Author Topic: Aikido fighters in MMA (Read 4288 times)

jbflift · « **on:** June 01, 2007, 08:23:37 PM »

Are there any Aikido fighters in MMA? I know they will have to study other arts but Aikido was their primary martial art. I have not seen any, just curious?

Bluto · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2007, 02:06:02 AM »

not that i know of. they wouldnt get far with aikido in the cage

OKMike · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2007, 03:24:04 AM »

not that I have seen or heard of

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2007, 06:53:20 AM »

This is what would happen to Fedor and Couture if they ever tried to two-on-one this guy

Logan32 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2007, 09:57:09 AM »

Aikido is extremely hard to translate to combat arts. It is mostly defensive, no strikes really, a lot of small joint manipulation and the fact that it takes a very long time to become proficient in it. Although I always thought if someone could bring some of the aikido footwork it may be interetsing (IMHO).

americanbulldog · « **Reply #5 on:** June 02, 2007, 11:30:33 AM »

Jason De Lucia claimed to be an Aikido fighter, but he also claimed to be a five animal guy as well. He fought in Pancrase.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #6 on:** June 02, 2007, 02:38:44 PM »

Back in the early days, when Renzo just opened the academy, there were a lot of guys with really strong backgrounds in other martial arts who came in to see what BJJ was all about. The akido guys had it the worst. One guy with whom I eventually became friends was a 3rd degree blackbelt in akido, but was getting owned on the mat by guys like me who, at the time, had only been training BJJ for a few months.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #7 on:** June 02, 2007, 02:47:39 PM »

Quote from: Thin Lizzy on June 02, 2007, 02:38:44 PM

Back in the early days, when Renzo just opened the academy, there were a lot of guys with really strong backgrounds in other martial arts who came in to see what BJJ was all about. The akido guys had it the worst. One guy with whom I eventually became friends was a 3rd degree blackbelt in akido, but was getting owned on the mat by guys like me who, at the time, had only been training BJJ for a few months.

What? You mean he wasn't able to pull of a nikyo on you? Are you telling me my parents wasted money sending me to class?

Bluto · « **Reply #8 on:** June 02, 2007, 02:49:04 PM »

steven seagal would've kicked ass in ufc but he was busy with more important things

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #9 on:** June 02, 2007, 09:57:08 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on June 02, 2007, 02:47:39 PM

What? You mean he wasn't able to pull of a nikyo on you? Are you telling me my parents wasted money sending me to class?

LOL

He was too busy defending the rear naked.

He actually knew a lot of cool joint manipulation stuff that could conceivably be used in self-defense situations, but, on the ground he was clueless.

With regard to wristlocks, I've seen them used in gi-tourneys. Guys with collar grips get their wrists bent back and have to tap. Edwardo Telles shows a wristlock sub in his Turtle Guard Series (I highly recommend it, especially for 30-and-older guys). Also, when I used to take privates w/ Shawn Williams, he would put them on me from the guard. I wouldn't tap, but I was forced to defend, leaving myself open for something else.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #10 on:** June 03, 2007, 12:07:24 AM »

Quote from: Thin Lizzy on June 02, 2007, 09:57:08 PM

LOL

He was too busy defending the rear naked.

He actually knew a lot of cool joint manipulation stuff that could conceivably be used in self-defense situations, but, on the ground he was clueless.

With regard to wristlocks, I've seen them used in gi-tourneys. Guys with collar grips get their wrists bent back and have to tap. Edwardo Telles shows a wristlock sub in his Turtle Guard Series (I highly recommend it, especially for 30-and-older guys). Also, when I used to take privates w/ Shawn Williams, he would put them on me from the guard. I wouldn't tap, but I was forced to defend, leaving myself open for something else.

Fortunately for me, I was able to convince them to enroll me in judo later on. I think they wanted cheap child care during my elementary/middle school days.

rccs · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2007, 06:12:35 AM »

Quote from: jbflift on June 01, 2007, 08:23:37 PM

Are there any Aikido fighters in MMA? I know they will have to study other arts but Aikido was their primary martial art. I have not seen any, just curious?

Aikido is not functional in an MMA fight, plain and simple...

realkarateblackbelt · « **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2007, 07:49:41 AM »

Aikido won't work, becuase, as someone mentioned, it's defensive. Gung Fu guys have the same problem. They are good at blocking, but block enough and you're bound to get hit.
Aikido is good for diverting an attack and running.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2007, 10:27:47 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on June 03, 2007, 12:07:24 AM

Fortunately for me, I was able to convince them to enroll me in judo later on.

I'll bet the Judo came in handy when you started BJJ. When I started, I had a boxing and wrestling background (not very high level at either).

It took me awhile to learn the grips and grip breaks.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #14 on:** June 04, 2007, 12:29:41 AM »

Quote from: Thin Lizzy on June 03, 2007, 10:27:47 PM

I'll bet the Judo came in handy when you started BJJ. When I started, I had a boxing and wrestling background (not very high level at either).

It took me awhile to learn the grips and grip breaks.

We are going to have Mike Swain in town to do a judo seminar for our school. He is in town visitng another olympian, Kevin Asano, who won silver in 1988. Judo and Jits are a perfect blend. Great counter to wrestlers, especially with the gi.

Special Ed · « **Reply #15 on:** June 07, 2007, 03:28:39 PM »

Quote from: Thin Lizzy on June 02, 2007, 02:38:44 PM

Back in the early days, when Renzo just opened the academy, there were a lot of guys with really strong backgrounds in other martial arts who came in to see what BJJ was all about. The akido guys had it the worst. One guy with whom I eventually became friends was a 3rd degree blackbelt in akido, but was getting owned on the mat by guys like me who, at the time, had only been training BJJ for a few months.

Thin Lizard,

When did you train there? At the 27th street gym? I was there 1996-1997.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #16 on:** June 08, 2007, 10:06:01 PM »

Quote from: Special Ed on June 07, 2007, 03:28:39 PM

Thin Lizard,

When did you train there? At the 27th street gym? I was there 1996-1997.

I started in 1996, too. At the time Matt Serra had only been doing bjj for a year, training with Craig Kukuk, who, in another case of getbig six degrees, is a childhood friend of Onlyme.

onlyme · « **Reply #17 on:** June 09, 2007, 12:46:29 AM »

Quote from: Thin Lizzy on June 08, 2007, 10:06:01 PM

I started in 1996, too. At the time Matt Serra had only been doing bjj for a year, training with Craig Kukuk, who, in another case of getbig six degrees, is a childhood friend of Onlyme.

Thats cool Thin

SinCitysmallGUY · « **Reply #18 on:** June 10, 2007, 05:30:49 PM »

Quote from: Thin Lizzy on June 08, 2007, 10:06:01 PM

I started in 1996, too. At the time Matt Serra had only been doing bjj for a year, training with Craig Kukuk, who, in another case of getbig six degrees, is a childhood friend of Onlyme.

I start rolling with Tom Suppnet up here in Boise. He is Craig's top student or something... Craig actually lives up here in Boise now...... Fucking small world

monstercalves · « **Reply #19 on:** June 12, 2007, 01:42:36 AM »

aikido is not a sport, you will never find a serious budoka in the ring/cage...

people could die quickly

americanbulldog · « **Reply #20 on:** June 12, 2007, 01:53:35 PM »

Quote from: monstercalves on June 12, 2007, 01:42:36 AM

aikido is not a sport, you will never find a serious budoka in the ring/cage...

people could die quickly

MMA versus Aikido. Funny stuff.

jbflift · « **Reply #21 on:** June 13, 2007, 06:28:52 PM »

My 4 year son can defend himself better than that guy. That "master" could not believe he got hit in the mouth. That is an embarasment to Aikido. He should be ashamed of himself for even representing Aikido. He should go back to yoga or Tai Chi. A COMPLETE JOKE!

CARTEL · « **Reply #22 on:** June 13, 2007, 06:36:40 PM »

I took Aikido a few times way back when...

It was hilarious

187knny · « **Reply #23 on:** June 13, 2007, 07:03:42 PM »

Aikido is for aging hippies...they don't stand a chance against jujitu

freespirit · « **Reply #24 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:35:19 AM »

Quote from: CARTEL on June 13, 2007, 06:36:40 PM

I took Aikido a few times way back when...

It was hilarious

Yeah me to. First you had do bow to the "founding father" on a picture.