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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2007, 08:10:29 PM »
Zack you are not an athlete or a power lifter.  You are a fat ass, who does 4 days a week in the gym.

You don`t need to eat like you are Lance Armstrong.  Put down the food.  Hope this helps.

inability to defend your own dumb ass and resorting to personal attacks meltdown.

thanks for playing.  :D

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2007, 08:11:19 PM »
Good link.  What's your opinion of bodybuilding.com, Matt?

Excellent question!!  I LOVE BODYBUILDING.COM!!

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TA - why are you debating with intellectual heavyweights like Zach?  The guy really knows his shit.

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #77 on: June 11, 2007, 08:13:39 PM »
Evaluation of protein requirements for trained strength athletes

M. A. Tarnopolsky, S. A. Atkinson, J. D. MacDougall, A. Chesley, S. Phillips and H. P. Schwarcz
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Leucine kinetic and nitrogen balance (NBAL) methods were used to determine the dietary protein requirements of strength athletes (SA) compared with sedentary subjects (S). Individual subjects were randomly assigned to one of three protein intakes: low protein (LP) = 0.86 g protein.kg-1.day-1, moderate protein (MP) = 1.40 g protein.kg-1.day-1, or high protein (HP) = 2.40 g protein.kg-1.day-1 for 13 days for each dietary treatment. NBAL was measured and whole body protein synthesis (WBPS) and leucine oxidation were determined from L-[1-13C]leucine turnover. NBAL data were used to determine that the protein intake for zero NBAL for S was 0.69 g.kg-1.day-1 and for SA was 1.41 g.kg-1.day-1. A suggested recommended intake for S was 0.89 g.kg-1.day-1 and for SA was 1.76 g.kg-1.day-1. For SA, the LP diet did not provide adequate protein and resulted in an accommodated state (decreased WBPS vs. MP and HP), and the MP diet resulted in a state of adaptation [increase in WBPS (vs. LP) and no change in leucine oxidation (vs. LP)]. The HP diet did not result in increased WBPS compared with the MP diet, but leucine oxidation did increase significantly, indicating a nutrient overload. For S the LP diet provided adequate protein, and increasing protein intake did not increase WBPS. On the HP diet leucine oxidation increased for S. These results indicated that the MP and HP diets were nutrient overloads for S. There were no effects of varying protein intake on indexes of lean body mass (creatinine excretion, body density) for either group. In summary, protein requirements for athletes performing strength training are greater than for sedentary individuals and are above current Canadian and US recommended daily protein intake requirements for young healthy males.


do i need to keep doing this? i think the results are obvious.

all athletes, including strength training athletes of which "bodybuilding" is a part, need more protein than sedentary individuals. over 2g/kg of protein is unnecessary, which would be in excess of 200g per day for most of us. regardless, the RDA guidelines are far, far too low for anyone participating in an athletic activity.

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #78 on: June 11, 2007, 08:13:55 PM »
Matt how many more diets will you quit early?  8-9?

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #79 on: June 11, 2007, 08:14:18 PM »
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http://www.extension.iastate.edu/nutrition/sport/protein.html#intake

The recommended protein intake for the American population is 0.8 g/kg/day (~0.4 g/lb/day). However, athletes may have different needs depending on the duration and intensity of exercise, and frequency of training. Strength training athletes need about 1.4-1.8 g/kg/day (~0.6-0.8 g/lb/day) and endurance runners need about 1.2-1.4 g/kg/day (~0.5-0.6 g/lb/day) due to the stress on muscle fibers during exercise. In general, the recommended protein intake for athletes ranges from 1.0-1.8 g/kg/day (~0.4-0.8 g/lb/day) depending on the energy expenditure and demand of the exercise.
Lets take a 77 KG man. (170 lbs)

1.0-1.8 g/kg in Protein is about 77-110 grams of protein, this is the suggested amount for Strength athletes.

Compare that with the RDA and RDI based on age and weight and you will see it is nearly the same.

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #80 on: June 11, 2007, 08:16:44 PM »
Lets take a 77 KG man. (170 lbs)

1.0-1.8 g/kg in Protein is about 77-110 grams of protein, this is the suggested amount for Strength athletes.

Compare that with the RDA and RDI based on age and weight and you will see it is nearly the same.


what is recommended for homosexuals who still have 75lbs of fat to lose?

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #81 on: June 11, 2007, 08:17:22 PM »
Matt how many more diets will you quit early?  8-9?
He doesn`t even read his own studies. hahah They all recommend within about 10-20 grams of the RDI,RDA.

I bet I burn 7 times the amount that fat Zach does, just running with my greyhound and I eat 7 times less and look over 7 times better.

Bast, could you imagine never being able to take your shirt off or having to swim in a pool with a shirt on?

hahahah Mister Magoodiopose has owned himself.

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #82 on: June 11, 2007, 08:18:19 PM »
what is recommended for homosexuals who still have 75lbs of fat to lose?

haha maybe he needs more protein to heal the tears in his rectum?

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #83 on: June 11, 2007, 08:18:30 PM »
Lets take a 77 KG man. (170 lbs)

1.0-1.8 g/kg in Protein is about 77-110 grams of protein, this is the suggested amount for Strength athletes.

Compare that with the RDA and RDI based on age and weight and you will see it is nearly the same.


RDA is 0.8g/kg, which would be 61.6, which is between 15g and 48g under. or, to make it percentage, a difference of 24-78%.

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #84 on: June 11, 2007, 08:19:42 PM »
and now that you two have resorted to the tired, tired old attacks... that means you have lost the ability to rationally defend yourselves and i am the victor. ;D

good day gentleman.  :)

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #85 on: June 11, 2007, 08:19:59 PM »
RDA is 0.8g/kg, which would be 61.6, which is between 15g and 48g under. or, to make it percentage, a difference of 24-78%.

You need to eat less than the RDA. You are beyond obese.  

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #86 on: June 11, 2007, 08:20:09 PM »
haha maybe he needs more protein to heal the tears in his rectum?

That makes clear sense.

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #87 on: June 11, 2007, 08:20:41 PM »
TA, why are you delusional

you said many times that you made the best gains while being a fatass

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #88 on: June 11, 2007, 08:22:00 PM »
and now that you two have resorted to the tired, tired old attacks... that means you have lost the ability to rationally defend yourselves and i am the victor. ;D

good day gentleman.  :)
You aren`t the victor.  You are still obese.  Face it, you lost "The War on Obesity".  

Answer me this Stinko Magoo,  does rectal bleeding deplete the body of valuable amino acids?

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #89 on: June 11, 2007, 08:23:32 PM »
TA, why are you delusional

you said many times that you made the best gains while being a fatass

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I didn`t make any gains other than about 2-3 lbs of muscle a year.  It was all worthless.  It is easy to think you are making gains as you see the scale and the weight you lift go up, but that in no way means you are gaining muscle.

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #90 on: June 11, 2007, 08:24:25 PM »
What happens is, during Zach's weekend escapades, the penis friction inside Zach's buttocks causes hemoglobin loss which results in depletion of the luecine and glutamine amino acids.   A power bottom of Zach's quality who can take a 9 inch + penis for up to 4 hours at a time has very demanding protein requirements.

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #91 on: June 11, 2007, 08:26:10 PM »
I like TA, I just get the feeling he's behind his computer screen laughing right now knowing he played someone else for a sucker.  :-\

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #92 on: June 11, 2007, 08:27:15 PM »
What happens is, during Zach's weekend escapades, the penis friction inside Zach's buttocks causes hemoglobin loss which results in depletion of the luecine and glutamine amino acids.   A power bottom of Zach's quality who can take a 9 inch + penis for up to 4 hours at a time has very demanding protein requirements.

I guess a sexually active, gay male may need more protein due to the constant butt-thrusting and moaning.  He probably has a protein shake beside his bed during his Anal games, provided, Bruce, his powerlifting spotter/boyfriend, does not knock it over when they rough-house.

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #93 on: June 11, 2007, 08:31:12 PM »
I guess a sexually active, gay male may need more protein due to the constant butt-thrusting and moaning.  He probably has a protein shake beside his bed during his Anal games, provided, Bruce, his powerlifting spotter/boyfriend, does not knock it over when they rough-house.

Is this your way of saying that Zach drinks a "Dorian Yates Approved Pro Peptide" post glutes workout protein shake to offset the taste of fresh sperm in his mouth?
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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #94 on: June 11, 2007, 08:38:48 PM »
Why do you call people gay when you're in a picture with a crossdresser at some gay sex party?

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #95 on: June 11, 2007, 10:31:48 PM »
This thread is too funny.......it's like the blind leading the blind when it comes to the training and nutrition of athletes...LOL.......... Adam seems to think he he's an expert on athletes nutrition by way of google............and when I mean athletes I mean REAL athletes, not bodybuilders.

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #96 on: June 11, 2007, 11:26:07 PM »
what is recommended for homosexuals who still have 75lbs of fat to lose?

Why are you bringing homosexuality into a discussion about nutrition Bast?

Why Bast?

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #97 on: June 11, 2007, 11:29:59 PM »
What happens is, during Zach's weekend escapades, the penis friction inside Zach's buttocks causes hemoglobin loss which results in depletion of the luecine and glutamine amino acids.   A power bottom of Zach's quality who can take a 9 inch + penis for up to 4 hours at a time has very demanding protein requirements.


I guess a sexually active, gay male may need more protein due to the constant butt-thrusting and moaning.  He probably has a protein shake beside his bed during his Anal games, provided, Bruce, his powerlifting spotter/boyfriend, does not knock it over when they rough-house.

Bast, Abeles...

Guys, guys... you two seem very knowledgeable with gay sex terms.

Why is that?

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #98 on: June 11, 2007, 11:32:08 PM »
Bast, Abeles...

Guys, guys... you two seem very knowledgeable with gay sex terms.

Why is that?

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Re: Disaster after following the TA principles.
« Reply #99 on: June 11, 2007, 11:40:08 PM »
I guess a sexually active, gay male may need more protein due to the constant butt-thrusting and moaning.  He probably has a protein shake beside his bed during his Anal games, provided, Bruce, his powerlifting spotter/boyfriend, does not knock it over when they rough-house.

Are you telling us you're currently not sexually active?  ???

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