Life after juicing.

[realkarateblackbelt]

'realkarateblackbelt' doesn't scream wannabe loser to you?

sorry, should have checked his user name, ricosauve. whatever that means.

i'm not dissing your opinion rkbb and maybe rico does look crap for a juicer. i'm not an expert on the subject so i can't give an opinion on that, but to say that most naturals look better/same is just plain stupid.

so that means you're either disingenuous or stupid. which one is it?

I don't think you're in the position to be judging anyone's intelligence "beast."

"Ricosuave" (LMAO!) is good motivator NOT to juice. 

[BEAST 8692]

"Some opinions are better formulated than others!"

lol

maybe you should follow the advice of your own poster text and stfu now.

[realkarateblackbelt]

"Some opinions are better formulated than others!"

lol

maybe you should follow the advice of your own poster text and stfu now.

I can tell my opinions rang true by your hyperemotional responses. Do you have an emotional investment in "ricosuave?" Is this your boyfriend? I'm serious.

[badlad]

As one of those who is probably very lazy coming off the gear never led to any problems. And my reasons for using gear - quite simply I 'enjoyed using it' - felt great, got strong really fast, helped me heal with injuries. I have never competed either - not really my thing.
I did fairly short and very  moderate cycles (in my opinion very moderate) over the years. I should say that i trained naturally for at least 6 years before taking anything - even supplements. Bodyweight before I began training - 190 - after 5 years of natural training approx 260, biggest ever with gear just over 300. Nowadays - after almost 3 years completely off training and 5 yrs plus since I last took gear I'm sitting at about 255. Now I'm just getting back into bodybuilding again in my mid thirties - enjoying the challenge - it is hard for us old farts. Noticing the old cardio endurance is really struggling due to giving up fairly manual work and now I'm a weekday desk jockey. I will probably never touch gear again as right now after about 8 weeks back in the gym (very hit and miss right now but getting better) I'm getting really great pumps and growing fairly quickly. Have a few nagging old scars that are flaring up but my weights are so lame right now things should all come together in time.
But back to the topic...I gave up gear and training at about the same time because I went on an extended 2 year travel binge all over the world and then when I came back, settled in a new country, got married etc etc your life changes. Other things took the stage for me. Will I ever take gear again - possibly if I think it would make my life better for it. Again i would stress it would be very moderate use and yes...I made pretty spectacular gains off taking very small amounts from day 1 and very incremetally upping things as I saw fit. Worked for me and made my cycles very inexpensive and uncomplicated. Can't understand these young dudes today who use clomid and all these other chemicals along with the extreme dosages - silly in my opinion. But to each their own I guess.

[realkarateblackbelt]

I would say you are an exception to the rule if you trained hard for 6 years as a natural. I'm talking about  the young guys with shit for brains that start juicing after 1 year of half-ass training, only to look like a bloated sack of shit.

[BEAST 8692]

Is this dude on the juice? Probably had some with his meal.

absolutely

all juice

[tleilaxutank]

From what I've seen through friends the last thing you should be worried about is losing size...


I've met several people in college, at the gym and on the internet that have had SEVERE depression issues from going clean...things that would upset you normally will seem like the end of the world...


best of luck

[Drogon]

Actually, I think that extended juicing has made me more anxious. Test makes me anxious and think very deeply about things. I hate having girl problems when on test. I find it hard to blow things off. Eq, the first roid i did, does cause a certain type of anxiety. I don't quite like dbol. Deca is ok for me. Winny makes me look really good but I feel unhealthy on it. I don't use high doses. But still I can differenciate the effects from each other.

So I am at the end of my taper, ending with winny tabs. Feel ok, actually looking forward to time off. I got clomid on hand, but I'm not sure if I should use it just yet. I'll wait it out a bit.

Also regarding the depression issue, I think it's how u look at the situation. I'm looking forward to feeling good and relaxed and not having a bloated, thick skinned face again.

[~salmon~]

Actually, I think that extended juicing has made me more anxious. Test makes me anxious and think very deeply about things. I hate having girl problems when on test. I find it hard to blow things off. Eq, the first roid i did, does cause a certain type of anxiety. I don't quite like dbol. Deca is ok for me. Winny makes me look really good but I feel unhealthy on it. I don't use high doses. But still I can differenciate the effects from each other.

So I am at the end of my taper, ending with winny tabs. Feel ok, actually looking forward to time off. I got clomid on hand, but I'm not sure if I should use it just yet. I'll wait it out a bit.

Also regarding the depression issue, I think it's how u look at the situation. I'm looking forward to feeling good and relaxed and not having a bloated, thick skinned face again.

HCG..........

[cswol]

to be honest if youve been on the juice without coming off for over a year, you definitely have distorted hormones and levels that are going to be way out of whack when you come off.  If you want some real advice you can pm me, I can tell you that not one person can claim what problems you will experience, due to the fact that one persons experience and body is totally different from yours.  A guy juicing for only 3 months could have horrible effects, and a guy on for 8 months not near as many problems, or vice versa.  All I can say is that you have made a mistake in taking gear for that long of time without a break.  I can also say that in order to get your body back to its natural state it could take up to a year for your body to feel like it should naturally.  Pm me if you would like information and what to really expect.