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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #75 on: May 26, 2007, 10:55:25 AM »
agreed.  Arnold is a public figure and anyone can hang his picture anywhere.

Sure, but in terms of ownership there's plenty that could be explored.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #76 on: May 26, 2007, 11:45:56 AM »
It's a very sad developement.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #77 on: May 26, 2007, 11:52:22 AM »
yeah well with more and more golds getting busted for serious amounts of steriods distribution he dont need his name attached to that crap, bev francis is a true fucking idiot if anyone follows it youd know the evidence is sick (oh wait rick collins schmuck will help them) some will do serious time here especially since they claim a death and several serious health problems where a result of crap that they sold.


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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #78 on: May 26, 2007, 11:59:50 AM »
agreed.  Arnold is a public figure and anyone can hang his picture anywhere.

Exactly. Gold's owners are making the calls, not Arnold.

I might go by later today and say good-bye to an old friend.
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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #79 on: May 26, 2007, 12:05:32 PM »
Another health center franchise rising!

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #80 on: May 26, 2007, 06:27:07 PM »
gold's corporate has been trying to run all hardcore lifters out for years, thats why no real mf's train there.  The golds management use to constantly accuse me of using roids, but what business of it was theirs, when 85% of the gym including women were using roids.......its a shame that such a great thing like the murals in the second room of lenda, arnold and lee haney are being painted over, those pics gave the place a sense of history, and what the venice bbing lifestyle was about......and for those who dont know, world gym in marina del rey is staying worlds gym, a current bber and another went in partnership and it is now under new rule, and will change alot..................mo re of a gym for bbing and such.....its sad to see venice golds destroying the history of bbing and arnold, lee, and lenda...........peace... ..even if golds did reinstate my membership I would never want to train there, its a total shit gym now, nothing but skinny and out of shape people who know nothing about training.  Its a sad case, atleast I get to enjoy myself and can train down at muscle beach and never have to worry about waiting for equipment or waiting on people reading newspapers, drinking coffe, and ones who arent even working out.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #81 on: May 26, 2007, 09:17:47 PM »

Hey....I just wanted to update everyone...

Gold's Venice has now taken off ALL pictures of Arnold. When I started this thred they had only painted over the two murals that were in the 2nd room. Now all pictures are gone...and their wall of Olympia's looks pretty silly now that there is arnold's spot missing.

The front desk insists that this was done due to ARNOLD threating legal action if they were not taken down. No one can seem to tell me why Arnold gives a rat's ass about his pictures hanging up, but they do tell me he his slated to have a "meeting" with Gold's brass in about a weeks time.

Spoke to someone today that informed me that there has been a mandate from Gold's corperate to turn the MECCA into a regular Gold's and toss out the bodybuilding element completly. I will keep everyone posted on what winds up happening.

If this does wind up being a raw deal for us.....I feel that it will be a turning point for our subculture...we are starting to revert back to what is our, (arguably), rightfull status....outsiders. This isnt a bad thing per say...we just have to realize that we ARE a SUB-CULTURE and there is no hope of ever being in the mainstream, but just like any other sub-culture we need to adopt a reactionary mentality and band together. There is no reason why a "Hardcore" gym cant exist in the Venice area, (or in any large metropolitan area for that matter),....it just needs our support.

This could turn out to be a positive if it recreates the spirit of comadirie that existed "back in the day."

I would like to hear others ideas input on this.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #82 on: May 26, 2007, 09:30:11 PM »
I stated that golds has been doing this for years now..................... ....there are hardly any hardcore lifters left in the gym.......and I dont mean bbers..................t here isnt one pro who trains at golds or was there one that trained hard in the past 8 years that I trained there.  I stated that World gym in marina del rey is going to become more hardcore friendly, jerome ferguson is part owner now and is changing the gym rules from what they use to be, so guys like us real hardcore guys have a place to train.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #83 on: May 26, 2007, 09:36:52 PM »

Well....Worlds/Marina Del Ray closes its doors June 12th...despite Jerome's best efforts...so we are soon to be shit out of luck.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #84 on: May 26, 2007, 09:42:27 PM »
The front desk insists that this was done due to ARNOLD threating legal action if they were not taken down. No one can seem to tell me why Arnold gives a rat's ass about his pictures hanging up, but they do tell me he his slated to have a "meeting" with Gold's brass in about a weeks time.

maybe the people in the corporate office are hard core republicans and are upset with arnold's positions on health care and the environment.


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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #85 on: May 26, 2007, 11:05:21 PM »
Sure, but in terms of ownership there's plenty that could be explored.

I have a poster of Arnold and I own it.  He might have bought rights or whatever but I am pretty sure those are for the originals and negatives.  It s impossible for him to make everyone in the world not use his pics.  He would have to pay each person.  I want $50,000,000 for mine.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #86 on: May 27, 2007, 01:31:29 AM »
I do. But it's a misconception that Arnold has anything to do with this. It's Gold's Corporate (see the article a few posts back) calling the

If it turns out to be true Arnold does have something to do with htis it would be great for BB. 

 

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #87 on: May 27, 2007, 03:59:41 AM »
there must be more to this.

no way would arnold be so pretentious as to attempt to extinguish traces of his bodybuilding success.

he has acknowledged on numerous occasions that his bodybuilding success was a very important factor in his gaining acceptance and adulation from the public.

in fact, it would not be difficult to argue that, if not for bbing, he would not have had the success he did in movies or the resulting fame that led him to his current status.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #88 on: May 27, 2007, 05:06:48 AM »
Thats what I heard though through a promoter pretty sure the dude is on top his game too hopefully arnold is their I would love to see if he will be back

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #89 on: May 27, 2007, 06:04:48 AM »
There is no reason why a "Hardcore" gym cant exist in the Venice area, (or in any large metropolitan area for that matter),....it just needs our support.

This could turn out to be a positive if it recreates the spirit of comadirie that existed "back in the day."

I would like to hear others ideas input on this.

A savvy businessman and bodybuilding practitioner/fan might do well with a place which celebrated the history of bodybuilding and encouraged a serious atmosphere - a place which will be proud to "bear the torch" since Gold's is no longer willing.

Might even get a pretty good deal on some Gold's memorabilia and equipment if they're throwing it all away.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #90 on: May 27, 2007, 06:57:21 AM »
If anything, he needs to save the original Gold's/Venice on Pacific Avenue.  :(



Exactly.  Thats the original, hardcore golds.   And i think the building is for sale, the windows have been boarded over.

Arnold!!!!!!!!!  Save the pacific GOLDS!!!!!!!

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #91 on: May 27, 2007, 07:07:22 AM »
Flex is a great gym!  And you won't find too many guys who know more about training than Big Al.
You're not kidding!  The man is a walking encyclopedia.
I wish I had come to this gym when I first moved to Va Beach instead of wasting 2 1/2 years at Gold's.  I have made more progress over the last 6 months than in a normal year.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #92 on: May 27, 2007, 07:31:26 AM »
I hear from Reliable Sources that Golds will be closing within 2 years as their lease is running out and they RENT the space where the gym is and do not own the building, land or parking lot - thus the owner is raising the prices to modern pricing to come in line with 2008-2009 market prices and will re-adjust the rent of Golds making it where they cannot afford the space anymore. In addition, the corporate  Golds may be just out of it for never buying the property 20 years ago... Lesson here folks - always own the building/land where your business is - it is more valuable than the business...

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #93 on: May 27, 2007, 07:34:28 AM »
I hear from Reliable Sources that Golds will be closing within 2 years as their lease is running out and they RENT the space where the gym is and do not own the building, land or parking lot - thus the owner is raising the prices to modern pricing to come in line with 2008-2009 market prices and will re-adjust the rent of Golds making it where they cannot afford the space anymore. In addition, the corporate  Golds may be just out of it for never buying the property 20 years ago... Lesson here folks - always own the building/land where your business is - it is more valuable than the business...

not everyone got that kinda cash when they start, mcdonalds owns most of their locations

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #94 on: May 27, 2007, 09:00:40 AM »
not everyone got that kinda cash when they start, mcdonalds owns most of their locations

Arnold may have asked specifically to have his pictures removed if Gold's is turning it's back on BBing, out of respect, and because they were going to do it anyways they pulled them down. The reality is that they are looking for a new image to become more profitable, their old reputation won't help them get there.

As far as their lease goes, this just may be rumour. Most health clubs lease their buildings, they don't own them. My company takes out a 30 year lease, with a 10 ten year and 20 year renegotiate. That mean we sit down with the landlord and terms could change at those times, usually if everything is going well the relationship is left alone. But other fators play into this, the Gold's lease may be at this point, and if the deal was sruck a long time ago at a low $$ per square foot, the landlord may be looking to get things in line with normal market values.

How does Bob Chick feel about all this? I know he trains there? Bob, what's going on, and how do you feel?

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #95 on: May 27, 2007, 09:06:24 AM »
I stated that golds has been doing this for years now..................... ....there are hardly any hardcore lifters left in the gym.......and I dont mean bbers..................t here isnt one pro who trains at golds or was there one that trained hard in the past 8 years that I trained there.  I stated that World gym in marina del rey is going to become more hardcore friendly, jerome ferguson is part owner now and is changing the gym rules from what they use to be, so guys like us real hardcore guys have a place to train.

Several pros still train there- most notably is Melvin Anthony. I also saw Cutler there last week.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #96 on: May 27, 2007, 09:11:45 AM »
Are they even taking down the "Mr. Olympia Wall"?

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #97 on: May 27, 2007, 09:22:26 AM »
Are they even taking down the "Mr. Olympia Wall"?

I would say yes right after the Olympia they will. Jay or Ronnie will win, that way they won't have to add someone new, and then one day ... poof gonzo.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #98 on: May 27, 2007, 09:43:26 AM »
I would say yes right after the Olympia they will. Jay or Ronnie will win, that way they won't have to add someone new, and then one day ... poof gonzo.

Poor Jay. He just had his put up.  :-[

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #99 on: May 27, 2007, 11:17:25 AM »

gone are the likes of Don Ross, and other gym rats / characters that made it a colorful place in the 80s 90s

 can you say  C O R P O R A T E