of guy that lays on the beach with his boyfriend complaining that the salt water is torture for chapping your skin, and then ask him for some Tijuana toothpaste (google it)

Laughing Sam's Dice · « **Reply #15 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:28:33 PM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on May 23, 2007, 02:25:40 PM

if it doesn't leave permanent physical or mental scars..it isn't torture.......puss

You don't think that its a psychologically traumatic experience that stays with the person? Again, try it on your mom and see how she reacts.

Laughing Sam's Dice · « **Reply #16 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:30:58 PM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on May 23, 2007, 02:27:38 PM

oh and my mother is a pussy

Tijuana toothpaste (google it)

Love that respect for your mother!

I Googled "Tijuana toothpaste"
Apparently, its commonly used in the military.

militarymuscle69 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:32:32 PM »

Quote from: Laughing Sam's Dice on May 23, 2007, 02:28:33 PM

You don't think that its a psychologically traumatic experience that stays with the person? Again, try it on your mom and see how she reacts.

Oh jesus, you are one of those guys that would let a murderer off because he saw a squirrel get killed when he was a kid. Poor fucking babies, they get caught in a war and get waterboarded. Fuck em, what do you think they are doing to our boys? If our boys didn't want to be detainees they should have stayed out of the military.

I love my mom but science will tell you she has a puss, therefore....yada yada yada...great original comeback with the toothpaste thing... HIGH FIVE

Laughing Sam's Dice · « **Reply #18 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:36:06 PM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on May 23, 2007, 02:32:32 PM

If our boys didn't want to be detainees they should have stayed out of the military.

I agree with you here. Anyone dumb enough to join the military in the last 4 years deserves whatever he gets in Iraq. Death, mutilation, the dumb bastard shouldn't have strapped on a gun and invaded another man's country.

240 is Back · « **Reply #19 on:** May 23, 2007, 03:35:07 PM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on May 23, 2007, 01:45:46 PM

Torture, HA...looks like another pussy has joined while I was gone

you're making my country look bad, dude.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #20 on:** May 23, 2007, 04:43:56 PM »

The prisoners at Gitmo are kept in cells with air condition, at cold temperatures, without blankets, and with lights on in the cells 24/7.

That's not worthy of the greatest nation in the world.

-Hedge

GroinkTropin · « **Reply #21 on:** May 23, 2007, 05:59:04 PM »

Quote from: Laughing Sam's Dice on May 23, 2007, 01:48:04 PM

Let's see, anti-torture = "pussy"
so pro-torture must = "he-man freedom fighter"

You must be a republican.

You must be a liberal idiot who is not concerned for his own safety.

egj13 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 23, 2007, 07:09:11 PM »

How did you guys turn this from immigration to Gitmo?

militarymuscle69 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 24, 2007, 05:10:32 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on May 23, 2007, 03:35:07 PM

you're making my country look bad, dude.

How am I making "your" country look bad? We haven't tortured people. Besides I have more claim to this country than you...I'm sure you haven't forgotten that position in which I believe

240 is Back · « **Reply #24 on:** May 24, 2007, 06:03:34 AM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on May 24, 2007, 05:10:32 AM

We haven't tortured people.

Did ya completely miss the pics from Abu Ghirab?

Did you not see the strangulation report from Gitmo?

Did you not know agents were getting personal insurance to protect their assets when ordered to apply batteries to genitals?

Did you miss the ABC report where they interviewed two interrogators and they talked about how KSM lasted 2 minutes of waterboarding before cracking?

DO you own a tv?