Disaster after following the TA principles.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

LMAO you are delusional

the only way MAtt wuold be less than 150 lbs is if you wuold cut one of his legs off

What? 150 pounds is actually pretty big at his height. Look at whateva.

[shiftedShapes]

What? 150 pounds is actually pretty big at his height. Look at whateva.

these people are all living a lie. overeating their way to mid-life heart attacks all the while convinced that they are building muscle.

what were whateva's stats in the last mr. getbig?

[The_Leafy_Bug]

these people are all living a lie. overeating their way to mid-life heart attacks all the while convinced that they are building muscle.

what were whateva's stats in the last mr. getbig?

5'9 150 i believe.... or he could have been 160. Regardless he wasn't even all the way leaned out if im not mistaken.

[The Squadfather]

the delts are looking large as usual Matt, to be honest with you it doesn't look like the Adonis diet hurt you too much, i think you're like a lot of guys including me in that you are paranoid about "losing size", doesn't look like you lost anything.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

the delts are looking large as usual Matt, to be honest with you it doesn't look like the Adonis diet hurt you too much, i think you're like a lot of guys including me in that you are paranoid about "losing size", doesn't look like you lost anything.

He didn't lose an ounce. Eating like you want is almost like a pendelum for me atleast. Some weeks im eating ice cream and cake and others im dieting with both and some im all "clean".

[Matt C]

I'll make more detailed comments later but I am using SIZEON and SuperPump250 right now and I'll update how that goes for me.

[The Squadfather]

I'll make more detailed comments later but I am using SIZEON and SuperPump250 right now and I'll update how that goes for me.

Gaspari's shit is expensive, do you think it's worth the money?

[Bast000]

Gaspari's shit is expensive, do you think it's worth the money?

Matt is dumber than a second coat of paint. 

[The_Leafy_Bug]

I'll make more detailed comments later but I am using SIZEON and SuperPump250 right now and I'll update how that goes for me.

Man matt.... sizeone, superpump, gangstah test, whatever this crap is that you use isn't going to make you a 200 pound beast. You are 5'9 so being realistic you natural potential would be maxed out at around 160 if you were to lean out all the way.

[Stavios]

What? 150 pounds is actually pretty big at his height. Look at whateva.

I tought whateva was shorter

[The_Leafy_Bug]

I tought whateva was shorter

nahh he is 5'9. Brian whitaker is also 5'10, probably more like 5'9 and 160 and he looks pretty good here.

[Stavios]

nahh he is 5'9. Brian whitaker is also 5'10, probably more like 5'9 and 160 and he looks pretty good here.

wow you are right he looks awesome

[garraeth]

Gaspari's shit is expensive, do you think it's worth the money?

It's got dbol in it...didn't ya know???

[The_Leafy_Bug]

wow you are right he looks awesome

Indeed... alot of people don't realize that 160 can be big too. He may look tiny in clothes but he will be shredded with out a shirt. It's not all about looking big in clothes and being strong. When we say that someone who is natural would be 150 lean it's not a bad thing. Hell, if i were to go all the way down id be 145 and im 5'11.

[Bast000]

Indeed... alot of people don't realize that 160 can be big too. He may look tiny in clothes but he will be shredded with out a shirt. It's not all about looking big in clothes and being strong. When we say that someone who is natural would be 150 lean it's not a bad thing. Hell, if i were to go all the way down id be 145 and im 5'11.

Yea I've seen that dude on another forum.  He actually dieted on 2700 calories or so, which I didn't understand.  He must have done a lot of cardio?

[The Squadfather]

that dude is SHREDDED.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Yea I've seen that dude on another forum.  He actually dieted on 2700 calories or so, which I didn't understand.  He must have done a lot of cardio?

Wow hahahah that is pretty insane. He probably used some ephedra (don't know if thats allowed in the OCB) amd did cardio on top of it. JRod however does absolutly no cardio... solid weights and diet. I'd be intrested to see what he cuts on. I know he lurks on this forum sometimes.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Steroids are something that if you are not careful with can really destroy your physique. Alot of guys do infact look better natural then they do juiced.

[danielson]

Steroids are something that if you are not careful with can really destroy your physique. Alot of guys do infact look better natural then they do juiced.

I think MOST guys look better natural actually.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

I think MOST guys look better natural actually.

Indeed, It is easier to throw off your proportions with drugs since muscle grows quicker. That paired with water retention and making it harder to get leaner makes it difficult to retain aesthetics.

[~flower~]

You need to use the Spork of the Gods when following the Adonis Principles.


         

[Krankenstein]

Indeed, It is easier to throw off your proportions with drugs since muscle grows quicker. That paired with water retention and making it harder to get leaner makes it difficult to retain aesthetics.

So Bug.....what is your daily average intake?

[Matt C]

Matt is dumber than a second coat of paint. 

I guess that's a fair statement to make considering I followed TA's principles for two months, but there isn't a single member on this board who considers me to be less intelligent than you, so what does that say about yourself? 

[affy]

Wow hahahah that is pretty insane. He probably used some ephedra (don't know if thats allowed in the OCB) amd did cardio on top of it. JRod however does absolutly no cardio... solid weights and diet. I'd be intrested to see what he cuts on. I know he lurks on this forum sometimes.

i remember her posted his diet once...it was almost all vegitarian

i know he ate eggs almost 6 times a day...he used to take 4 shakes, and he said sometimes he'd replace an egg meal with tuna.  ill try and look for his diet

[affy]

heres jrods diet

These are the supplements I took while dieting and take now that its offseason:
creatine, glutamine, whey protein powder, dextrose, caffeine (i get this from either coffee or an energy supplement.  I take caffeine for energy purposes, not so much for losing fat).

Here's what my basic diet was like getting ready for the Team Universe:

Meal#1 - Breakfast:  Rice cakes or cream of wheat and Protein powder or egg whites.
(i workout 1.5-2 hours after breakfast)
pre workout shake(while warming up): dextrose and protein powder (with creatine and glutamine)
post workout shake (immediately after training): dextrose and protein powder (with creatine and glutamine)
25 min post workout: dextrose and protein powder
Meal#2 - 1 hour post workout: rice cakes and egg whites
Meal#3 - 2.5 hours post workout: rice cakes and egg whites
Meals#4-7-every 2 hours after meal3:  oatmeal or brocolli and protein powder or egg whites (or canned tuna a once in a while).

     The difference in my diet in week 8, 7, 5, 3, or whatever, was the amount of calories.  I did not eat anything different, just less as the weeks went by.  In reducing calories, i started by reducing from out to in (meaning i reduced calories near workout time last, starting by reducing calories from my later meals, then breakfast, then post workout meals, then post workout shakes very little).

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=101414.msg1592903#msg1592903

he goes on to say he never cheats