agian thats not what the argument is about.
the argument merely states that DNA conveys information, which can only come from intelligence.
snowflakes, beaches etc are not templates, and convey no information about the structures. looking at how two mols of hydrogen bond to oxygen does not convey the information contained in the snowflake. there is no encoding and deconding system.
the argument is based on information theory, and has nothing to do with physics. i see what your saying but i cant argue what your saying because the link i posted doesnt even mention it. read the thread if you want, many raised objections, many failed.
The information contained in the DNA was not programmed by a conscious mind, but by a blind process that merely adapts to the physical world. You can infer that, if there is a code, it is the one that determines how particles interrelate to form physical reality and not DNA.
And who said that two atoms of hydrogen and one of oxygen do not convey the information about the snowflake? Of course it does! The "code", in this case, is that two atoms of hydrogen and one of oxygen will always form the molecule of water(physical pnenom), and that the aggregation of sufficient quantities of these molecules(physical phenom) under the stress of a certain temperature(physical phenom), will result in the formation of the snowflake. So physics has an exact "code" for how to make a snowflake, and this code is merely a derivation from the much smpler code about how sub-atomic particles interact to form atoms, and how these aggregate to form molecules. Ergo, the information contained in the DNA was programmed by proxy ultimately by partcles.
I am not denying that the DNA is a code, only that this code is programmed by reality, which is ultimately programmed by the interaction of particles, and that the interaction of these particles give rise to the law of cause and effect that derives everything else. Now, the interaction of a certain particle with another gives rise to an effect which is predictable and repeatable, but not explainable. Why the protons and neutrons are the nucleus of an atom and the electrons surround it, and not the other way around, is not known. Is it even possible to create atoms that creates physical realities if you switch that arrangement? Unknown. I think that the reason why the problem of the first cause is unsolvable is because causality is arbitrary. If the most fundamental tissue that creates reality - be it quarks, branes, or whatever - creates everything else, then it doesen't need have a cause. Why? Because it is the cause that creates everything else. If something must have caused it, then it is not the ultimate cause and we need to surch further.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
